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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:17 AM
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Which insult is acceptable to call Senator Obama?
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 07:18 AM by DemVet
None. And I'll admit, I've been guilty of calling Senator Obama "Barry." That's pretty tame compared to what Hillary has been called.

However, it appears to be in vogue to call Senator Clinton every foul name under the sun.

Hilli Vanilli

Hitlery

Killery

Succubus

Bitch

C**t (that word is so foul to call any woman that it is disgusting)

etc. We've all seen them all. I won't list any more...I'm afraid it will give the sleeze element on this board ideas.

So why is it OK to call Hillary names and not Obama?


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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:18 AM
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1. Excellent post, DemVet. Some so-called Democrats should be ASHAMED of the sexism
and hate they've shown Hillary. And DU should be ashamed for ALLOWING IT.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:21 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. We're not allowed to be angry at the person destroying our party?
Too bad ... I'm still going to be angry. We may as well say so. Are you the only one allowed to express an opinion
about "those shameful so-called Democrats" but no one else can use words against Hillary?
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:28 AM
Response to Reply #5
13. That is not anger that is blind rage manifested as childish name calling
i am still surprised at them amount of rage that comes from the supporters of the candidate for unity, change and hope. Are these just words uttered on campaign stoops?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:13 AM
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43. I'm not a "campaign" -- I'm one person. I supported Edwards but now he's out
I'm only supporting Obama because to any person thinking logically, he IS our nominee. All Hillary is doing is consciously standing in the way of Obama attacking McCain. She is trying to help McCain. She sure as hell isn't a Democrat anymore.

My rage is real and it has nothing to do with Barack Obama. It has EVERYTHING to do with Hillary Clinton.

Name-calling is only "childish", it seems, when the Hillary supporters are the targets.

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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:29 AM
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17. Destroying our Party?
You've bought the argument all the media pundits are spewing...Hillary contesting the Nomination for so long is destroying the Democratic Party.

What utter BS.

The Primary season was intended to be this long...having a Nominee after a couple of state's primaries like recent election cycles is an anomaly.

No one ever said a candidate would be decided by Super Tuesday.

Hillary may be behind, but Obama hasn't won the Nomination. Not yet anyway.

He needs 2025 delegates to do that, and most likely won't have enough until the convention.

That's the way the process is.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #17
40. I haven't "bought" anything -- I see with my own eyes based on 30 years of party activism
This person is siding with Republicans against us. I once had enormous respect and affection for the Clintons. I went out of my way once to try to meet them and failed -- I would not now cross the street to do so.

SHE broke that faith. SHE made those mistakes. SHE is the one who will be blamed -- and rightly damned so.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:28 AM
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106. "siding with republicans against us?" Where the hell are you coming up with this stuff?
You make shit up about what she is doing, re-define who she is, and then hate her for your false re-definition.

Whacked.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #106
134. Whacked? Because of the GOP, McCain and Clinton ALL triangulating attacks on Obama?
You damned right she's working with the Republicans -- in fact, I'll go one more. She IS a Republican. She has been hiding in the party, along with Bill, the whole time.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #134
136. Yes. You are right her tireless work for progressive values have been a long long cover
waiting for this moment in time. That is some serious F'd up thinking.

Look at her record, it will show you how far off base you are.

"Republicans and her both attacking Obama" So, when Obama, Edwards and the Republicans were all attacking Clinton, when she was in the lead, I will bet you were the FIRST ONE IN LINE shouting about how Edwards and Obama are with the Republicans, right? Yeah. right

YOur logic is all messed up.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #136
147. Her long, tireless work to line her pockets and curry favor with industrialists, too
Sorry, I used to have immense respect for her.

My logic is fine -- you simply can't see reality through your rose-colored glasses.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #134
137. Once again, you've bought the media spin lock, stock, and barrel.
Use your own mind instead of watching idiots like Olbermann so much.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #137
146. Wait, I'm believing the LIBERAL media, am I?
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 07:08 PM by melody
You're the one buying bull from your golden goddess.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #40
116. That's right. Precisely.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #17
107. Where is the BS?
Hillary has all but said McCain would be a better president than Obama! She is not just contesting the nomination she is undercutting Obama every chance she gets..

McCain is more experienced than Obama
Obama does not get small town America, he is an elitist
All Obama has to his name is a speech in 2002

Come on!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #107
119. And Obama said McCain would be better than Bush ...
Kinda blows the "Bush 3" theme for the fall campaign ... was that an endorsement I heard?

Bake
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #119
121. You see no difference between
McCain (R) is Better than Bush (R) something with which many here might agree and

McCain (R) is Better than Obama (D) ?

Really you see no difference there?
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #121
125. What I see is Obama telling Pubs who are sick of Bush
That McCain would be better than that, so it must be OK to vote for him. And for the record, Hillary did NOT say McCain would be "better than Obama."

Bake
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #125
127. Rubella is better than cancer..
Thats *not* an endorsement of Rubella.. and to compare Hillary pimping McCain over Obama with Obama stating that nobody is as bad as bush takes a monumental amount of obtuseness
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #125
139. Exactly.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #107
138. You can't dispute the essential truth now can you?
McCain is more experienced than Obama
Obama does not get small town America, he is an elitist
All Obama has to his name is a speech in 2002

Those are all true statements.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #138
148. Obama is an elected senator from Il
WHo has served more time in elected office than Hillary, who has btw, not had to move to a different state (Carpetbagger) for a favorable venue on which to run for office.. Obama was verbally against the IWR (which Hillary signed) and has been for the most part wiping the floor with her in the primaries...

Seems he has a bit more to his name than you think..

Still if Obama said 'Well Hillary seems to have trouble accounting the true events surrounding some of her foreign policy experience, McCain does not have that issue'

It would be factually correct so you would not give a crap right? Hillary is willing to sink another Dem for her own advancement *not* what the party needs right now..
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #17
143. RE: "No one ever said a candidate would be decided by Super Tuesday."
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 03:08 PM by TTUBatfan2008
Your girl Hillary actually said that on one of the morning shows back in late 2007. She referred to Super Tuesday as the long run and said that it would be over by then, assuming that SHE would win by then. And it's precisely why she got her ass so thoroughly handed to her during the rest of February. She had no ground game in place for anything beyond Super Tuesday, and it cost her. Obama was able to run up ridiculous margins when if she had simply been better prepared, the delegate count would be much closer right now.

And since I know you probably think I'm full of shit, here's video proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saBU6ux0hsQ

So stop pretending that no one ever said it would be over by then because your candidate arrogantly believed it would be.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #5
33. Fear mongler!!!-------"destroying our party"--
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #5
66. "destroying our party"
and don't forget she's also "destroying the country" and
apparently single handily started the war.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #66
114. Not only that, it was her spirit pre-incarnate which whispered evil suggestions in Hitler's ear.
Sarcasm thingy for some of the DU'ers. :sarcasm:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #66
131. You guys are really fast in packs. Funny how "many" there are of you n/t
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Freedom Train Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #5
72. Obama supporters are the ones destroying our party
And that's why I voted for Hillary in the PA primary.

What makes it even more shameful in your case is that you claim to have been an Edwards supporter.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #72
112. I can't see who you're addressing, but
there are a lot of freeps in here backing Obama and falsely claiming to have been Edwards supporters.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #72
133. LMAO! Because we're supporting the one who is ahead? He DARES to challenge a Clinton?
You people are unbelievable ... I wonder if you even READ yourselves. And stuff the "shame" crap -- that may work as a kneejerk attack for simple-minded people but I write adult fiction for a living. I learned a long time ago about people who use that word to manipulate others. You guys really ARE being very reactive with your talking points, though. I hope Hillary is paying you well.

Thanks for all attacking in one group -- it helps thin out the sock puppets by adding them to my ignore list.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #1
81. what about those of us who can divorce our disgust with mrs clinton from sexism?
are we allowed to show our disgust for her ?
i am disgusted by her as a person not as a woman
my life experience has shown me that women and men are both flawed
so i dont need sexism
most people will give me a REAL reason to dislike them if i just talk to them for a few minutes
hillary doesnt need sexism to be disliked she just has to be herself
shes a complete mockup of a person devoid of human likeability
she has become the political creature we see now stalking arms akimbo into our national nightmare
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #1
104. I don't think it has anything
to do with her being a woman...
Kerry had a lot of pet names as well, I'm sure they all have.
that's part of running for the highest office in the land.
hmmmm... what's that line again.....
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
110. I am still flabbergasted
at the crap the admins and mods have been allowing on DU since the primaries began.

The fact that many of them have confessed to being Obama supporters is absolutely no excuse for the ugly chaos they have fostered here.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:19 AM
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2. It is not OK to call EITHER candidate names.
Unfortunately, some on both sides still do it. That doesn't make any of the names acceptable.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:19 AM
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3. I've never called Hillary names and I never will...
...it gets really out of hand here - but it seems a lot of the insults are provoked from both sides.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:21 AM
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4. Other than "Hilli Vanilli" and "B****"... I haven't seen any of those on DU....
...

I've never called her anything but "Hillary" or "Clinton". I have called her supporters many names, though.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. Unfortunately, there are DOZENS of slurs used here.....
About 90% directed toward Senator Clinton.

Another few used

Liar
Harridan
Sexist
Racist
HillBilly
Billary


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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:37 AM
Response to Reply #12
21. "Liar" is not necessarily a "slur".... not if it is true.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #21
26. But you would be outraged if it were used against Obama, even though it is true
Gun control questionnaire, never heard Wright's statements, etc.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #21
63. "Excuse me, but I don't believe that statement is the truth." is POLITE.
LIAR is an epithet.

If you are of what used to be called "Illegitimate Birth," technically then you are a "bastard" by definition.

If I called you that, I should expect to be slapped.

In the end, your perception of the truth or falsehood of a statement simply made as "'Liar' is not necessarily a 'slur'...not if is is true." fails the test in two ways:

1. this is YOUR PERCEPTION unless you produce DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE of your claim, and I'd be careful with that as both Senators have stretched the absolute truth to the breaking point.

2. an epithet is an epithet. Calling someone "FUCKER" has effects and repercussions, even if you are simply referring to the fact that they have sex once in a while.

As Senator Obama has said, words have power. I'd use that power very carefully.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #12
28. When is someone going to call Obama 'calculating' or 'relentless'? nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #12
79. "Harridan?" You guys are really, really stretching.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 09:11 AM by Occam Bandage
Top 20 hits for "harridan" are directed at Ann Coulter, at MoDo, are in disapproving reference to remarks by Ann Coulter or MoDo, or are simply discussing the word sans political context.

At this point, I think it's fair to say that you're racking your brains for sexist words, and then ascribing them to DUers.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #12
86. how is liar on that list?
she has in fact been caught telling egregious LIES
about bosnia
about nafta

and im gonna go check harridan again because i like harridan best
hang on.......

harridan:noun
a scolding (even vicious) old woman


hmmm she is kinda oldish 61 or 62
and she has openly scolded (SHAME ON YOU)

SO YOUR LIST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO REMOVE BOTH AS THEY CANT BE CONSIDERED SLURS
SINCE THEY ARE TRUE
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #86
118. Yep.
Pretty funny, actually.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #4
30. Take a look....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #30
57. poster is proud of that vile name calling!
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:55 AM
Response to Reply #4
37. Why should any of us engage
in that type of behavior at all?

My mother always taught me that name calling is petulant and childish..And I stood through several meals to prove it! :spank:
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:21 AM
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6. Those names are not "in vogue", quit the victimization
I haven't seen very much of it, almost none, but I don't check every thread. The "conservative" insults I've seen widely, those are very "in vogue."

However, when can we all stop crying about the worst words of trolls and sock puppets?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:53 AM
Response to Reply #6
67. "Monster" was for awhile, you might recall n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:22 AM
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7. I don't call Hillary names, other than a reference now and again
to "queen" because of her apparent sense of entitlement. That's offset by the numerous posts referring to Obama as "saint" or "messiah."
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:22 AM
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8. Yeah, nobody on DU ever calls Obama names
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 07:26 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
:eyes:

"Snobama" "B. Hussein" "Bambi" "Berry" "Obigot"

And the C word has never been allowed on DU. Ever.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #8
14. Heard "Barry," but that's a name he used to use.
Not much of slur. Neither are the others; rude though.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #14
19. Barry really is a slur
when someone wants to be called by his or her proper name, and he is a Democrat, it is proper to use that name. And really, if you don't think obigot or b hussein obama are rude...is it any wonder people call Sen Clinton those names?
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #19
31. I don't think Barry is too much of a slur.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 07:53 AM by DemVet
Supposedly his closest friends still call him that.

I will admit to calling him that on here, however, since I know it irritates the hell out of SOME Obama supporters.

:evilgrin:
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #31
52. It's a "slur" like "Democrat Party" is a slur
"Democrat" is a perfectly fine word. It is only offensive when it is used incorrectly for the purpose of offending.

Personally, I think it would be better to ignore it when someone uses either word.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #19
47. I don't use them.
I call them Senator Obama and Senator Clinton or Obama and Clinton.

I figure I don't know them well enough to call them by their first names, and if someone is being an asshole and using slurs, I'll alert on them. Seem lately to have as much effect as this:

I don't use "Barry" either for the same reason, but if he used it himself...well, some people in my past have called me "Tommy," and I don't exactly love it but it ain't "Asshole" either. Not exactly like calling him prick, liar, or bastard though.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #19
55. It's childish, but not a slur
I saw a television interview with some of Obama's basketball teammates from high school, and they still refer to him as "Barry". I think we should start using it. We're stealing it back.

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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #8
84. Haha...."B. Hussein"
That comes right out of the rightwing Ann Coulter playbook.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:23 AM
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9. Because some Obama supporters are immature and arrogant?
Notice how they fly off the handle when anybody calls them on their crap?
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greenvpi Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #9
39. And they really fly off the hand when ...
you call Obama by his full name. Why? Do the Obama supporters really hate Muslims so much that they'll start childish personal attacks against anyone who hints of an association between their candidate and Islam. I don't get how those idiots can support a candidate but not support the candidate.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:25 AM
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10. Those names are not acceptable (to call Sen. Clinton).
I don't use them and others shouldn't as well. I can be critical of her without name calling. The campaign to paint Obama as a unpatriotic terrorist sympathizer and extreme Black racist radical through others should be denounced as well.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:25 AM
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11. It's not ok, but they do it anyhow and get away with it.
For some odd reason, it is not seen as bad here to call women belittling demeaning names, but God help you if you even call Obama by his initials or call him Barry, which was what he went by as a kid. You'd think the Heavens opened up and God himself was sending legions of haters around to smite you so he wouldn't have to dirty his hands with you. And it's all because she doesn't have a penis. If she did, they'd treat her with respect, like any Democrat deserves.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:29 AM
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15. Call Obama what you want...your choice, you don't need permission..
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:29 AM
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16. I don't like it when either candidate has epithets used against them, nor
do I appreciate "Hill bot" and "Obama bot" insults.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:29 AM
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18. It's not OK
and really, I think we would do well to just discount people who resort to that shit. Some people love to see how far they can expand the boundaries of tastelessness.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:34 AM
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20. It's not OK.
The people that call Clinton names are immature, not too intelligent, insecure, fearful, angry and politically pretty fucking stupid, frankly--they don't "get" how the primary system works, and they childishly want what they assume is "their prize" NOW. They think that name calling will somehow hasten the day where their expenditure of cash, volunteer time, or just sitting in front of the keyboard making fun of Clinton will "pay off." Good luck with that!

There are many Obama supporters who do not behave in this fashion, but it's the assholes one notices. AS always.

Clinton supporters don't do it as often (Barry, or Barrie--which was his preferred name as a youngster, that he eschewed in his college years--is the only one I've seen, and rarely, that), because they're older, more mature, and realize that such idiotic name-calling is simply counterproductive. Also, there are fewer of us here, now, because the place is a bit inhospitable at times.

I think a moratorium on candidate "personal insults," especially the sexist ones (I have never seen any racist ones, but I'd include those, too just for general principle) would be a good idea here.

I don't think it will happen, but I think it would boost the level of discourse.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:40 AM
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23. Well, aren't you the gracious, all inclusive, group hug champion TODAY! LOL
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:44 AM
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24. I have never called Obama anything but his his name or Senator.
Can you say the same about CLINTON?
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:11 AM
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42. As I said, aren't you the angelic Champion TODAY! You're quite special!
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 08:12 AM by ScarletSniper
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:20 AM
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45. I have never referred to him in disparaging fashion. Ever. Can you say the same about Clinton?
All I hear from you is crickets on that score.

But then, that's unsurprising.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:24 AM
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48. I said you're special...what do you want "terrific?" Dang, how about DYNAMITE!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:29 AM
Original message
You don't answer my question, still. Is it damp where you live?
And dark?

I should think so.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:42 AM
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59. You're so special, so wonderful...did I say Dynamite yet? I've been watching you..just Outstanding!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:38 AM
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22. Google says not terribly accurate.
Hilli Vanilli - google fail

Hitlery - 1,650 hits! Yup she has been called that here.

Killery - 2 hits (near fail)

Succubus - perhaps 8 - most hits are referring to somebody named Anne Coulter.

Bitch - 29,600 hits on Clinton bitch - I'll give you that one too.

Cunt - 1,190 hits but they mostly all seem to be discussing somebody calling her that or the fake organization C.U.N.T. there might actually be one or two in there calling her a cunt.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:54 AM
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35. Fuck Google.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 07:55 AM by DemVet
Hilli Vanilli is up on the GDP first page TODAY.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:49 AM
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64. Fuck Google for not inventing time travelling web crawlers!!
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 08:50 AM by Moochy
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:08 AM
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76. The DU search bar up there isn't as useful as actually plugging in
the term and site:www.democraticunderground.com into google. That said, Killery only has 1 actual hit of the 3 Google returns; one seems to be a fuckup (as there is no mention of "killery" on that page), and one is ironic/sarcastic. Every instance of Hitlery I clicked on was ironic in nature; I couldn't find one that wasn't by someone sympathetic to Sen. Clinton.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:16 PM
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124. If Google was accurate and all inclusive...
it would have brought up this post, would it not?
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:47 AM
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25. I think "Barrage Oblammo" Is Okay

We'll see. I'll let you know if my house gets blown up in the next few days.

By the way, you left out "Shrillery," "Clenator Sintown," and "Bill's Secondary Squeeze."
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:49 AM
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27. Because sexism is okay. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:51 AM
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29. Don't forget Matthews' "Nurse Ratched," "Madam DeFarge," and "Lady MacBeth." nt
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:53 AM
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32. Normally the RW calls him Hussein Osama. nt
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:54 AM
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34. BarryHO is kinda cute, not much of an insult
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:55 AM
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36. Sorry, Hilli Vanilli is pretty funny, I have no problem with that...
however the rest are unacceptable IMHO.


Why so upset about Hilli Vanilli?


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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:21 AM
Original message
You might pay a little more attention to working on your
self esteem, and less time posting unflattering photographs of people, and laughing at the name-calling.

It's a sign you have crushing issues regarding your own self confidence.

People who are confident and strong don't behave the way you do.

Okay, now this is the part where you throw a fit and deny you have problems.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:30 AM
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54. No, this is the part where I school you.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 08:51 AM by yourguide
Hillary Clinton has run an UGLY campaign, initially I would have been happy if she was the nominee, I would have been happy if there was a dream ticket...no more, HILLARY did that for me.

This photo is representative of how UGLY her campaign has been, that is how I see her on the inside.

People who are strong and confident stand for what they believe in, period. I believe HRC has run a disgusting low and despicable campaign and until her deplorable tactics change, this image will stand. Even the NY Times feels the same damn way, do you recall the editorial "The Low Road to Victory"?

People who are moronic and blind dont see how ugly her campaign has been or worse, find it acceptable, fair friggin game even.

And if you read my post, I clearly stated all of the other names are unacceptable.

So what's a sign that you have crushing issues regarding YOUR own self confidence, is that you are foolish enough not to see how ugly and disgusting her campaign against a fellow dem has been. You might want to pay a little more attention to the character of the candidate you seem to be defending, you should pay attention to the fact that she is willing to circumvent the will of the voters to get her own way.

Try educating yourself and thinking for yourself, AND try comparing her and her campaign's actions to your basic sense of right and wrong - THAT shows self confidence. Blindly and accepting these actions show lemming like behavior, no self confidence.

Hilli Vanilli is one of the tamer comments lobbed on this board, she is worthy of some of the others mentioned here but as I stated it's not appropriate. So when she runs her campaign in an appropriate and acceptable manner, IE: cleans up her act, I will delete this photo and bring my standards back to where they usually rest. Until then I will continue to see her as ugly on the inside...as she is.


PS: If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.


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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:50 AM
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65. I knew I would force you to unleash. That's good.
First of all, there's no question any standards you possess are shockingly low if it makes you feel better about yourself by posting a photograph you refer to as "ugly."

As handsome as I am, (LOL!) I've cringed looking at some of my candid photos. Everyone takes an unflattering photo.

So, no .. the photo is not representative of an "despicable campaign." You put it up to poke your finger in the faces of DUers who support Hillary Clinton.

I read one of your posts where you bragged about how it bothers them.

You seek joy from other people's unhappiness, and you enjoy making other people unhappy.

And if that's not a sign of low self esteem, it's a sign of someone who needs anger management.

I did not vote for Hillary in my primary, but I refuse to believe she's the monster you and the others make her out to be.



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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:57 AM
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70. It's doesnt make me feel better...
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 09:11 AM by yourguide
What would make me feel better about our country and our party is feeling proud of a fellow dem. Her actions don't make me proud of her, they make me ashamed of her.

All of your other assessments are rubbish.

Of course you "refuse" to believe she's the monster that she is. Again, if you would compare her actions to your basic sense of right and wrong then you wouldn't "refuse" to believe, you'd question whether she does indeed have the good of the party and the nation in her sights. Another example of you not thinking for yourself, or worse, your basic sense of right and wrong is cruelly flawed.

Sorry my friend, you dont know me, I told you why I posted it...if you want to try your armchair 25 cent psychiatry then be my guest but based on your assessment you shouldnt quit your day job.

So yes,to me that unflattering photo is representative of an ugly campaign. That simple.


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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:15 AM
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80. GOOD GAWD ! THAT PICTURE !
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:10 AM
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77. Side note:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:21 AM
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85. Do you know what hypocrite means? There's nothing
hypocritical about those threads.

I've consistently gone after Obama supporters whose mission is to provoke and divide.

But I'm not surprised you're furious, considering you qualify as someone I'm addressing with those OP's.

Did you read the part where I wrote, "what a disgrace."?

That applies to your use of the photograph of Hillary.

Not for one second do I believe it's being used as your sig because it represents an "ugly" campaign.

It brings you joy, which of course, is tragic.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:25 AM
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87. You mean you've consistantly
crapped on Obama supporters. "Boooo hooooo about pennsylvania"? That's what you call unifying and uplifting?

You can believe what you want, but you also seem to believe that HRC has run an appropriate and acceptable campaign.

You pushing the knife in talking about Obama supporters boo-hoo ing PA shows what joy you get by putting obama supporters down.

You my friend are a hypocrite of biblical proportions. People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

What's tragic is your blindness to your own contributions to the divide. Get lost loser.


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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:33 AM
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89. Mission Accomplished.....
Another person who holds dangerous blind allegiance toward Obama calls me a name, and stomps away into the sunset.

I do like your line about being a hypocrite of biblical proportions, because it's something I would write.

It's not accurate, but it's funny.

(Confident people laugh when they're insulted because it's irrelevant what other people think .. especially if they have social problems).
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:38 AM
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91. You're pathetic and blind.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 09:40 AM by yourguide
You are just as bad as the worst Obama supporters:

Ooooh all of their whiney threads. Yeah, that obnoxious comment isnt divisive.

You know what, that picture of hillary is representative of HRC supporters like you.

And it's so obvious who has the confidence issues, anyone who has to continue to assert his own confidence doesnt have it.

Hypocrite hypocrite hypocrite. Again, people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

welcome to my ignore list, you have zero moral ground to stand on...


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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #91
96. No, actually asserting my self confidence is okay in this
situation, because I'm teaching you.

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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:20 AM
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103. The only thing you're teaching me
is that those who are woefully insecure need to continue to assert their self confidence.

and that hypocracy is ok, for HRC supporters.

You have taught me nothing, as you have no moral ground to teach on. The only thing you did was make me more steadfast in my beliefs.

And you call the Obama supporters arrogant. You're nothing more than a hypocrite trying to pose as a psychoanalyst. perhaps you should analyze your own behavior.




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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:38 AM
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113. Excellent job shining some light into ignored's dark world.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:43 AM
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60. What an awful picture


Wrinkled people don't deserve to live.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:44 AM
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62. Has nothing to do with wrinkled.
Has everything to do with how ugly her campaign has been.

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #36
120. wow
someones caking the makeup on a lil thick i think
or is this the picture she keeps in the attic that contains her actual image?
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:56 AM
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38. Are you frickin kidding?
Obama has been openly called 'Osama' by MANY people this election. Nothing trumps that. Tell your gal Hillary to suck it up. If she can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:17 AM
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44. no woman should be told to 'suck up' to those terms!!

your quote!!
......."Obama has been openly called 'Osama' by MANY people this election. Nothing trumps that. Tell your gal Hillary to suck it up. If she can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen........"
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:27 AM
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51. Quit whining
It's not like Obama called her those names. Meanwhile, Hillary dispatches her little minions from Bill Clinton to Geraldine Ferraro to try to make sure that EVERYBODY in America knows that Obama is the scary black man running in this race. Nice timely endorsement by Gov. Ed Rendell reinforcing the 'conservative whites' in PA who aren't ready to vote for a black man. Vote for Hillary, because we should all be afraid of what the Republican Party is going to say about the scary black man. Vote for Hillary, because she can win the white working class vote (obviously much more important than the black vote in her view).

Not getting much sympathy from me. If she can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Obama has never called her those names and he has shown her much more respect than she has shown to him.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:44 AM
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61. NO, I will not put up with those names-including the sexist comments!
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #61
102. then write your Congressman
seriously, one complaint is enough. When did Obama call Hillary those names? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:06 PM
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123. Then I expect to never see you call Obama supporters
"Obamababies" anymore then. Good for you for rising above the fray.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:10 AM
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41. Senator Clinton, Senator Obama...
I have used (and will continue to use) those names in initial reference to the Democratic candidates. I don't know either of them well enough to presume to use their first names, especially in a public venue. I will occassionally be a bit more terse with Senator McCain. Alternatively I might refer to any of them by both first and last names, but without the title: 'Barack Obama', 'Hillary Clinton', 'John McCain'. In following references I may use the last name as a substitute for the more correct 'Mr. Obama'. or 'Mrs. Clinton' (to the best of my knowledge she has not expressed a preference for 'Ms').

The use of slang references, perjoratives or dimninutives seem worth avoiding; they provide nothing beyond the opportunity for offense.

On occassion I will violate those style rules for flourish, such as my dog, Bodhi, exhorting you to 'Vote Barack'. It also seems that Senator Clinton has created a brand for herself with the term 'Hillary', but I still prefer to stand by good style in most cases.

While all of this may seem unbearably stuffy (and might well be), it's the best I can find to avoid being attacked on mode of reference to the candidate rather than what I am saying in reference to the candidate.

Other participants in GD:P are fair game :-).



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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:21 AM
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46. She's evil?
That's why I do it anyway.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:25 AM
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49. The name calling has been coming from supporters of both candidates.
Regardless who is doing the name calling it is childish and immature behavior. This applies to the names being used against the candidates or their supporters. It adds nothing positive to the debate. It only increases the animosity between posters. We ALL need to consider the words we are using and act like adults.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:00 AM
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74. I'm not sure who I will vote for but the insults are more from Obama
fans.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:10 AM
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78. The Obama supporters far outnumber Clinton supporters, so I guess that would
be expected. Regardless, there is no excuse for the supporters of either candidate to resort to such juvenile behavior. I thought we were all adults here, but somedays I have to wonder. You would expect that people who consider themselves to be capable of choosing a President would have a little more maturity and self control than to be involved in the name calling contests we've seen here lately.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:40 AM
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92. Then how come the primary is so close?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:43 AM
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97. I was referring to Obama supporters here on DU, not the overall population.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:08 PM
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144. Me too.
Just because you don't post a lot for Hillary or vote in the polls means little to me.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:26 AM
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50. I agree, all of those names are offensive
I really wish we could end the namecalling here, period. It accomplishes nothing.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:29 AM
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53. Democratic nominee.
It's a slur on the *other* site, I'll bet.

But I won't be upset if you use it over here. ;)
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:32 AM
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56. you're being disingenuous if you think obama hasn't been called names...
but banky will make it all better;
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:35 AM
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58. You are right, sexist terms are wrong
She is not a bitch or a c***




She is a fucking asshole.

I don't care what you call Obama, just don't expect me to ever call that asshole, Senator Clinton, PRESIDENT.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:53 AM
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68. OK...
you caught me, I thought Hilli Vanilly was kinda funny and mostly silly, the rest of them, unacceptable!
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:54 AM
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69. homophobama. nt.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:00 AM
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71. An empty corporate suit?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:00 AM
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73. You know, for all the crying about name-calling, you'd think people were actually calling her those.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 09:02 AM by Occam Bandage
By doing a Google search of site:www.democraticunderground.com, I find no non-ironic uses of "hitlery" (though I admit I only looked at 20 results; maybe the bad ones are hidden there) No persons have seriously called her that.

One person has used "Killery," ever.

One person has used "Hilli Vanilli," ever. I think it's funny, though. Never seen that one.

No persons have called Hillary succubus (every hit for "succubus" was regarding Ann Coulter, or was simply discussing the demon in the lounge.)

Bitch I'll grant you.

No persons have used "Cunt" to refer to Hillary Clinton. Every mention of "Cunt" is either referencing the RW group by the same name, referencing John McCain's remarks, or is talking about the word in some other regard.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #73
100. Aw... are you being a big meanie and ruining the fun for them?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:01 AM
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75. How about corporate whore?
Or even "fucking whore"? Obama's failure to lead in progressive measures could conceivably earn his these titles.
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:17 AM
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82. no no
that's too racist

bill from ct
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #75
93. Yes
But then so is most of Congerss and our President.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:47 AM
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99. Agreed.
While I don't approve of sexism or racism, a certain amount of classism is necessary for clear thought. There are many, many insults that apply to our elected "representatives" and ought not to be dismissed instantly.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:18 AM
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83. How about none
:shrug:

I don't call Hillary names. But there are plenty of posters on both sides that call the candidates names.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:27 AM
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88. How about this picture? This is just fine by Sen. Obama's supporters, but it if was him tied up
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 09:35 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
being burned at the stake, all holy hell would break loose. But, showing this, which is a reference to historical events which left millions of women and girls dead, no problemo.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5677011#5677983

Nice, huh?

On edit, no response, thought so. Sen. Obama supporters much be flush with pride over such a hopeful image.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:33 AM
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109. Nevermind.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 10:36 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
Thanks mods.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:34 AM
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90. It's not
The "Hilli Vanilli" one is new on me and I maintain that the C-word can be used appropriatly (in an intimate setting, between consenting partners) but that aside, calling HRC names is unacceptable. Neither candidate should be insulted, especially with foul language.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:41 AM
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94. In 60 years, when Obama sits, pure white.......,
.....carved out of marble, next to Lincoln on the national mall, you can call him the Ultimate Porch Monkey, and no one will care.




Hey, blame Colbert ;)

:popcorn:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:43 AM
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95. I doubt he will reach any type of status as a hero leader.
So far he won't even demand impeachment and wants to silence the investigation of 911.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:46 AM
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98. I only call Clinton a WarMonger. And so this is substantive...
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:49 AM
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101. It is counter productive to call these candidates out of name... I like HopeMonger rather than a
warmonger. I'd call Obama a HopeMonger if I had to call him anything. I'm a HopeMonger too.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:24 AM
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105. don't forget Hildo..
I lump her in with O'liely now,, who is known in circles as Bildo...Bildo and Hildo, maybe they can have a show and Dennis Miller and Bill Clinton can come on once in a while and ....well...do whatever they do :)
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:31 AM
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108. Don't forget
Hillaruca Salt
Hilita Kruschev
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:34 AM
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111. Oh yippee, another "Sexism" rant thread...
...:eyes:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:42 AM
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115. childish insults directed at HRC are unacceptable, as are childish insults directed at Obama
I've never used one and have called out supporters of both sides who have.

Not that its done any good.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:43 AM
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117. All of them are acceptable...
they just make the name-caller look like a blankety-blank.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:00 PM
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141. It is free speech to be a "blankety-blank" is it not?
Oh I forgot. I live in Neo Con America.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:41 PM
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145. Be my guest.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 03:42 PM by rucky
and keep up the good work. :evilgrin:
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:00 PM
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122. I generally don't like those names
but the one use of Hilli Vanilli on DU was in response to my commment and it made me lol...

My comment was that Clinton supporters are like fans of a terrible but overplayed band, singing the same lyrics over and over again as if everyone having heard it before gave it some sort of authority.

For an example, see: your post.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:07 PM
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126. The Democrat party is a party where women can increase their power and rights if they move to
McCain that will change for the worse.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:06 PM
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142. Republicans seem strange about women.
Were they not great male heroes in high school or what? Women didn't like them, etc.?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:50 PM
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128. Oh, you've done considerably worse than call him "Barry"
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:52 PM
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129. Jug Ears.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:53 PM
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130. Totally agreed from an Obama supporter
The use use of blatantly sexist slang and freeper-derived trash names is contemptible.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:59 PM
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132. REC n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:26 PM
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135. It would help if people just called them by their actual names, but people like to get that dig in.
When you call him Barry you know full well what you're doing, and so do they when they call her names. It's a cheap dig, and only causes more aggravation and division. Both sides need to grow up, and having me say that should be a big red warning light, as I'm not the most grown up person in the world. But compared to some of the people here...

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:52 PM
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140. Who said it was OK? Namecalling is never OK.
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:21 PM
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149. The namecalling doesn't really bother me if it is supposed to be humorous
I love lowbrow humor. "Barry" however, has that sting of calling the capable, accomplished black man "boy" -- especially when used in regular, non-comedic circumstances. Obamatrons, Obamaniacs, Obamanations, Hillaroids, Shillary, Hilli Vanilli (LOVE that one. Gold star to whomever thought that up.) Hitlery is a over the line, but in general, I say keep them coming.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:24 PM
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150. How bout "big fat liar". She has shown she will lie as much as shrub does...
if the shoe fits....
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:45 PM
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151. Obama has a short memory. He doesn't lie but lets others
do it for him.
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