OMG! Have you seen how much the MSM OWNS and who they obviously want as president?

I knew some of these companies supported Bush, but I did not realize the amount of money they've thrown behind him. It's no wonder our Democratic candidates are bashed, hounded, "stripped-search," and "water-boarded" by the media. I was listening to MSNBC this morning and all I heard was how Obama couldn't put Rev. Wright behind him and it was crushing him. :wtf: It's the MEDIA that can't put it behind him and while we ALL know this and talk about this constantly here, what are we doing about it? It doesn't matter who the nominee is. With these power-players throwing this much cash around, much less their front-and-center "reporting", how can we ever get fair coverage much less a fair election?

Good grief. :argh:
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Who owns CNN? or MSNBC? ABC?
by systemfailure Wednesday, Apr. 09, 2003 at 1:43 AM

So ya think we have a "free press" eh? Check out who owns who, and who owns what you think.......




GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)

Television Holdings:
* NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households.
* NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
* CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).
The "MS" in MSNBC
means microsoft
The same Microsoft that donated 2.4 million to get GW bush elected.

Other Holdings:
* GE Consumer Electronics.
* GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
* GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
* GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains.
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WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than:
Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)

Television Holdings:
* CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200 affiliates in the US.
* CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
* Country Music Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
* Group W Satellite Communications.
Other Holdings:
* Westinghouse Electric Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
* Westinghouse Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
* Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance.
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VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC.
Television Holdings:
* Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime, The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance Channel (joint owner), Flix.
* 20 major market US stations.
Media Holdings:
* Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video, Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks.
* Simon & Schuster Publishing.
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DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign)
Television Holdings:
* ABC: includes 10 stations, 24% of US households.
* ABC Network News: Prime Time Live, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America.
* ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%), as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E!
* Disney Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television.
Media Holdings:
* Miramax, Touchtone Pictures.
* Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W, Discover.
* 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers.
* Hyperion book publishers.
* Infoseek Internet search engine (43%).
Other Holdings:
* Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas.
* All Disney Theme Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines.
======================================================

TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to GW's 2000 campaign)
America Online (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history.
Television Holdings:
* CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
* Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
Media Holdings:
* HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
* Music: Atlantic, Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) = the world’s largest music company.
* 33 magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD Magazine.
Other Holdings:
* Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta Hawks, World Championship Wrestling.
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NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
Television Holdings:
* Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households.
* Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
* The Golf Channel (33%).
MEDIA HOLDINGS:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight.
* 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
* 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard.
* HarperCollins books.
OTHER HOLDINGS:
* Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
* Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
* Rupert Murdoch: Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).

*(Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000)*




http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php

Enjoy your stay. :)

Maybe this is a case of 'you should be paying attention' that Hillary mentioned.

24/7... why report thenews when you can make it?

where the hell do you get off? HILLARY is one who is being lifted to "God-like" status by the MSM, only to be dropped like an atom bomb, IF she gets the nomination. They want her bad, so McCain will have a clear shot to the WH.

And as far as "paying attention," it seems to be over-rated since it goes in one ear and out the other here and in the REAL world.:eyes:

:spray:

"where the hell do you get off?"

Why do you want to know about my sex life? Are you a pervert or something? :rofl:

I see...I didn't realize that I was dealing with someone who was off their meds this morning.

I'll. Try. To. Spell. It. Out. Better. Next. Time. That. Is. If. You. Can. Comprehend. It.

Sure.

You've got the end result right, you've got your candidates confused.

we get "bash Obama" all day and all night. MSNBC has lifted Hillary to a pedestal so high that even her boyfriend, Joe Scarborough, can't reach--and he's just sick about it:eyes:

Between Tweety swooning and Olberman drooling, it's absurd.

What, you want them to wear Obama 'gear,' too?

Scarborough was embarrassed by a VILLAGE VOICE article that called him out for his outright bias. And since Mika is an Obama fan, as is her poppa, the network insisted he take the counterpoint view. They're BLEEDING viewers, and many of them aren't inclined to go back.

Here's the article. Don't believe me, call the VV a bunch of liars: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0814,bruise-brother,396288,1.html/1

Despite Clinton's recent wins, Scarborough's fellow MSNBCers have kept up their bruising treatment of her. Chris Matthews started things off with a roundhouse blow in January, when he said that she had become a senator and had a shot at the presidency only because of her husband's infidelities. More recently, Matthews has been beating the drum for Clinton's withdrawal as if it has become of a test of her honor. Even the network's usually most detached reporter, David Shuster, got into the Clinton-bashing when he wondered aloud whether the Clintons were "pimping out" daughter Chelsea, costing him a two-week suspension. Tucker Carlson declared that he found Hillary so "castrating" that he "involuntarily" crossed his legs whenever she came on TV, a reflex that neatly contrasted with the "thrill" that Matthews said he felt creeping up his leg whenever Obama spoke.

Meanwhile, Keith Olbermann (who, it must be pointed out, occasionally invites this writer on his show) tried for months to stay above the scrum, but lately has been taking on Hillary night after night—never trash-talking like his teammates, but eventually deriding Hillary in one of the "Special Comment" editorials he'd previously saved for acts of war and official treachery.

Yet as punishing as each of these voices has been, it's Scarborough—the man for all time slots—whose partisan background makes his Clinton hatred worth examining more closely. The six-foot-four, 220-pound ex-quarterback is so versatile that he has replaced, years apart, both Phil Donahue and Don Imus in the network's lineup. When he was hired in 2003, the network positioned him as its prime-time conservative counterpoint to Fox, but now he's MSNBC's morning table-setter and election-night leader. It was on Morning Joe that Chris Matthews delivered his comment that Hillary's political career was merely a result of her husband's betrayal. (Scarborough later proclaimed the outcry that resulted in Matthews's coerced apology for that remark "outrageous.") And it was on Joe's show that Shuster had to make his own mea culpa. But Joe himself landed a telling uppercut in January: He declared that the Clintons were "at war against African-Americans, and now they are at war against the Democratic Party."

The only other time that Scarborough played a role in MSNBC's presidential coverage, in 2004, he praised John Kerry's early debate performance while a member—not the leader—of its post-debate panels. But he subsequently boasted that he was "the first political commentator to call this race for Bush following the third presidential debate." Meanwhile, in a single month he devoted parts of 16 shows to the so-called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and their attacks against Kerry.



Read the whole thing. It's several pages, and illuminating.

"The six-foot-four, 220-pound ex-quarterback is so versatile that he has replaced, years apart, both Phil Donahue and Don Imus in the network's lineup."

I can't stand Scarborough. He blows like the wind--and his latest pay raise. I watched his shit calls on election night 2004. He's ridiculous and shouldn't even be on MSNBC.

As far as Chris Matthews, "Tweety", needs to stay on his meds. His ADHD and spitting makes it hard to watch him. And each day is a "new" day for him.

KO, was everybody's favorite here until he started supporting Obama. It is what it is.

As far as the others:Andrea Mitchell, Pat Buchanan, Tim Russert, Tucker Carlson, and the list goes on, they are RALLYING behind "their" girl. Andrea Mitchell is in love with Hillary.

I think Rachel Maddow is by far the fairest and most intelligent of the whole lot.

but their pseudo-support of her now is overwhelming--that is, until the GE.

So they assigned the "obvious" Republicans to the chore, to give the Obama supporters a cadre to rail against.

I really don't want to go there with the Hillary bashing. I'm pretty fair and even though I do support Obama, I was on the fence for a long time. In the end, it's a Democratic presidency that we want. It's a waste of time to continue the useless bantor of "he's better/she's better" and it doesn't get us any closer to getting the price of gas down.

This thread wasn't a "bash Hillary" thread. It's a "wake-up call" thread in that we need to see how bad the media manipulates the outcome. I've known, you've known it, and many here have known it, but sometimes a quick slap in the face jars one out of complacency.

But GE does BRING GOOD WARS TO LIFE, and they will be touting McCain as soon as we have a nominee. After all, it wasn't a GORE button that Russert was wearing on the back of his lapel at the Al Smith dinner, was it?

GE's propaganda arm will be out in full force against one or the other once the selection is made.

:hi:

P.S. Ignore button is my friend on DU and I use it a lot lately! Maybe you should try that too!

That Obama guy had injected new life into the party.

Hillary? Not so much :rofl:

Who couldn't even bother to vote? :rofl:

HRC ain't drawing the crowds like Obama and she is not getting new people registered and involved like Obama.

Laugh it up. Your girl is toast and you focus on one person. I can see why your candidate is toast. Bad focus, foolish supporters.

At least this one. I don't come here to bash Hillary--even though she's put out enough crap to bash about. But when their "supporters" start the cynical-Hillary-is-better-because-and-I-am-woman-hear-me-roar, shit, then yes, once again, "bad focus, foolish suuporter."

So that explains why she has dropped out of the race. :sarcasm:

Yep toast

She is staying in because she has loaned her campaign millions and needs to make it back so she can pay herself. NOT :sarcasm:

So sorry you're having a bad week with your candidate and feel the need to post irrational drivel. Maybe next week will be better. :rofl:

I know you have links to back up what you say about Hillary's campaign, and current links, not the old ones about the 5 mil.

I have not had a bad week with Hillary, she has overtaken Obama in the polls nationally and in Indiana and in some polls in NC. Looks like Obama has had the bad week after disowning the Rev. Wright...which he said he could never do. Lie much Obama? Make politically convenient moves much Obama?

:hi: :rofl:

Links are all over here about Kantor's connections with Clinton and the elitist, racist thing he said, knowing full well the camera was running, so throw in ARROGANT along with stupid.

What was Obama's excuse for listening to his racist preacher for 20 years? What was Obama's excuse for making his children sit in this church and be exposed to such racist hatred? What made Obama only recently distance himself from His preacher? Political convienence.

The Kantor issue happened during Bill's campaign. Now, Obama supporters say Hillary cannot take any credit for the good things that Bill accomplished as president but, being the good hypocrites they are, it is OK to blame her for any wrong or slight that happened with Bill, his campaign or his presidency.

It is HILLARY's issue. Nice try

Did you see the lovely parting gifts?

Vanna, show the gifts...

Did Kantor preach his hate everytime he got in front of a mic, a pulpit, or an audience?

That is the difference between Kantor and Wright. Wright makes his living preaching racist hate and Kantor doesn't.

Changing subject does not change facts. Sucks, doesn't it?

controlling what, as long as your gal wins. Be careful what you wish for, is my advise to you. Finally, and I know it must be difficult, but try not to be so condescending. Perhaps prior to this primary you might not have found favor with this 'old news' either.

I said this was old news. How many freakin' times have Obama supporters chimed in on a thread with, "this has already been posted", "You wasted a post on that?", "Try something new, this is old news."

As far as condescension goes, you and a couple of others OWN it on this forum.

thinking it's A-OK because it's old is a little old media trick. I can still get angry at things I find unjust regardless of how 'old' they are. Isn't that what the m$m said about the Downing Street Minutes, and then refused to discuss them further?
'Old' doesn't mean it's less unjust in my book; so sad that you don't have a problem with it. But I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Clinton was being lambasted, you'd be piping up with a whole new pov.

Show me one thread I started complaining about it......Just one. You cannot, because I know spouting off here accomplishes little compared to making my point of view known to the ones that are actually guilty of bias.
There is activism and there is talking in an echo chamber. Which one do you choose?

this wasn't a "bash Hillary" thread, but a thread that put an attempt at showing ONCE again, during an election season, that the media controls the outcome. YOU made it a "bash Hillary" thread.

Wow!! :rofl:

You would do far better directing that outrage at the media that has wronged you, not me.

and you clearly have a problem with reality.

in the past couple of days than I used to. Also, do you think an armchair psychiatric diagnosis abput someone you have never met in person has ANY validity? :rofl:

The only people I see with a reality problem here are those calling a movie clip that has been doctored, proof of something nefarious. That is out of touch with reality.

the Media for our own good or succeed with it against us while creating alternatives.

Most of them encourage direct participation!

But, it's only a beginning.

:rofl:

Some people are so full of shit.

This is part of the 'emerging alternative'.

Laugh if you must, but, the types of two-way communication which are happening here on the Internet scare the
hell out of the Corporate Media and their masters.

That... and it's the other part of the First Amendment in action.

I see what you mean. Thanks for making what you mean clearer:hi:

Media consolidation was already horrible when Bill Clinton took office.

It got steadily worse, without even token opposition or significant anti-trust movement by the "populist" Clintons. It culminated with the Telecommunications deform Act of 1996.

Hillary really knows.:sarcasm:

They also seem to be off their meds this morning.

:puke:

Somehow I don't think reporting the truth to the American people is at the top of their agenda.

What we have is the Ministry of State Sponsored Propaganda.

They really don't want Obama around anymore.

Hillary and McCain have shown their willingness to play along.

Clinton is a corporatist, while McCain is actually somewhat skeptical about consolidation.

So either one would continue the favorable political climate for them, with a few occasional moves against them.

nt

The media is so off the rails and this ownership pattern is why.

this, perhaps will can effect some changes in this country finally....

and the people have to listen and care for it to change. Otherwise, it's more of the same.

BTW, love the pic of the cat:)

We have been trying for years since the 2004 election and the swiftboaters... :hi:

Rev Wright isn't even the BEGINNING of what they'll say about Obama. They don't give a flyin' fuck if it's true or not either. It's all about what they can make stick to him.

And they will lie. They will cheat. I know of one family that beats those attack back each and every time, and it's the Clintons.

They assembled much of this power during the 90's.

Believe it or not, John McCain has actually been more active against media consolidation that the Clintons.....That's not defending McCain, because he's bad about it too in many ways. But the Clintons presided over a period when the media consolidated and enjoyed deregulation to an unprecedented degree.

MSNBC is sooooo in the tank for Obama that they might as well endorse him. I stopped watching that sorry excuse of a network quite a while ago thanks to their continual Hillary bashing.

HIllary should quite out of shame -- oh that's right, Clintons have no shame.

:thumbsup:

whatever...