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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:02 PM
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Rec this thread if you're sick of the "regular people/real Americans" talking point bullshit.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 05:49 PM by Cant trust em
I am so sick of the implication that just because I'm not white/working class, that I am somehow irregular. Apparently I am a strange oddity of a person that is ripe for scorn and disdain. I am the object upon which political points can be scored.

I live in a big city and went to college. I work in an office instead of a coal mine. So sue me. Am I supposed to apologize for liking nice coffee? Good lord, can the MSM please stop talking about me like I'm some kind of a mutant or something?
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:04 PM
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1. white working class
is that the same group that gave us 20 years of Reagan-Bush-Bush?
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:08 PM
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2. Just regular folks.
There's just regular folks, downtown folks, strollin' up the sidewalk, baseball mitt hangin' off the end of their bat, rollin' a hoop, just aw-shuck folks, cleanin' their guns, you know, chitlins we call 'em - folks who'd as soon fix your transmission as bake you an apple pie, and when you went around to the kitchen window to grab that pie, you'd get a playful twist of your nose! Just everyday folks, uncomplicated, rockin' back and forth on the porch, listenin' to the wind and the sound of the grubs. Kinda like cousin Dan or Mabel from the post office - just country folks, not too smart, but plain speaking, coffee drinkin' folks.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:34 PM
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10. Yup. I reckon.
Those people are totally worth more politially than I am.

Under the bus I go.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:46 PM
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24. Do you mean...
"Friendly greetin', Sunday go-to-meetin' - just plain folks!
Bible readin', pork chop eatin' - just plain folks!
Stew on the table, mule in the stable - just plain folks!"?

Yeah, I'm tired of it.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:10 PM
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3. word
K&R
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:11 PM
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4. there's alot of people that work in offices
and like Starbucks - and alot of them aren't liberal either.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:17 PM
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5. A kind of reverse elitism
Everybody in America is not "working class". Some people are out of work, and they are not working class. Not everybody is white and Christian, and not everybody lives in a quaint, homogenous Midwestern small town.

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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:22 PM
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6. The MSM? Obama's wife called us regular people
the other day, I take it she means uneducated, honest people that work for a living and aren't packed in the city like sardines. As opposed to limousine liberals, that live in crime ridden cities and think guns cause crime and if you get your hands dirty you're not as good as they are..
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:31 PM
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7. I'm sick of all the 'heartland' crap too. What's that make us coastal types that subsidize them?
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:33 PM
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8. E Pluribus Unum-Just Words
Edited on Fri May-02-08 05:35 PM by bronxiteforever
k & R
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:33 PM
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9. white working class male here thinking the same thing.
It is unbelievable how they skew stories to their benefit..
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:39 PM
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11. Well actually, the question should be, do we want a regular, average joe running the Whitehouse??
I say HELL NO! I want the smartest one of the bunch,
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:48 PM
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13. I've asked myself that question many times. Why would I want a president like me?
Do I want a president who goofs on DU when he/she should be working? No!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:47 PM
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12. It's a tangent of "anti-intellectualism" ideology, which has a right-wing bent in this country
You can read a summary of it's history here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:48 PM
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14. I got nothing against regular people or real americans
whatever the fuck they are. What I resent is wealthy educated political candidates acting and talking like dumshits in order to appeal to tweety's stereotype of "real" americans. It was bad enough for bush to pull this fake rancher act for 8 years but it sounds even more asinine to hear Hillary talkin' about shootin' and fishin' in order to make the dumshits think she is one of them.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:10 PM
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15. Tweety's stereotype of "real" Americans
Fat, white, Catholic guys named Frankie and Lenny, 45ish, who live in Allentown and Pittsburgh.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:18 PM
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16. Yeah it sounds like nationalist facist bullshit to me
It's code for WASP beer drinkers. And these coifed out of touch millionaire dipshits going on about it is especially ironic. But really they use it as a wedge between workers and their interests - "He drinks wine instead of beer, he couldn't possibly have a better solution to your problems... I drink beer on my Yacht that I bought off the profits of indenturing your grandchildren to my corporate masters... but I drink beer." Beware the "others" that aren't like you is what this says. I hate the phrase.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:21 PM
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17. But what KIND of beer.
No snooty, full of flavor microbrews for me. Thank you.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:23 PM
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18. If you think you're more of a "real" American than people who drink fancy coffee
you might just be an elitist yourself.

This "real" American spin was disgusting crap whipped up by the RW in the 2004 election to make Kerry seem like an elitist next to Bush. It went conveniently hand-in-hand with the anti-intellectual frenzy they stirred up. I expected it from them, but now I'm seeing it from the Hillary camp. I never thought I would see this stuff coming from Democrats. Very disappointing.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:26 PM
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20. Coming from Dems makes me sad.
Morever, it lends credibility to the argument the next time a GOP member wants to use it.

They can say "See? It does exist. Even one of their own said so."
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:24 PM
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19. I actually belong to the 'white working class' group
that these assholes are trying so hard to stereotype. We are just as diverse as any other group. Working amongst cooks I've seen my share of 'typical' schlubs, but I have discussed history with fellow cooks with doctorates. I have discussed religion with fellow cooks studying for ministry degrees, I have worked with people with degrees in English, Fine Arts, Theater, and Psychology. I have no degree because I saw these people were in debt to their eyebrows and were still working in restaurants, so I decided to eliminate the middleman and become a cook... after many years of apprenticing to master chefs, I feel I'm a damn fine one, AND SMART AS ALL HELL, because I have talked, argued and raved with so many educated adults and never gave up reading, researching and learning.

Today we discussed The recent Quake swarms and the volcanic implications for the west coast. everyone had some insight and information.

And you know what? We all like a good coffee. Can't blame us for having some sophistication.

I resent that they are trying to play us by class and color. Many of my friends work in offices or have their own buisness. I would never judge them just because they were successful in making a living in a different way than myself.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:31 PM
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21. DU is full of elitists and elitist thinking.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:42 PM
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29. that's why no one in the political mainstream would touch us with a 10 foot pole
The nutty netroots get derided at every turn.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:39 PM
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22. I'm also tired of "working families" and
"working people". I make a very nice income and I bust my ass to do it. But by the class definition, many would not consider me "working people". I'm tired of this crap.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:41 PM
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23. getting sick of "ghettoization", too.
chris matthews just used it again on hardball, in addition to calling white working-class the "regular people".

what are the rest of us, mutants? mud people?

wtf!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:08 PM
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26. Matthews thead here. Make some noise.
email links to Matthews and also MediaMatters.

MediaMatters has petitions to MSNBC re: both his racist and sexist piggishness.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5788080&mesg_id=5788080
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:39 PM
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28. Reading that was what inspired this thread
:puke:
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:48 PM
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25. Turn it around
Edited on Fri May-02-08 06:49 PM by loyalsister
Just call them "the majority."
I try to do that. Trying to make people think a little.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:22 PM
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27. If the Journalists would have done their job, we wouldn't be in Iraq
They're useless. I'm white working class from the a big city, and I know they're not talking to me ....I can think for myself.
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