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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:59 PM
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True fact: Obama has 38M on hand, Hillary has 17M on hand.
Obama also has 660K in debt, and Hillary has over 10M in debt.

Who do you really trust to be your PRESIDENT?!

I leave that question to your hands.

And I bid you a good night!

Hawkeye-X
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:00 AM
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1. It will be far worse once the next report comes out.
She has likely had to empty the warchest to slow Obama in PA. And while she will pick up donations after PA. It will not make up for stunning amounts of drain on the warchest.

She is going to be going into May QUITE weak.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:01 AM
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2. I read 31 mill
where's your source?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:07 AM
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4. Here.
It's actually 42M

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/C00431445.html
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:18 AM
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8. I read 51 mil on hand
isn't the 42 just the campaign income for the month?
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:26 AM
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12. where the hell are you pulling your numbers from?
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 12:26 AM by bobbert
I read right there 51 mill. He raised 42 mill in March. I already posted the real numbers, they're down the page a little.

edit: see post 11
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:02 AM
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3. That Shows How Deperate Obama's Become
He feels that he needs to have all of that cash on hand to beat Clinton.

:sarcasm:, OK?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:20 AM
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10. And if he has all that money, WHERE'S MY FUCKING PONY!!!!!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:13 AM
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5. $8 million for the primary available at the beginning of April. Debts of $10.3 million
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 12:14 AM by dkf
She is in the red $2 million at the beginning of April plus her $5 million loan. I bet she needed to do another loan to fund April ads.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hcoilzhWtvfWBl2MqCAEW8J3UQKgD9061TIO0
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:27 AM
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13. She has to win the primary or she can't pay her loan back
That's why she won't drop out. She has $5 million on the line!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:15 AM
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6. AP is reporting that he has $42 million, she $8 million.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/20/campaign.finance.ap/index.html

Is this wrong?

I don't understand the discrepancy. Did they deduct her debt or something?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:19 AM
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9. AP is right, sort of.
The amount on hand is $17 million, but she has over 10M.. so they thoughtfully deducted all her debt load from the cash on hand to around 7m, and they spun it up to 8M.

See? I can figure out AP's logic.

And yet, they're wrong.

Hawkeye-X
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:30 AM
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15. How did they get a higher number for Obama than you did?
That's still confusing me.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:31 AM
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16. 8 million left after you deduct GE funds right..
I don't think 8 million is counting debt.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:22 AM
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11. Those are amounts available to spend on the primary
Obama has 51 mill cash on hand, 9 mill specifically for GE

Hillary has 31 mill cash on hand, 23 mill specifically for GE

I guess a lot of Hillary's supporters are maxed out already :)
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:16 AM
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7. As my first post
I would like to point out that, coincidentally, so far in the primaries, 38 million people have voted for a Democratic candidate and 17 million have voted for a Repub. The media have been very careful not to emphasize the huge disparity in the overall vote. That's why it is so obvious that they will try to steal the vote again. The polls would want us to believe that McCain is neck-in-neck with either of the Dems. Statistically impossible. And believe me, the Republicans are spending a HUGE amount of money to influence the polls.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:29 AM
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14. Deal........or No Deal? n/t
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:04 AM
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17. Now if only the constitutionally mandated job of the president was internet fundraising.
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