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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:33 PM
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DUer's for Obama-Where are you at when it comes to holding past and present criminals
accountable, including private entities, when it comes to all the crimes committed by the administration of George Walker Bush, Richard Bruce Cheney et al?

I'm for prosecution to the fullest, and accountability.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:34 PM
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1. Ditto..........
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:35 PM
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2. I missed the boat when the 1st Clinton declined to prosecute the former Bush Admin.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:35 PM by AtomicKitten
This Clinton will NOT clean up for (reads: cover up for) another Bush.

Not this time.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:35 PM
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3. Moi, aussi.
You bet. The Repubs spent millions investigating a BJ.
The Dems need to go for EVERY crime that has been committed,
every document that has been inappropriately "classified", and every
contractor who has ripped off the people.


:patriot:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:37 PM
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4. I'm more concerned with preventing such abuses in the future
I'd like to see members of the current administration prosecuted but on the other hand it would become a divisive political sideshow, which the wingnuts would play off as the worst kind of patisan witch hunt. No good crying over spilt milk - better to clean the floor.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:40 PM
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8. Which brings up all the "paper" that papered over our Constitution as well
as illegal EO's, signing statements, etc.

The PATRIOT ACT etc. need to be vacated by President Obama's administration too.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:40 PM
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9. wrong
you think the Nuremburg trials should just have been skipped? "Water under the bridge; move on?"

I think there is a practical limit to how many of the guilty can be identified and successfully prosecuted, but we cannot just move on. "Preventing such abuses in the future" REQUIRES that there be penalties for the abusers.
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 PM
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14. I agree because...
I see corruption as a bigger threat to the country than terrorism...corruption is enabling terrorism. Corruption works against governance and is not supported by most people...
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:12 PM
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15. But that's not how the Repukes think...Try'm and jail'm. It's not just for the underclass ya'know.
Recoup the money for sure!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:38 PM
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5. I'm all for it
It's a big part of why I could never support Clinton - you just know she'd brush the whole thing under the rug.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:39 PM
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6. I am with you also
If they did the crime they need to do the time!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:39 PM
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7. same here. Do it quietly behind the scenes, but make sure it gets done
It will be hard to know where to draw the line though: For instance, once the top tier is locked up, how do we handle people who voted Yes for the IWR? Thousands of soldiers are dead, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died. They all deserve justice.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:42 PM
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10. Put every last one of them in prison.
These bastards have gotten away with a century of treason, fascism, terrorism, murder, and God knows what else. It's time they get what they deserve. :grr:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:44 PM
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11. but is Obama for accountability? Hmm?
I haven't seen any statement of his that would indicate this.

And hope won't issue indictments or reverse the tainting of the Department of Justice.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:44 PM
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12. Don't get too excited.
I doubt that anything will happen that even approaches the frog march to the Hague that so many here desire. Life is not fair and reality is a bitch, but that's what we have. So if you want everybody to pay to the measure they deserve, prepare to be disappointed.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:47 PM
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13. Right, neither Clinton nor Obama would have the moxie necessary to...
actually hold those thugs accountable.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:13 PM
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16. Obama's on record stating that he would ask his Justice Dept to look into the abuses.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:16 PM
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17. I believe in prosecuting all war crimes fully.
It'd take an army and a half of lawyers for anything more. The exception would be proof of election fraud, which MUST be prosecuted, if it's out there.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:17 PM
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18. Throw the book at the bums!
n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:19 PM
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19. Same as you. And Obama has said he will take action.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:21 PM
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20. I'm of two minds
1. I want every last of the fucking criminals in jail.

2. Doing that probably will bog down the government, and with what needs to be done, I'm not sure it wise to set aside time for this.*

* I'm basing this on WJC's Impeachment as my frame of reference.

Can a separate committee or something similar be set up? The Dept. of Justice? Something?
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