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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:48 PM
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Should Hillary Clinton face a primary challenge for her Senate seat if she loses the nomination?
Just what the title says. Yes or no.

I say yes.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:50 PM
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1. I say I don't care. I'm not a New Yorker.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:52 PM
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5. Neither is he. But then he's only been on DU for 2 days.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:27 PM
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52. Good. He's not all ruint yet. n/t
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:50 PM
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2. She's overqualified... but let's recruit Samantha Power
just sayin'
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:51 PM
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3. you do know she isn't up for reelection until 2012, correct?
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:52 PM
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6. Yeah. But I'm curious as to whether she ought to be allowed to run without challenge then, or if...
her actions this year will stick with her up through then.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:01 PM
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25. I am curious as to what YOU mean by "ought to be allowed"-- honestly, do you have
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 04:02 PM by niyad
no clue? do you have no understanding of how primaries work?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:52 PM
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4. Yes
I heard that if she was the nom, RFKjr was going to run for her seat. I think he should no matter what.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:52 PM
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7. don't care - up to new yorkers.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:53 PM
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10. That's their turf.
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:52 PM
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8. Carpet bagger can't decide where she's from anyway.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:53 PM
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9. I'm going to leave that up to the people of NY. nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:54 PM
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11. Let New Yorkers decide. I don't see why they would, she's been a pretty good Senator.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:48 PM
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58. Short of Bill Clinton runing against his wife
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 05:49 PM by 4themind
I don't see too much trouble with her winning in the primary (and RFK will probably just meekly bide his time) Her real problem (IMO) will come in if Ghouliani decides to run, if African American support for her has diminished.

EDIT: Apology, didn't mean to have this as a reply to your post, it was supposed to be for the O.P.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:55 PM
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12. Why should she?
nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:55 PM
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13. Only if the Dem voters in NY want to support a primary challenger.
That is completley up to the Dem voters in that state.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:55 PM
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14. Why?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:56 PM
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15. Well it will be 2012.
So I doubt the wounds from this primary will be fresh enough to be the reason to run against her.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:44 PM
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41. Don't count on it...nt
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:07 PM
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63. let's see 10 weeks ago she got more than 57% in the NY pres primary
but you think she'll be vulnerable in NY in 2012 because of the "wounds" from this race?

Not in the real world.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:50 PM
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68. Well....
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:51 PM by mamalone
Let me put it this way... she has alienated so many people that I honestly and truly do not know *one*single*person* in real life who supports her. Not one! My parents who have adored the Clintons can not stand them now.... my mom has had a picture of herself with Hillary on her study wall for years and now it's gone. My mom has specifically stated that she knows they think "we'll all forget" but she won't. They have been very active in the NY Dem party for decades- and they will never vote for or support a Clinton again. They are pretty typical of the other Dems and Inds I know around here. If Kennedy challenged her I don't think she'd have a chance, honestly.

It's the whole character thing... we've had a man devoid of integrity in the WH for the last couple of terms and look where it's gotten us:( She has done things recently that seem to indicate some real flaws in her character... or her sanity... People won't forget- it's too important.

Editing this to add that I am from NY, in case that wasn't clear.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:56 PM
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69. well, there are well over a million people in NY that you don't know then, aren't there
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:58 PM by onenote
Unless, of course, you are saying that the million plus people
who voted for hrc ten weeks ago don't exist in "real life."

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/NY.html

And, I'm an Obama supporter, but the idea that because you don't know anyone who supports HRC they don't exist is obviously and bizarrely misguided -- do you think no one is going to vote for her tomorrow in PA? Or that everyone who does is somehow immoral?

Its politics. There are sharp elbows.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:09 PM
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70. I wasn't meaning to imply
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 08:10 PM by mamalone
that none of the millions of NYers continue to support her. Obviously there are still Clinton folk here. I was just giving an illustration of the drastic change in her level of support by describing the folks that I personally know. Where a few months or weeks ago there were Hillary supporters everywhere, now they are few and far between. The two people of my acquaintance who are the most powerful in the NY Dem party (my parents) now actively despise her... after adoring her and Bill for years. I have to believe that what I am seeing in my area is happening to varying degrees all over the state.

The wind has changed is all I'm saying.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:58 PM
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16. She should face a challenger regardless of what happens
That's what the Democratic process is about.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:58 PM
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17. I say yes...
People from all over rallied against lieberman...why not clinton? I would fund her rival.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:59 PM
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18. I appreciate...
the respect shown by leaving it up to us NYers:)

And as a NYer, I have to say that I personally will do my darndest to see that she is challenged. I do not want her representing me any longer. My parents, who have been active in the NY Dem party for decades, want her out... at this point I don't think it would be speaking too strongly to say that they despise her. In truth I don't know a single person in real life who supports her now. Of course she could manage to make amends somehow, smooth things over somehow and hang onto her seat *somehow*... but as things stand currently I'll be shocked if she isn't challenged.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:59 PM
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19. She only joined so she could run for the presidency.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:03 PM
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28. she only joined WHAT so she could run?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:04 PM
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29. exactly! So why continue the charade once it's over? nt
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:32 PM
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37. joined WHAT?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:34 PM
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38. The Senate! nt
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:32 PM
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66. you aren't normally this dense. she didn't JOIN the senate, as one JOINS a club. she was ELECTED
not once, but TWICE. what part of that do you not understand?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:59 PM
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20. She'll go back and start smearing patterson, so she can be Governor of NY
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 04:00 PM by SoCalDem
won't finish her senate term..

patterson will suddenly need to spend more time with his family..
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:00 PM
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21. only if New Yorkers want it
I live in Florida, so its really not my business.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:00 PM
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22. Yes. she needs to be ousted as a example to others wishing to destroy our party.
out with her.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:01 PM
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23. Absolutely.
As should Obama and McSame. Sitting politicians basically quit their day jobs to run for President - I wouldn't get so much time off from my job for it, and neither would you. So yes, they should have to ask for their jobs again, since so much of their energy and time has gone into something other than their jobs.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:01 PM
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24. She should and I promise that she will.
Just like she did last time.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:01 PM
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26. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Get rid of this scumbag.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:03 PM
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27. Yes. Is it too late for Sheehan to move to NY?
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:05 PM
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30. Not needed.
She has this Nomination in her coat tailless bag.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:08 PM
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31. Whether she should be a Senator from NY is up to the people of the state of New York. n/t
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:09 PM
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32. Alright then. What do the people of New York have to say?
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:46 PM
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42. See response 18 ;-) nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:10 PM
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33. Considering her DINO ways, Hillary should definitely draw a strong challenger in her next NY primary
I'm sure the Obama nation can rally around a good candidate and see that they are funded properly to take on the worst DINO in our party. At least Zell Miller and Lieberman had the decency to stop pretending to be a Democrat.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:14 PM
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34. It would be good if there were a lot more primary challenges to senators overall
This seat for life thing is bad for us.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:18 PM
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35. I am a New Yorker and I don't think I can vote for her for anything again!
Not after the performance I have seen with the primaries. There have been times I have been embarrassed to say she is my Senator.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:19 PM
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36. If it's a true liberal, hell yes.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:38 PM
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39. Taking it to the convention it may naturally happen letting it be a democratic decsion maybe not.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 04:42 PM by barack the house
So, once whe have done all the states which allows us to build a network at least and she conceded I would say yes she wwill keep her seat. Against all odds I thnk Sen. Obama will still make her VP unless she puts off her own voters too. He has avoided attacking her for what I feel is strategic reasons.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:41 PM
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40. YES!
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:48 PM
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43. I would say YES, and it would be great if it was an Iraqi War VETERAN
I think she is damaged goods.


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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:50 PM
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44. Well now that she's lost her chance to be president...
What's the point in her continuing to pretend to represent New Yorkers? Wanting to be president is the only reason she came to New York anyway. I hope she just retires at the end of her current term if not earlier.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:58 PM
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45. Yes, she's become an utter embarrassment and needs to go!
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:00 PM
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46. I live in NY and plenty of people around here are getting sick of her. If..............
a serious candidate ran against her, she would probably lose her Senate seat.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:08 PM
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47. Everyone in Congress should face a primary challenge...
...whether or not s/he is running for president.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:15 PM
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48. Yes
Starting in 2010 we should start the process by finding a credible opponent than using the "liberal activist" that she loathes so much to fund that person to Lieberman her ass out of the party.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:20 PM
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49. see no particular reason for it
here's a question back: why should she?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:45 PM
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56. Broken promises. She promised jobs to Buffalo, then when they had a major net loss........
she blamed Al Gore for not winning the election.

Honestly, she hasn't done that much for the state.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:55 PM
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59. well, i guess it will be up to the voters in NY. They liked her in the primary
Hard to see much chance of anyone mounting much of a challenge. Sje was reelected in 2006 and won't face another election until 2012, which is basically a lifetime from now. As for unemployment in Buffalo, its been up and down during her tenure. I have some friends in that part of the state and they don't seem to hold her personally responsible.

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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:01 PM
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61. Under her tenure it has bone up once. It's been a net loss of over 80,000 jobs. n/t
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:04 PM
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62. senators generally aren't held responsible for unemployment -- just sayin
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:25 PM
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50. Do you even believe she will run for re-election?
He time in the Senate was just a setup for this presidential election. I honestly don't think she really cares about being a Senator. I expect that she won't seek re-election, and she will get a nice high paying gig in the private sector.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:26 PM
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51. More and better Democrats are what I'm about. If there's a better one, by all means challenge.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:29 PM
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53. Hell yes! I'd be one of the first to donate to her democratic primary contender in 2012.
HRC deserves to be sent packing off of the political stage. May this mean-sprited woman and her "good ole southern strategy boy" husband fade into obscurity.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:37 PM
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54. Yes, maybe Jonathan Tasini will
have better luck getting hilary to debate him this time since she's all about debates. She would not debate him in 2006..he being the anti-war candidate.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=41233
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:40 PM
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55. does the liberal party in New York have anybody of stature?
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:46 PM
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57. Hell yes!
Purge the party of DLC DINOs
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:56 PM
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60. No
It would just be a waste of time. She easilly won NY in the Presidential primary and would easily beat back any challengers in a Senate primary.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:08 PM
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64. Might be entertaining. Hopefully, they'll use the same tactics she has.
I hope they don't hold anything back. I'd love to youtube some political ads with
spoofs of Hillary's Bosnia sniper BS. Among other things. A little shadenfreude
would be fun. It really doesn't matter to me much since I'm in NC, not NYC.


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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:09 PM
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65. New Yorkers will know best, but what plays nationally may not play in New York.
I say leave it up to the New Yorkers.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:48 PM
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67. Depends on how she handles losing
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:09 PM
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71. Yes
I'm sure New Yorkers can find a better candidate.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:10 PM
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72. I say fuck you.
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:11 PM
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74. Such sour milk.
Don't drink it. Might spoil your tummy.
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:10 PM
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73. haha
Good luck.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:01 PM
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75. Hell Yes!
Hi New Yorker here

:hi:

Just for the record, Senator Clinton did face a challenger in the 2006 election his name was Jonathan Tasini. He just didn't have much money or quite the statewide recognition. That said, I would love love LOVE to see someone challenger her in the Democratic primary.

After this disastrous slash and burn strategy she's used in the presidential primary I don't care to see her representing me again.

Regards
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