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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:25 PM Original message |
If Clinton can't beat Obama... then Obama is more "electable". |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. The primary and the general election are two very different things. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Hillary is more popular with the party. Obama gets independents and crossovers. (nt) |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. but she's the former first lady of one of the most popular Dem presidents and a US Senator from NY |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Exactly... she had it "in the bag" and blew it. How is that "electable"? |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It's electable because she says so... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Obama attracts more Independents and Independents sway elections - as they did in 2006. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. This entirely overlooks the unelectability of McCain. Never in the |
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PlanetBev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. Media phrase rears it's ugly head again |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Well MSNBC said so... and why would they lie? |
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candelovsky (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Very well then, let's argue that. |
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candelovsky (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. I didn't say Obama was less electable |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. a classic logical fallacy... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Nice. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I'm serious |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Outrage? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
13. it's this kind of "logic" that get O-ists called naive. nt |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. Kind of funny how that works, huh? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I can't wait till December. |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Aw, mom! |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. FACT: More Americans have voted for Hillary Clinton than have for Barack Obama. Get over it. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And some of them are in Mich and Fla, and they still don't count |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yep and she has been behind all the way through. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. MSM spin my butt....Do the demographics and count the red states Obama "won".... |
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terrell9584 (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. The flaw with that theory is |
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anamnua (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. Only a wilfully self-deluded Obamaton who has |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
27. It makes sense. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. why? He still has a gazillion more dollars to spin this in his favor. |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
29. They say she's more electable in some states because she won the primaries there |
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