What is it about her?

Not that it matters at this point, but what is it about Hillary Clinton that makes my husband see red everytime he hears her voice? I mean, obviously I'm not a supporter (see avatar), but I've never yelled at my TV screen when she's on.

I suggested this afternoon that maybe he needs to take a break from the news and from politics for a little while. At least until the primary is over. She was on and talking about something and he started muttering angrily then yelled out "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, YOU GOOFY B*TCH?"

Ok he never calls women that. He seriously doesn't. A vein was throbbing in his forehead. He's no right-winger (that's grounds for divorce in this house, hee). But there's something about her that just sets his teeth on edge. Always has, but for obvious reasons it's super bad right now. I'm going to start just changing the channel really quickly if she comes on from now on.

Then he's in a bad mood for a while after hearing her. We didn't even watch the debate the other night--I knew he'd just yell at the TV everytime she spoke and then eventually have to leave the room so as not to hear her anymore.

will not comment on your husband.

you don't like their gender or their race. My husband loves and respects tons of women. This one, however, just seems to be like nails on a chalkboard to him and I keep wondering what it is that provokes such a visceral reaction in him. (It's no use asking him, he just starts cussing because it's about HER.)

but if he "loves and respects tons of women", but screams sexist slurs at Senator Clinton on TV, perhaps he isn't really quite as enlightened as you think. THIS woman is looking to become PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! Many, many men, and some women, too, just don't think a woman is capable of that sort of thing...too bitchy, ya know? As Senator Obama once said, "when she gets upset, out come the claws".

Like I said, I don't know you or your husband, but I have been surprised by some people I never imagined as sexits who do feel that way.

Am I a sexist?

Could we add 'sexits' to the freeper lexicon?
I'm sorry, but it's just TOO good.
'Sexits morans head for exits.'
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doesn't like their race or gender." My husband doesn't care one way or another about Obama.He will vote for the Democratic Nominee no matter who it is.

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to anyone or thing I don't want to see. I turn off Bush,FOX NEWS , Hannity ,O'Reilly and anything Obama . It is just a matter of choice.

It is fear and the indoctrination by the corporate run media in this country that has waged war on both Clinton's over the past 16 years that causes such outbursts, and more directly, it is the deep-seated cultural belief that a woman shouldn't be president of this country. You have all been brainwashed. You cannot help yourselves, but I suggest you try harder, because if Hillary Clinton isn't the nominee, we will again hand this country over to the same kind of dangerous idiots that have brought us to the brink of disaster by their self-serving actions over the past 7+ years. It is sexism, and worse, it's misogyny that causes these reactions, from both men AND women, as women often succumb to self-loathing. Of course, all here were liking her and supporting her and her husband, until it looked as if she might actually become the first woman to be elected president, then the knives came out for her. Obama is not a completely white man as all presidents up until now have been, but he is still a man, and after all, he is only half black, so he's only half different than all previous presidents. I fear this country's misogyny much worse than I fear the racism, as it runs so much deeper. Women of any race cannot play major league football, baseball, hockey, basketball, (unless it's with other women), serve in combat positions in the military that allow career officers to advance, I could go on and on with the limitations society has placed on ALL women that men of any race don't face. In my mind, overcoming this deeply cultural and religious prejudice against women is infinitely more important than making an inexperienced man of mixed racial heritage president. I have five daughters and stepdaughters, and their generation is desperately in need of this woman as a beacon of hope and inspiration. They need to see that women aren't objects to be judged only by their looks and sexuality. As many advances as women have made, we still fight all the time for our rightful place in this society and the one thing that would advance the battle tremendously, and make no mistake it is a battle, would be to have a woman, this woman, elected president, not in 4 or 8 or 12 or 16 years from now, but THIS YEAR. I want the girls growing up today to know that they don't have to buy into this society's idea that they are sexual beings first, and human beings second. President Hillary Rodham Clinton can do that, not to mention that she is the only PERSON who can turn things around here in this country, and make it a nation we can all once again be proud of.

Are you serious? First let's ignore the fact that I disagree with that point alone. There are millions and millions of people in this country surely she is not the ONLY one.
You think anyone that does not support HRC is brainwashed and sexist? Give me a break. Your not suppose to use your sex nor race to get ahead. As a woman I take offense to your statements. I have a brain and I can think for myself and that is exactly what each woman and man should do in this race. If you vote for her simply because she is a woman, we would be better off if you did not vote at all. What happens to the issues? What happens to me deciding for myself whom I agree with on the issues and not decide my vote on whether she buys tampons.

And if you are, how did you get access to a computer? Plus you need to reread what I wrote. At any rate, what I should have said was that she is the only CANDIDATE running who can do the job. Obama isn't capable yet and it goes without saying what will happen if Senator McMaverick Straight-Talk is actually elected. I have supported her and worked for her and donated money to her campaign and waited hours to see her because I think she is the best candidate, end of story. And by the way, Hillary is 60 years old, so I highly doubt she is buying feminine hygiene products anymore, Mrs. Warren Jeffs #37. I don't care if you are a woman, you are a self-loathing one. The tampon comment confirms it.

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Who is playing the same old political game which most of us are tired of. Gender has absolutely nothing to do with it.

but I do turn the sound off on the tv when she's on.

To me, her voice is the sound of defeat in Nov.

And I was really surprised when my husband did. It's out of character for him.

they are sexist or have issues? Jesus H. Christ.

LOL. Yeah, ok.

because i don't like her.

because i cannot stand her.

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If you don't like her your sexist.

Jesus H. Christ. It's as good a theory as any.

The reasons people hate her are precisely the reasons I like her, and why I think she will be a strong president.

Also the reasons why I think Obama is a popular candidate, but will not be a successful president.

People have called him the first black Kennedy. Personally, I'm afraid he might be the first black Carter; too nice to be a good president.

I mute the TV for three faces -- Bush, McCain and Hillary Clinton. And I've called her a few unkind things myself.
I'm a feminist and female -- I just can't bear to look at her anymore. She's such an obvious right-wing shill to me
now that even seeing her is painful. And I used to respect her enormously.

Maybe he's just immature. But I'm sure if you run real fast and change the channel, you can avoid future temper tantrums. That always worked with my toddlers.

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That you considered this worthy of discussion outside your home?

The OP's comments are worthy of discussion. All you seem to supply are nonsequiturs.

from all three days here?

I am asking the OP why she feels it necessary to post this.

What does her husband's seemingly imbalanced and over the top reaction to Hillary Clinton offer the dialogue here in GD:P?

What am I supposed to gather from this?

Is the vein throbbing in his head some type of predictive oracle of who would make a better President?

If you read my info, you'd know that I've been here a little bit longer than three days. But don't let the truth bother you.

I'm actually quite Happy-go -lucky

But even he is saying "She has got to get real." I don't go there. I voted for HRC in our primary in Feb. I'm happy to have Obama as my candidate, tho, and I will work for him. I hate what is happening in our party and here on DU between the two sides and I just want it to stop.

Your husband is a typical Obama supporter. what do you expect? He'll never get over his anger because he won't listen to anything she says. Kind of reminds me of George bush* thinking...only listen to those that support you.
Not too intelligent if you ask me...but you didn't...but you posted this subtle innocent post. Go take a shower along with your husband...but don't peek...you might be disappointed!

we did "early voting". there was a debate between hillary and obama after that and my husband said he liked hillary too -- maybe he should have voted for her. i had similar feelings, but as i said in an earlier post after she endorsed McCain 5 times, i freaked. i feel like she would rather see McCain as president. i think she hurt and continues to hurt the party.

You have been listening to too many people on DU. They are known for exaggeration and lies. They interpret what they think Hillary says and put their own spin on it and then proclaim it as truth. Then the other Obama supporters just lap it up and repeat it till it's fact. Please go back and red what she said. She just stated the facts...undeniable truth...no spin and O supporters didn't like it so they lied about what she said.

and doesn't want you interrupting him when he's having sexual fantasies when she's on the TV.

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what is it about him?

i do the same thing. ever since hillary endorsed McCain 5 times, i can't stand the sight of her or her voice. my husband is not as political as i am, but he's pissed at her too.

that being said, if she is the nominee, i will vote for her. she's better than McCain.

Tracy on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rleUPHX8yfM

However, I think Tracy Flick was a bit less annoying.

I don't often email links but a few people need to see that, LOL! She IS Tracy Flick!

because she all but tried to bite off his nuts. The sanctimonious self-righteousness was nauseating, for example when she rolled out her lace-mill-worker-grandfather line, no doubt a fib of one kind or other. Picked up that vibe watching a clip.

Self-righteousness. After I read your post I asked him if THAT was it. Yep. That's it.

she's been using that one a lot lately.

And on, and on. WTF, she thinks that kind of whining is remotely presidential? :wtf:

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for identifying your own problem so candidly.

and not her biggest by a long shot. Anyway you're welcome. :)

and a few aren't really worth responding to, but let me try this in a different way: not liking one particular woman does not make a person sexist. What I was wondering about, not just in him, but in anyone who has that kind of gut reaction to her, is what is it about her that makes people have such a strong negative reaction? Is it just her voice? Is it how she sort of scolds people when she's attempting to lift them up? Is it her negativity? Her demeanor?

The only thing my husband has been able to tell me is she acts entitled, as though she alone deserves to have this and how dare anyone else get in the way.

Add the sleazy get-up and the sneering expression too.

it's the sense of entitlement.

I agree although it seems many of the supporters automatically say someone is sexist if you don't like her.
Besides the Bosnia lie and many investigations the Clintons have been involved in it is her sense that the presidency is owed to her.

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You just know the guy is transferring how he feels

It is sooo obvious but she is clueless:dunce:.... :rofl:

i wish someone would stuff something in her lying mouth.

I have a very low threshold for BS and I don't believe her.

I think she will do and say anything to achieve her goal, without any sense of consequences.

I think she will send people off to die on foreign soil just to make herself look tough.

I think she will throw the less fortunate under the bus for 2 points in a poll.

I think she is fake and phony and I get angry when I think of people falling for her BS.

If she can get THAT kind of reaction out of a life-long Democrat, I wouldn't even want to see the kind of reaction we'd see if she were the nom in the general election. Whew.

There are many politicians who get the same.

Bush, McCain, Lieberman and many many others. It is basically for anyone who says one thing, does another and then tries to tell you they didn't (yes, I include John Edwards in this group as well).

When someone says they voted for the bankrupcy bill but hoped it would fail THAT sums it up in a nutshell.

You are ultimately right about one thing... we are very lucky she isn't the nominee, b/c she can't win.. not because of sexism or anything like that, but b/c of the duplicity and the fact that the dem base/activisits will not turn out for her and will not work for her.

ago by someone on another site:


"Hillary has climbed over bodies (figuratively, of course. I think) to get where she is. She has stood by her husband, a serial adulterer. That was bad enough, although it is her choice. It speaks to her character, though. But she has also defended his actions. Inexcusable. I'm not talking about the adultery, either, but the lies. And the financial shenanigans. The chinese connection.

Hillary doesn't care for the people. I doubt she cares for Bill. She may care for Chelsea. But mainly she cares about Hillary. If I had to choose between them, I would probably choose Obama. "

you can get yer hands on the remote!

I thought my Ex had found my Penthouse collection.

your husband? Nothing wrong with Clinton.

naked ambition and utter ruthlessness. I know you have to have a pretty big ego to be a politician, but this goes way beyond ego.

First, simple classical conditioning: your husband has made a negative association between Clinton and what he perceives she represents. Like Pavlov's dog -- except bombarded with negative stimulus (Obama smear campaign) which he now pairs with Clinton. Like not being able to eat chocolate after it's made you sick - and experiencing that same feeling just by looking at or smelling chocolate.

Or, it could be that Clinton represents something unconscious in your husband that makes him uncomfortable - and so he projects his psychic pain onto Clinton as a method of coping.

PS, I doubt you can see this!

I'd be more concerned about that than how he feels about a candidate.

My husband is a Republican, and he's never called a woman a "b*tch", not even Hillary.

Peace in Ireland, NAFTA, DOMA, SCHIP, IWR, Tuzla... It's almost as if she thinks the rest of the world is complete morons, and will defend (or even believe) every ridiculous and bizarre thing that comes out of her mouth.

I find her intellectually insulting. It used to aggravate me, but lately, I find myself pitying her and hoping she'll find competent mental-health counseling.

LIVID like I do when he's on. He just makes my blood boil.

second longer than is necessary. We can't grab the remote fast enough when he's on.

Me too...except in the car, then I can get some cathartic primal scream therapy in! :D

have changed. Now I just hit mute on the remote. (I assume you let him have the remote)?

Have you finished up the one with all the drinking photos yet?

You are entirely insincere and lack any credibility.

It is really pathetic in here.

I was an Edwards supporter (now Obama) and I knew there was a possibility that Hillary would be the nominee for our party. I have never really liked her and could not put my finger on why. No, I am not a sexist as I'm a woman elected official myself and I know the barriers and frustrations that come with the territory. I tried, and continue to try to come to terms with my what I consider irrational distain for Hillary. I can't actually put my finger on it...it may be the arrogance of assumption that she would be the nominee, the advisors with whom she surrounds herself, her 'misstatements'. Several women that I know just don't like Hillary and seem to have a special almost hatred of her. They can't figure out why they feel so strongly either.

What I can say about Hillary, is that she certainly brings out strong feelings about her, whether positive or negative.

Very thoughtful. She *is* super polarizing.

you post something out of sincerity, get bopunced off the walls by some posters, and you are hanging in there...I think that shows great dignity and class.

Thansk you for your honesty and fortitude...regardless of the subject matter, I find it refreshing to see this and I offer you my congratulations...:hug:

tons of DUers fell for it too

It's unbelieveable what I'm seeing here.

but they're not sticking to the issues so it's something much, much deeper

Since Dodd dropped I've been a free agent. But I also realize both Obama and Hillary are politicians who are going to run (and act) like politicians in trying to get elected to the Democratic nomination for President; it's what everyone has done since we've had elections.

What's shocked me is how some of the most respected posters here have bought hook, line, and sinker into the "my candidate is always right/your candidate is always wrong" thinking that plays out over RW (by some LW) radio day after day; I really thought a couple in particular had the self-awareness to catch that in themselves, but I guess not.

There's very little difference between Obama and Hillary; very, very little.