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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:20 PM
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The Rev. Wright has been labeled a national joke by the high priests
of our sickened national discourse. Like Jesse Jackson (ha!), Al Sharpton (ha ha!), Ted Kennedy (ho ho!), Al Gore (hee hee!), and Jimmy Carter (snort!) before him, the MSM-ites have declared that his very name is a punchline, that no matter what he says he is not to be taken seriously, that he should know that he has been silenced.

Have you all noticed how their eyes bug out with Disbelief! and Anger! that Wright should appear on television and be interviewed and make speeches!! What an Outrage! After he has been Silenced by the corporate media, to have the gall to not just be quiet and stand in the corner and never be heard from again, there's a good little angry person, but to instead stand forward and continue to speak out!

"This hurts Obama!" "Why won't that guy shut up?!" "He's not doing Obama any favors!" "Why won't Obama make Wright go away?!"

You see, the media thinks it controls Who Gets To Talk - and Who Doesn't.

It isn't what Wright says so much that maddens them, but that having decided that he Doesn't Get To Talk - they get absolutely infuriated that he doesn't seem to get it - or won't play their game.

Oh how the animal rages when it doesn't get its way. Imagine - Faux news carried Wright's entire speech to the NAACP Detroit chapter, salivating for another reason to slap its muzzle back on him. When has Faux ever cared about a black preacher, or the NAACP, or anything else, enough to give it 30-40 minutes of uninterrupted coverage?

Three cheers for the Reverend.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:21 PM
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1. After today's clown show, he's a joke at best.
Screw him.

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:23 PM
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2. that's what I like to see!
Tools of the corporate media! Speaking out!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:26 PM
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Having Farrakhan provide security makes him a damn clown
and attention whore.

Screw him. He's trying to tear Obama down. He's McClurkin II.

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:31 PM
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8. I see, it's your overwhelming concern for Obama that motivates
you to agree with our corporate masters that Wright must learn his place.

Did it ever occur to you that CNN and Faux didn't have to put him on the air? He is a pastor, was he never supposed to give another public address?

Oh, screw him, of course. The Beast has decided that He Shall Remain silent, and you agree.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:25 PM
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31. I'm an Obama supporter who's dismayed at what a
wuss he's acting like now.

He needs to get angry, get dirty, and punch Clinton (metaphorically) in the goddamn nose over and over and over.

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:28 PM
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34. His refraining from doing that has been the key to his strength
in this primary. And he has amply signalled that once Hillary is finally done, he will go after McCain with both barrels, using both Logic and Framing against him. I can't wait!

Be patient - Obama's smart enough to know the count is coming down on his side, hang tough for a few more weeks, and then it is GOP Season.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:34 PM
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40. He's had no strength since Wisconsin. Clinton is getting stronger.
He's getting weaker.

He hasn't been a very smart candidate for months now. Calling Indiana a 'tie-breaker' was not something a smart candidate would do.

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:38 PM
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45. I guess your mileage may vary
I was not an Obama supporter to start with, but I've been very impressed with the incredibly intelligent way he continues to campaign, frame, and connect.

He can afford to go easy on Clinton at this point - he probably already knows he has the SDs to reach the magic number, and is parceling them out.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:41 PM
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48. If he had them, he'd roll them all out and end this.
Otherwise, they have a chance to lose their nerve and withhold their endorsement.

No, he's trying to run out the clock.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:24 PM
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3. The audacity!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:26 PM
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4. His racist, hate-mongering sermon where he made Hillary a symbol of AA oppression
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 09:26 PM by Skip Intro

makes me not want to hear another word the guy sez.

He held up examples of AA oppresion and in the end held her, Hillary, up to be a symbol of that oppression.

I'm sorry.

I want nothing to so with that.

And I'm not really sorry.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:00 PM
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15. You're the one that's racst. What did he say that was racist he
never said that blacks were better than whites.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:01 PM
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16. No, you're the one that's blinded by a PR blitz.
Watch the video.

Looks to me like he's got a problem with Hillary's color.

Don't call me a fucking racist.

You don't know a damn thing about me.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:11 PM
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18. The video I saw seemed to imply he didn't have a problem with
ANYONE's color. Nor did he think that anyone else should, either.

I now know this damn thing - your comprehension is not the best.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:16 PM
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20. I know what I heard/saw. Wanna pretend it was something other than it was
well, I guess you gotta be good at that to reach your conclusions.

Happy motoring.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:18 PM
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22. Is it possible you were in a state of altered consciousness at the time?
Half-asleep, or in some kind of drug-induced fog?

Just asking.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:35 PM
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41. No. It is possible I heard what I heard with a clear head and an open mind.
In fact, that is what happened.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:39 PM
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47. Well, all right, I'll play along
Which of his statements would you quote to back up your characterization? Or was it just an overall "feeling" you got from watching Fox News?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:43 PM
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50. Wow, can you not engage in conversation without insluts? Here:
JW: It just came to me within the past few week, y’all, why so many folk are hatin’ on Barack Obama. He doesn’t fit the model – he ain’t white, he ain’t rich, and he ain’t privileged. Hillary fits the mold. Europeans fit the mold. Giuliani fits the mold. Rich, white men fit the mold. Hillary never had a cab whiz past her and not pick her up, because her skin was the wrong color. Hillary never had to worry about being pulled over in her car as a black man driving in the wrong…I am sick of Negroes who just do not get it. Hillary was not a black boy raised in a single parent home. Barack was. Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people.
-----------------------------------------------

The whole sermon concerned African Americans being oppressed for centuries by the white elite. Hilliary is then held up as the current example of the white elite.

Think, dude.

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:18 AM
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52. I see - that was his older sermon, not this new talk to the NAACP
thought we were talking about the same thing . .. .
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:24 PM
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29. I believe that what he said..
was that Hillary did not know what it was like to be black. If I recall Hillary said something about Martin Luther King, not being able to do anything without LBJ..when..well...when some people knew that in 1957 the first law to implement the 15th amendment, the Civil Rights Act, was passed, and that there was a very long struggle to get to 1965 and LBJ. Whatever. Hate whoever you like!!
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 PM
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24. Fuck this shit. Wright is not a racist, you're.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:42 AM
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53. Sorry, you are right, I misunderstood that you were talking about his
earlier sermon - even though you spelled it out clearly here. I was talking about his most recent appearances.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:28 PM
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5. To the MSM, Wright is the archetype of the Angry Black Man.
They can't think of him in any other way.

I was listening to the Lionel Show on the radio this morning -- yes; he usually annoys me, too, but once in awhile he gets it right, and he did this time. He said Wright scares some white people, especially guys like Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson is one of those guys who checks to be sure his car doors are locked when he drives through certain parts of town; and he and his ilk are really afraid of angry black men who yell. So because they are scared they have to make him into a caricature. And they can't figure out why a black pastor could be angry about anything, since after all, hasn't white America made their lives so much better?

Media twits like Tucker and Tweety and Scarborough are clueless.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:29 PM
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6. He should have used better judgment and known better. People are now questioning his motives.
I for one want him to shut up. He has had his 15 minutes. He could have waited till Obama became president and his opinions may have carried more weight and been judged more seriously, now though, he is just "over the deep end". Someone in the media's words, not mine.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:29 PM
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7. You're missing the point. He got his opportunity to fame through
Barack's campaign. Barackcould have, and probably should have denounced his radical rhetoric a month ago, but instead, he compared his relationship with the Rev. to the relationship with his grandmother who raised him, and how does the dear minister pay him back? He stabs him in his back! The dear Rev. is so enjoying the limelight, he's aiding in destroying his loyal froend's campaign in the process.

I don't like it that the media has given Wright the chance to be splattered all over TV for weeks, but he's made himself the news of the day.

Shame on him!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:38 PM
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9. BO cannot escape the simple fact he sat through 20 years of Wright's sermons and socialized with him
without a word of dissent until the media made an issue of Wright's statements.

BO can denounce Wright's statements but he cannot erase the impression that at one time he must have agreed with Wright.

For that I am sadden because as president, BO must find common ground between all segments of the electorate to govern successfully.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:51 PM
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12. ZOMG! But here is a logic question for you:
Is it possible that Obama AGREED with SOME of the things that Wright thought/said and DISAGREED with SOME of them?

Or is it only possible that he AGREED with him 100% of the time and "socialized with him"

OR

DISAGREED with him 100% of the time and did NOT "socialize with him"

Answer carefully.

Bonus question: Do you disagree with Wright's basic contention, that elements of the US government have been real assholes to many people, both in this country and around the world?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:56 PM
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13. Anything is possible including BO attended Wright's church for personal gain and he disagreed with
all that Wright said.

What you and I may conjecture is of no consequence.

IMO what is important is what independent voters believe about the Wright/BO association.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:09 PM
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17. You mean, what our corporate masters want independent voters
to believe.

Maybe the best way to deal with their bullshit is simply to call them on it. Who knows? It's never been tried by a Democrat before, as far as I know.

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:14 PM
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19. I sense you and I are kindred spirits re corporatists. One percent of Americans own over 50% of our
financial wealth and control every major multinational corporation in the country.

They finance candidates from both parties and keep the electorate fighting over divisive, polarizing issues while they use bipartisan support to pass laws that advance the corporatist agenda toward a complete plutocracy.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:17 PM
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21. might I delicately suggest that Obama's association with Wright
is a trumped-up, "divisive, polarizing issue"? Not worthy of distracting us from fighting together against the formation of a complete plutocracy?

I agree with your comment 100%.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:21 PM
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25. I agree re Wright. I wish the primary and GE would focus on important issues like the war, economy,
health care, etc..

I won't be surprised if that doesn't happen.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:21 PM
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27. JW on NAACP is somebody I can listen to for 40 years, you hypocritical bunch!! He says what we
always said here.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:31 PM
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38. I think it is you that can not...
escape the fact that Senator Obama is not Reverend Wright!!
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hans Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:41 PM
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10. He's not a national joke, he's a national treasure. Hans N/T
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:22 PM
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28. He is .. He is treasure. Americans needs to listen to him. JW is exactly what America needs.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:46 PM
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11. I Agree...
And I kind of feel sorry for the people here that just don't get it.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:56 PM
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14. Me too- they guy is brilliant.
I can see why Obama would attend his church and sure- there might have been times when he didn't agree with everything he said but for God's sake-how can people not see what an extraordinary man he is? I just don't get it- even at DU, people are swallowing the MSM spin.

ok - I agree- Wright has an ego problem and maybe his timing wasn't great- but his speeches (and his right to defend himself and his church) have been brilliant.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 PM
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23. And the high priests were the same ones that Jesus constantly derided and/or laughed at
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 10:24 PM by Rabrrrrrr
and/or scolded.

Go Wright!!!


I'm seriously and honestly dumbfounded - stupefied - amazed - at how many DUers... DUers of all people! The ones who are supposed to be independent and critical thinkers and liberal and thinking for themselves!!!... how many DUers let the media dictate what they believe.

One would think that they'd know the media are the enemy, but they're buying the "WRIGHT IS THE ANTI-CHRIST OF ALL ANTI-CHRISTS!!!!!!" meme hook, line, and sinker.

It's really, really fucking sad.

I wouldn't expect the majority of Americans to be smart enough to figure that out, but I really thought DU was populated mostly by the cream of America. Apparently we have just as many brain-addled, media-opinion-addicted, uncritical, herd-mentality jackasses as the rest of the population.

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:26 PM
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32. I'd like to nominate your last sentence for the greatest page
sad though it is.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:29 PM
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36. Thank you!
And yes, it is sad.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:36 PM
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42. Thus spaketh Rabrrrrrr!
:applause:
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:21 PM
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26. Why doesn't he just shut up?
We've been playing his 30-second clips all day for 6 weeks here on FOX News! And now he actually has the gall to speak out and defend himself in context? Rofl what a joke he is. To actually talk about stuff that doesn't make him seem totally evil? How dare he make our arguments look stupid!
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:24 PM
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30. Shut up why?!! HE is brilliant, articulate, and mostly right.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:26 PM
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33. They can't possibly play what he said....
there was way too much truth in that. I don't watch but I'm sure they are being real careful in their picking and choosing which clips to use. I am so over this shit. The "outrage" is pathetic.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:28 PM
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35. Derekj - you should actually read a post before you comment on it.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 10:39 PM by Rabrrrrrr
You're embarrassing yourself.



on edit: I took stilcool47's name which in my tiredness I stupidly added.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:30 PM
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37. Agreed - just because someone doesn't always use the
sarcasm tag is no reason not to read carefully.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:31 PM
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39. Yet another sign of the number of doofus, knee-jerk jackasses in this country and world.
And sadly, they're Obama supporters. I'm thankful they are, yes - but saddened all the same that even the Obama camp has people who react even though they have no actual data to warrant that reaction.

:eyes:

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:36 PM
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44. Well, to be fair, I've missed sarcasm before
it kind of depends on your inner voice as you read posts, you know? But care is always a good thing.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:36 PM
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43. I am not embarrassed in the least!!
Are you? Here is the post I responded to...

Why doesn't he just shut up?

We've been playing his 30-second clips all day for 6 weeks here on FOX News! And now he actually has the gall to speak out and defend himself in context? Rofl what a joke he is. To actually talk about stuff that doesn't make him seem totally evil? How dare he make our arguments look stupid!

.....and this is my reply.....
They can't possibly play what he said....

there was way too much truth in that. I don't watch but I'm sure they are being real careful in their picking and choosing which clips to use. I am so over this shit. The "outrage" is pathetic.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:38 PM
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46. I am so fucking tired.
And yes, also embarrassed. :blush:

Jesus, I knew it when I read your post, but by the time I hit reply, I forgot.

Seriously, I'm about 30 minutes past my bedtime...

sorry!!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:41 PM
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49. No Problem...
shit happens...:hi:
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:44 PM
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51. I like....
....Rev. Wright....he tells it like it is....and I think he's doing a great job telling it like it is....

"It isn't what Wright says so much that maddens them, but that having decided that he Doesn't Get To Talk.."

....I totally agree....they've decided he shouldn't speak any more because they already have enough 'Wright-speak' to sling at Obama and we don't need to further confuse the voters....

....but he can say things and speak to groups that Obama and the campaign can't; he can apply pressure by drawing attention to the fascists and make them respond....

....and to deflate that corporate media's cherry-picked impression of Rev. Wright (which they want to regurgitate every day until election day) the more speeches he gives the less negative impact any one speech can or will have....

....all Obama has to do is keep repeating Rev. Wright doesn't speak for him or his campaign and the public will eventually get tired and bored of the endless corporate coverage of Rev. Wright, then the repugs will lose that big stick to club Obama with....

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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:54 AM
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54. The GOP is pissed off that Wright is
ruining their plans of using the sound bites they strung together to play over and over and over again to destroy Obama.

The squeaking and squalling and squealing 24/7 over Wright is just desperation over the fact that the GOP is NOT going to face Hillary in the GE, but will have to face Obama.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:57 AM
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55. Even Keith Olbermann seems flabbergasted by The Reverend's latest antics.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:59 AM
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56. Wright has been made a national joke by Wright.
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