Which Had A Bigger Impact In This Primary: Obama's Race Or Clinton's Gender?

I've see various people who have been unhappy with what they think is people ignoring sexism against Clinton, so I thought I'd test the winds with this question.

Note that I'm not asking how much of an impact you think one or the other has had. I'm only asking which one's impact you think has, to this point, been greater than the other

Overt, or covert racism or sexism? The Clinton campaign tried early on to marginalise Obama as 'the black candidate'; the Obama campaign has never tried to marginalise Clinton as 'the female candidate'. In terms of support, many female voters are supporting Senator Clinton's candidacy on the basis of her gender, because of what it represents for feminism and women's equality, as many African-American voters are supporting Obama in part because of his race (and in part because many of those who had been inclined to view both Clintons favourably were disgusted by the aforementioned attempts to marginalise Senator Obama). In terms of public discussions, there has been a greater tone of overt sexism directed against Senator Clinton from some quarters of the media, especially in the negative gender-based terminology that some people have employed. Which is not to say that there hasn't been racism directed against Obama from some of those same quarters; it's just been more subtle, more covert, less direct (questioning his patriotism and love of country, questioning his religious faith, etc etc...none of which would likely be happening were he a white Episcopalian).

Overall, I'd say that race has been far more an issue than gender, but both have been to some greater or lesser degree present.

I think unconscious racism, particularly in the older demographic (the most active voting demographic in this country), has played a bigger factor.

"The Clinton campaign tried early on to marginalise Obama as 'the black candidate'; the Obama campaign has never tried to marginalise Clinton as 'the female candidate".

candidate.' You know it and Obama knows it. Nice parroting of the Obama campaign and GOP talking points, though.

I just hope you're ready for President McCain because that's exactly who we'll get if Obama is our nominee.

Obama himself has tried to marginalize Hillary Clinton as a woman and you know that, too, but misogyny is A-OK with Obama supporters.

It's a smart strategy, if totally cynical. If the electorate is split between black and white, even in the Democratic Party, the white candidate wins.

What do you think Bill was saying when the reporter asked him what it meant that it took two Clintons to take on one Obama and he responded that Jesse Jackson won both of those states? His implication was clear.

Name one time where Obama has marginalized Hillary as a woman.

I'd suggest not making demonstrably conterfactual statements; it makes you look ridiculous.

There's no doubt that she wouldn't be winning if she weren't a woman.

Which, I suspect, was a factor in her remarks. It's gotten common for a campaign to see where they're vulnerable to such observations and jump out in front by attacking in the foreseen manner.

At least according to the exit polling, gender has helped Clinton as much race has hurt Obama. Both work in her favor.

in the land of bullshit. It's ok for someone like Randi Rhodes to call a prominent senator a "fucking whore", especially in the context of "comedy"(more bullshit), but facing the truth of the situation, if Randi-I'm staying neutral till after the primary-Rhodes, had broken for Clinton, and used derogatory words to describe Obama, using his race to insult him, his fans would not only riot in the streets, but would demand her head on a platter. Instead, they defend, and laud her dispicable actions, thereby proving that sexism is "no big deal", while racism, in their eyes, is an unforgivable crime. Biggest bunch of hippocrites since the bushbots of 2000. Disgusting, to say the least. Thanks.
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(b) It's still sexism when a woman calls another woman mean things? Seriously?

She just seems to have really bad judgment and worse taste.

against Hillary . (Fact)

and any time Hillary gets picked on - women rise up and protest, as where when the race thing comes up, especially Wright, Obama gets slammed for not leaving his church, Wright gets slammed for opening his mouth even when his church has been getting death threats. Black republican pastors trash Wright and he's considered righter than Wright because he's a republican. Media having a hey day with the Wright thing - the women thing just isn't as interesting or divisive.

This country is fucked up!