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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:57 PM
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"The Low Road": Once a Clinton backer, the NY Times now savages her for Republican tactics.
The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.

Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election.

If nothing else, self interest should push her in that direction. Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed to challenge the calculus of the Democratic race. It is true that Senator Barack Obama outspent her 2-to-1. But Mrs. Clinton and her advisers should mainly blame themselves, because, as the political operatives say, they went heavily negative and ended up squandering a good part of what was once a 20-point lead.

On the eve of this crucial primary, Mrs. Clinton became the first Democratic candidate to wave the bloody shirt of 9/11. A Clinton television ad — torn right from Karl Rove’s playbook — evoked the 1929 stock market crash, Pearl Harbor, the Cuban missile crisis, the cold war and the 9/11 attacks, complete with video of Osama bin Laden. “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen,” the narrator intoned.

If that was supposed to bolster Mrs. Clinton’s argument that she is the better prepared to be president in a dangerous world, she sent the opposite message on Tuesday morning by declaring in an interview on ABC News that if Iran attacked Israel while she were president: “We would be able to totally obliterate them.”

By staying on the attack and not engaging Mr. Obama on the substance of issues like terrorism, the economy and how to organize an orderly exit from Iraq, Mrs. Clinton does more than just turn off voters who don’t like negative campaigning. She undercuts the rationale for her candidacy that led this page and others to support her: that she is more qualified, right now, to be president than Mr. Obama.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:59 PM
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1. As a side note.....

CLINTON, HILLARY 1,222,919 54.3%
OBAMA, BARACK 1,027,315 45.7%


8.6% difference.

Not double digits.



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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:02 AM
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2. 8.6% in a big state is ass-whooping in my book n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:05 AM
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3. When you needed to get 30% in each remaining state to close the gap, no, it really isn't.
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:07 AM
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5. I am talking BIG states like PA, NY, CA, FL
which Obama lost to Hillary. Obama has won a lot
of red states which he can't carry in GE. He is
not electable.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:11 AM
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7. And Hillary can't win states period, since she's still behind him by every metric--including
the only one that actually counts: delegates.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:57 AM
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17. No, not really.....not when you are battling ABC, the GOP, and
the GOP type candidate from your own party.

Than 8.6% is not so much.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:06 AM
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4. She'll get even less of an edge in the PA pledged delegates, too.
:shrug:
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:09 AM
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6. Agreed, Hillary won't surpass Obama in delegate count
but when the super delegates vote, Hillary will be the
nominee. I am betting money on it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:11 AM
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9. Hope you didn't bet too much. Hillary needs the supers to break for her 4-1.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:11 AM
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10. Well, that *IS* the best way to lose in November.
The appetite of the DLCers for power is just as insatiable as the GOP. The corporate bosses who sponsor both really don't give a shit whether it's DLC or GOP at this point.

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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 AM
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14. Every job I ever had was with some corporation.
If corporations all go kaput, where will the taxes come from?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:31 AM
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15. Good grief. Take a logic course.
There's not space enough on DU (or time enough to waaste in my life) to describe the idiocy of that response ... even as someone who's spent over 35 years in the belly of the beast - including 6 years as an internal auditor and more as an operational/management analyst for three Fortune 50 corporations.

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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:37 AM
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16. Sorry no more college courses for me
I am burned out from 7 years of Engineering college which
includes a Master's degree.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:38 PM
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21. There is a difference between...
...having knowledge and having wisdom.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:11 AM
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8. This is a critically important editorial
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:13 AM
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11. Surprise surprise. Expect the same from ABC and the others.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:13 AM by bhikkhu
New best friends such as those are not the ones you need...
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:14 AM
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12. Clinton's new 'friends' from Whitewater now pushing Obama attacks
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 AM
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13. The NYT just told the secret
that the DNC insiders have been trying to hide. This is an important editorial that will speak to many SD's. Her so call win tonight did not help her. She did herself no favors with that bombing Iran mess. The writing is on the wall even the Repigs know so. They are so desperate to run against her they are desperately meddling with our primaries with 527 ads.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:16 AM
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18. That last paragraph in your OP tells it all
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:58 AM
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19. K/R
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:44 AM
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20. k & r
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:44 PM
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22. Carville said tonight on Larry King
that this editor didn't know anything about Politics
But, that is not whining
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