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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:23 AM
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You Break The Rules...You Don't Count..FL&MI


Sorry Michigan and Florida your state democratic party decide to break the rules regarding the primary. I know some of you Hillary supporters probably feel that your voice and vote have not been heard but they have and your votes were counted but because the rules were broke they became null and void.


I know you are looking for every crumb out there in hopes you can put together a bigger loaf of bread then Obama but if the rules were broke the rules must be followed for the integrity of the system.Hillary is trying her best to rewrite these rules for her benefit.

If the tables were turned I'm more than sure that you would feel the same about Obama......If you have a problem with the rules take it up with you local state party....they are the ones to blame Not Obama

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:24 AM
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1. She also signed off on these rules...
that's what I don't get. She agreed to them.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:25 AM
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2. Fla Dems got screwed by their Republican governor. MI and FL situations are very different. nt
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:46 AM
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7. FL legislators (all except one) voted WITH the Repubs to change the date.
Then, they introduced a bill to change the date back and laughed about how they were going to use it to convince the DNC that they tried to obey the rules.

FL's Dem legislators were complicit. They have no excuses.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:47 AM
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8. Florida's Democrats in their legislature also signed off on moving up the primary.
Howard Dean said it best - he said the DNC likely would have let Florida get away with seating half their delegates if the Democrats in Florida actively fought against moving up the primary, but instead, they enthusiastically participated in breaking DNC rules, so they got slapped hard.

No sympathy here. Florida's voters can take their frustration out on their legislature this November.
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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:26 AM
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3. Communal punishment is wrong when Israel does it to Palestinians, and when the DNC does
it to the citizens of Florida and Michigan. Those people generally didn't have anything to do with what their state legislature did (I mean really, who here knows their state's primary date except a few weeks out when you're looking to vote?) and shouldn't be punished for it.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:40 AM
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6. Ignorance as an excuse??
fucking great
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:27 AM
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4. I'm in Mi.
and I am totally cool with that.

I'm a little pissed off that when HC talks about counting Mi. she only means the 55% she got not the 45% that voted against her.

Way to disenfranchise Hillary.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:10 AM
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11. Looking at the early polls, its clear Hillary has turned Florida against Obama..but not Michigan.
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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:32 AM
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5. Also, it would be a real tragedy, after how hotly fought this campaign has been
for the contest to be resolved in a way that doesn't reflect the will of the American people. The contest has brought in a lot of new Democrats and also energized old ones, and it would be a real mistake for the party to send a message to these people that their votes didn't matter - that what mattered instead were archaic party rules or the personal whims of super-delegates.

I think we would be risking sending those people right back out of the Democratic party just as soon as we've got them in. It would also kill our chances in November.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:09 AM
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9. Lets Also Remember


......Edwards,Biden,Dodd and Richardson also respected the rules and kept their names of the MI ballots, so if the rules were changed to accommodate Hillary then I say lets get the real pulse/will of the people and equally split the vote and delegates between them.

Again Hillary doesn't follow the rules..
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:10 AM
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10. She signed off on those rules too...
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