Obamites threatening, harassing black Clinton supporters

More division from the "unity" camp that also claims its messiah alone is equipped to usher in a post-racial era. This has been going on for a while and goes straight to the highest level of Obama's campaign in the form of his national co-chair Jesse Jackson Jr. Obama has not said a single word denouncing this. His talk about unity? Just words...


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Lloyd Elam says he supports Hillary Rodham Clinton at his own risk.

"I felt like if I stood up and said I was for Hillary, there was no telling what would have happened," Mr. Elam said. "I went home early and watched the results on television."

(More proof why caucuses are a sham. It isn't just because most of them have turnout ranging from 2-5% and as low as 1.9%)

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Black elected officials such as Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Houston have been booed and jeered by Obama supporters at public events. Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., has received threatening letters because of her support for Mrs. Clinton.

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I understand the emotional charge that African-Americans got when they saw the surge in Obama's campaign," said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who has been called an Uncle Tom by Obama supporters. "But a lot of people have experienced threats and so forth. The tragedy is, of all the people in the country who can least afford to dictate how people should vote, it's that group."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-loyalty_21pol.ART0.State.Edition2.4641c17.html

Keep in mind Tavis Smiley didn't just get harassed. He received death threats for uttering mild criticism of Obama (we also know Mayhill Fowler, who I believe is white, has gotten death threats from the non-cult so at least their death threat squad zealotry cuts beyond race).

Allrighty then #1.

Hawkeye-X

Sorry if you don't want to acknowledge it, but it is the truth. It's been happening for months and months now. Black Clinton supporters have posted extensively about it all over the place. Hell, it's not even just aimed at Black Clinton supporters, but any Black who dares to raise concerns about Obama. Tavis Smiley is just one example of that. Cornel West--an avowed Obama supporter--was raked over the coals for merely questioning the wisdom of Barack not attending MLK memorials.

But of course, Obama supporters don't give a flying fuck about any of this because we're all just "Uncle Toms".

scaife. No denouncing? No umbrage? Oh, right. She can do no wrong.

what this campaign has revealed.

But it's good that it's out there.

OBAMA HAS TO COME OUT AND TELL HIS SUPPORTERS TO STOP IT.

And that's Obama's fault how exactly? If I were you, I would focus on the candidates flaws, not those of his supporters, I know, scandals are fun for you, practically all you have left, but you won't convince anyone to vote for Hillary this way...
:eyes:

yawn...

should know that when you rally the masses, many of them ignorant or angry or "bitter", and feed their anger, and start a cult of personality, that you have to be careful. He has done NOTHING to keep the mob from getting angry.

and that is Hillary's fault, right?

that was in the news a while back.

on a regular basis and she ignored it.

Yes, any candidate does have some responsibility if her/his supporters get the impression that it is OK with her/him to threaten or physically attack the supporters of her/his opponent.

Not exactly a good example of Clintonian perfidy.

Tho I do not see that.

we Obama cultists have called in air strikes for Clinton stronghold districts.

Lo the carnage!

:eyes:

It's a conspiracy, jd. Run for your life!

In fact, I recommend some for you, jd.

Events appear to have soured you.

about threats of physical violence. It is not a joke.

The OP did go on a while with a very hysteical, shrieking, "I'm totally appalled!" shtick -- it was aburd enough to be hilarious.

The OP would likely never get through a political history course if he/she thinks this nomination race is rough.

for your friends and associates if they ever have the gall to disagree with you.

"Rough" is one thing. Death threats are something completely different. If you find it to be amusing and/or entertaining, I find that very disturbing.

Your gal is in the news quite recently with threats to "obliterate" Iran if they attacked a U.S. ally.

against Israel....You bet! And with the help of US allies. I'm quite sure you do NOT think death threats to political opponents is fine, but threats against a nuclear Iran that has attacked a key ally is not!...RIGHT?

I mean, way off the chart bothered.

Edwards knows that HRC isn't worthy of populist support.

"vote for Senator Obama"?

and at another time said she had no conscience? That Edwards?

:crazy: I know you are are kidding about the duck marshes.

I'm African American and I'm proudly for Obama.

It cracks me up when people say we are beating up on our Brothers and Sisters!
To us that is crazy,almost surreal.

We are Brothers and Sisters, we are FAMILY and we have strong opinions and we "tell it like it is" when we talk to each other.

Let's take Tavis: Tavis is a good and decent Brother.
He appears to support HC.
No problem.
However, when he gets in a group of his "Brothers and Sisters" we will tell him EXACTLY what we think!

A typical conversation would be....

"Tavis, my brother, wake up! Don't you understand that Barack is a cool brother!"

"Tavis,my brother,we have supported all these White candidates for all these years and now we can support a brilliant Brother that cares about ALL people!"
"Hello- sense to Brother Tavis, Don't you get it?!"

Then Tavis defenses his position and he quickly realizes that all the other Brothers that he is talking to outnumber him and he gets frustrated!

That when the others start piling on and laughing and slapping hands, they will even pat him on the back and say, " Tavis, Wake Up Man, OBAMA is the MAN!"

Then they might start laughing at him and doing a Fraternity Stomp, " Woof! Woof! OBAMA, OBAMA!" " and just keep teasing him and laughing.

Will Tavis be mad - yes.

Will Tavis quit his job on Tom Joyner's show when all the listeners keep letting him know that they don't agree with him - yes he did.

We are FAMILY and we will always be family, that's how we have survived all these years.

polling says HRC is in the lead in Pennsylvania, but shortly afterward come NC and Indiana, and I think Obama wins them both.

With those two wins, he buries her rationale for the nomination, IMO.

....maybe not this month. But coming.
Turning democrat on democrat.
You can't set about destroying a big creaky boat like the democratic party and then hope it won't sink before the general election.

Thanks for the post J-D.

Obama is stirring up racial hatred to incite a race war if he doesn't get the nomination. It's Black vs White..Donna Brazile said as much. Nevermind dem vs dem. Obama figures if he can't have the nom; neither will Hillary..

supporters, laughing maniacally!

Man, that trainwreck is a trainwreck's trainwreck, definitely.

or do I REALLY have to read it??

I don't see it, but if you do can you point it out please?

Let's see what race-baiting really is, here

edited to add : response to post#6 instead, not yours

specializes in complete bullshit.....

sorry if you got that late, I tried to edit

:hi:

:D we don't even have control over our keyboards at times! :rofl: But hey...half of the nightmare should end after tomorrow..or at least some of it

since the last primary...too much time for the MSM idiots to turn it into a sporting event.


They aren't even reporting death in Iraq anymore, are they??

I've only been on here, and any deaths reported in Iraq I find out about them from here ( it seems we have good reporters here, too ) CNN and CSPAN are just too depressing...I can't do it, anymore

and the sad fact is, I used to do it all the time

Cheers to you!!! I think that is the 1,000,000 post of its kind from you.

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And nothing racial about 90%* black support for Obama? (*alleged by some polls)

If someone can't stand up for who they believe in and stand on their own, then too goddamn bad.

This weepy, poor-me garbage is as vapid as the cries of "sexism" if you don't like a pathologically lying warmonger, woman or not.

This is change we can believe in?

Or perhaps you should look deeper into his kindergarten papers. I'm sure there's more to know there?

exactly to do with the OP's point????? :shrug:

who happened to be Obama supporters. It's their right.

Tavis will be fine. He over-extended himself and his own listeners expressed their displeasure with his opinions.

If there are genuine threats, they should be reported to police. Otherwise, this is just people with hurt feelings because their respective constituencies are disagreeing with them rather passionately.

Have Clinton supporters? Edwards? McSame? Huckabee? Romney? Kerry in 04'? Dean? Bradley? Tsongas? Brown? ONLY Obamites consistently do this, whether to national people like Tavis Smiley or the DUer who spoke about her and her husband being harassed and threatened yesterday.

on the other side of the street by obama supporters b/c i had a hillary sign under my arm. it's disgusting that you think intimidation is okay. but it's becoming increasingly typical from Obama supporters.

The Obama "movement" is unlike anything we have ever seen in 200 years and not for the right reasons...

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It's outright hatred and fascism being perpetrated on the community by a vocal faction of Obama supporters (not all of them are like that, to be fair, but there is a sizeable group). My aunt caucused for Hillary in Nevada and her tires were slashed because she has a Hillary bumper sticker on her vehicle. This is a 70 year old woman who was born in Jim Crow South Carolina and marched in Selma. That's the most extreme case I personally know of, but beyond that there has been a tremendous amount of namecalling and disrespect. People being called Uncle Toms and House Negroes for supporting a different candidate. Shit, I got it back when I was a Kucinich supporter and was still neutral on Clinton. I am not whining about it, because I am not one to let trifling MFers intimidate me, I am just stating facts.

There is some very real bullying and batshit insanity going on among black folks WRT Obama, and if you can't see it then you either need to get your eyes checked or you are part of the problem. People have let emotions cloud their judgment.

ala Karl Rove.

Even this time around only one did. It is not a common tactic. Well, not common to a political campaign. To a cult, though...

defined as "dead to us" by lead Clinton people. Your whole post is another Rovian accuse the other side for what they are doing. The fact is that it likely took more guts for any established Democrat to stand up for Obama especially before SuperTuesday. There was a very strong chance that she would have had everything wrapped up the day after SuperTuesday - and the Clintons were as likely to "punish" dissenters as the Bushes. They also controlled most of the Democratic party in exile in the think tanks and media.

Mr. Todd said that black voters are wary of African-Americans who unfairly attack Mr. Obama.

"I don't think anyone should be above criticism or anyone should be prohibited from supporting someone else," said Dallas lawyer Michael J. Todd, an Obama supporter. "We have never had an African-American candidate as qualified as Obama is. When people criticize him, what it does is feed into the historical mindset that we're trying to isolate on faults, when we recognize that the other candidates that he's going against have faults equal to or greater than whatever we're criticizing him about."


Ms. Hartley said the heartache over the campaign will end when Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama claims the nomination.

I'm a Democrat," she said. "So whoever is the nominee, those are the pompoms and T-shirts I will wear."

If you disagree with me, fine. :thumbsup: to you for reading it.

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the Democratic Party, but now are whining about random complaints from individuals. How do they know for sure these threats are being made by Obama supporters?




edited word.

How many of them have had supporters do this? Making death threats and other forms of harassment is not exactly a normal political tactic...

stabbed a relative?

Use your head, this is whining based on sensationalism. No one should be threatening Tavis Smiley's life, and believing that such a person is any less than a trouble person or psychotic is desperation.

Should we assume that the death threats leveled at Obama's surrogates are being made by Hillary supporters?

This is the sad unintended consequence of creating a cult. He MUST win, he is "the one", "the answer", "the savior", the "messiah" and once you begin to believe that you will do anything to help him.

You're quoting yourself.

to pull "financial support" come even CLOSe to death threats. It is really unbelievable that your OP is receiving this kind of response on a Democratic board. Some of the posters actually seem to think that there is no problem with using the threat of physical violence to get their own way. Unreal!

:(

and it's all they have left. Obama can rally the sheep, but cannot control the mob.

This tune, in an attempt to "play the refs" is just damn SAD. :(

it's clear mob hostility has become part of the Obama campaign. Just like the bloggers here threatening to riot in denver.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/30/rep-sheila-jackson-lee-booed-by-pro-obama-constituents/

This is the problem with running a cult instead of a campaign. He MUST win and anything to achieve that is within bounds if you accept the cult premise about the Leader.

threatening to riot at the convention if hillary "steals the election". Obama does not know how to control the power he has. it's dangerous.

now thats' scary.

Why can't you accept that Obama gets the level of support he gets on the merits?

And why can't you accept that it was the corporate media, not Obama, that screwed John Edwards?

It's said to see someone lower themselves to the tactics you're using. In my heart, I know you're a better person than this.

And in your heart, YOU know that HRC doesn't DESERVE the support of either African Americans OR populists. Not after she served on the WalMart board.

I'm sure you're very concerned.

With this article, you get to malign blacks and Obama supporters in one swoop. Any threats Tavis received were just pranks by trolls. Get it? Nuts who threaten bodily harm are not representative of Obama supporters, black or otherwise.

lol another Obamite calling me a racist without any evidence. This is partly why Obama has tanked with whites. His followers scream racism 24/7 and it inevitably turns people off.

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It is clear many members of the cult have been trained to use this smear just as Bushbots were trained to use "you are unpatriotic". You have the most ironic name here, though. :rofl:

Obama received repeated death threats, and so did Jesse Jackson.

Should we assume that Obama's death threats are coming from Hillary supporters?

the vents of Hillary's campaign headquarters in Pennsylvania.

I kid you not.

Snarling, slobbering, toxin-spewing, razor-toothed, long-clawed muskrats swarming through the pipes and vents and underways and overpipes and backwalls of Clinton HQ.

Tomorrow, the walls will give and the swarm shall be upon the volunteers thereof, and terrible will be the screaming, the horror, the carnage!

:rofl:

... startled, ambushed Clinton staffers, grasping at the snowshovels left over from the Iowa caucus, flailing desperately at the muskrat swarm...

:9

Nutria don't like dem people neither! :9

I'm doing multiple regressions in my sleep, when I can get it, and when I close my eyes I see screen burn-in of radiometric brightness values of NIR pixels that have jumped off the regression line into outlier world.

I've been ratioed! Make the algorithms stop!

edit: How are you? :D

Madame Someone-or-Other. Cleo? I forget the name. Anyway, she's not on anymore but I'll try to track her down and see if she can intercede in your behalf.

Seriously, string up a hammock and grab some much-deserved snoozin'. While Condi Rice was doing absolutely nothing or less, you were hard at work using your mind and spirit toward something genuine and worthwhile.

That's debatable. :D

Though, I really do think crawfish boils are a worthy endeavor. :9

reader of books and ideas and music and art of all sorts.

Plus your images are damned excellent.

:D

By the way, read any good books lately? I wish I had time to read interesting books, let alone non-English ones. I lament the loss of language skills to the point it is debilitating. The other day I started reading Tirso de Molina's "El Burlador de Sevilla y convidado de piedra," but ended up skipping to the scene where he goes to Hell with Don Gonzalo... It was too tedious.

I'm in a sort of unofficial film-watching group -- a cult if there ever was one -- and we've been spending a lot of time watching Louis Malle's AU REVOIR, LES ENFANTS and MURMUR OF THE HEART.

In the grocery store the other day I caught myself humming Dusty Springfield's "Son of a Preacher Man."

Fortunately, I can't get it out of my head.

When I was studying Bach's "Die Kunst der Fuge" (The Art of the Fugue), and how to write 4 part fugues, I could not get the perpetual canons out of my mind.

I do, however, like to listen to certain types of music while I read, i.e. Renaissance carols (dance music) by Dowland, Campion, Cutting et al while I read Tolkein. :D

fugal themes in his head simultaneously, and that he likely let off steam by uh, reproducing.

20 kids. Damn.

Note to Clinton and supporters: repeated outright lies and slander diminish credibility, and people grow tired of listening to your bullshit and even more tired of trying to believe it.

:tinfoilhat:

My area did go heavily Obama. The precinct caucuses were crazy busy but very civil between camps.

The legislative district caucuses were a little different. Only the precinct delegates attended, but the crowd was no smaller. Huzzah, 9 hours in the high school bleachers.

Before we broke into groups, each campaign had an opportunity to speak to the whole assembly. The Clinton spokesperson went first, and the crowd was pretty good, save for one loudmouth shouting questions. When the Obama spokesperson came up, though, there was a small group of Clinton supporters who jeered, shouted, and tried to drown the speaker out by pounding their feet on the bleachers. I was embarrassed for them and very glad when we broke into groups. Their behavior didn't intimidate anyone, though, and really only made the Clinton delegates look bad.

Here's what I don't get--where I live, the caucuses are first held at the precinct level, where supporters write down their choice of candidate, then are given the chance to switch if they want it. No public declaration is necessary; only those wishing to be delegates actually state their preference publicly. Then, at the leg. district caucus, supporters of the candidates are given the chance to switch (again, by writing their change in, not in a public forum). Then, the two candidates' supporters break into separate caucuses. So, where's the opportunity to pressure? What "sham" do you see here?

I don't really like caucuses myself--I'd be much happier to have spent the hour that most of you all spent casting my primary ballot. However, I live in a caucus state, so I spent 18 hours over two days doing my part.

Ninner ninner ninners!

:beer:

K&R to give this sorry nonsense more exposure. The stench of desperation is enough to makes one's eyes water.

As for your post:
F

THEY INTIMIDATE ME!

Seriously now.

African American acquaintances who volunteer to me, almost confessionally, their support of Clinton.

I really have to wonder why. Not why they support her...I mean, are they reacting to my white middle-aged femaleness in some absurd and stereotypical way? Ye Gods-pandering to me? I haven't a clue. So I just smile and say, "Me, too." And go on to ask what they appreciate most about her.

P.S. The vote is in on the experience and readiness issue.

Unity camp, pft...how darling, how quaint, how cute they must be somewhere

One of Hillary's closest and stanchest supporters openly admitted to sexually harassing a 20 something intern in their workplace... engaging is lewd conduct inappropriate for the workplace, and contributing to creating a hostile work environment for other female employees.

How can Hillary condone acts of sexual harassment in the workplace perpetrated by her a top member of her campaign?


Until she fires this known harasser and abuser of women from her campaign, i can only assume she supports and condones this type of behavior towards women.

I can't wait till this primary is over.

The stupid... make it stop!

pathetic.

Pathetic is a good description, if a bit understated.

Has proven to be quite the weasel. I used to like his dad - although he has his problems too. But the sprog is charmless.

Well - if you take the long view - when goes around comes around. Problem with that is - we all have to suffer during the wait period.

What is he waiting for?

BTW - say goodbye to your Suns. GO SPURS!

Hillarites threatening, harassing female Obama supporters.

But though that would be 100% true, that would be a waste of a thread, now wouldn't it?

These disgusting antics and the attitudes of Obama supporters in general, along with the condescension I've been seeing lately against the blue-collar working class from that whole camp, is why I have decided to help Hillary win here in PA. I've got no better reason really, indifferent as I am towards them both - or at least was, up until Obama's San Francisco speech. There is also the fact that no Democratic candidate can win the GE without the blue-collar support, and since it's more or less evident Obama won't rack it up in any big numbers, that makes Hillary the more obvious choice. Also, Hillary has PA roots, and a better understanding of the needs of this state as a whole.

I'm still hoping a brokered convention will hand it to Gore or Edwards in the end though; now more than ever. But for me at this moment, out of these two poor choices, Hillary it is.

And any Obama supporters who want to threaten me or slash my tires or whatever the flavor of the day is with you guys, by all means come look me up in rural PA. But don't for a second think you can intimidate me or make me back down. And remember to be careful, because after all I'll be clinging to my guns, bitter as I am.

Ugh

I don't feel she should be harrassed but can't see it help her re-election whne her district voted for Obama by over 90 percent.

God forbid you should support the "white" candidate of your choice

Your posts are getting more flame worthy...but keep em coming. :popcorn: