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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:59 PM
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Bill Clinton's dalliances are a security risk; you had better believe we are going to bring them up.
From Wikipedia:

In April 1996, Lewinsky's superiors relocated her job to the Pentagon because they felt she was spending too much time around Clinton.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky#Scandal

This apparently got so bad that some other officials had to step in because they were probably wondering if Monica Lewinsky was some sort of a spy. I don't think Monica is a spy, but do you honestly think that Putin or most all of the other leaders who want to know more about us than we want them to know doesn't take this sort of thing into consideration?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:01 PM
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1. Oh God. Please let this primary be over.
nt
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:24 PM
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51. No kidding. If everything is fair game, that means drug use is too.
Let's not go down that road, people.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:02 PM
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2. CLOWN/nt
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:02 PM
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3. Lol... Ok what the hell does that word mean dalliances? Never heard it before. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:03 PM
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5. Affairs/nt
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:04 PM
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6. Thanks, I learned something new today... Never heard it before.. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:06 PM
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10. You Are Welcome
Hell, Jimmy Carter was the only Democratic president in my lifetime who didn't have an affair...


John Kennedy , God bless him, was (unkowingly) sharing a girlfriend with mob boss, Sam Giancanna...
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:05 PM
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7. I'm from Chicago. It means "the alliances" here. Two words in one. n/t
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:12 PM
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22. BWAHAHAAHAHAH Big Shoulders and garbage trucks.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:05 PM
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8. It's how prissy old ladies with blue hair say "fucking." n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:08 PM
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15. Comparing LocoZocollo With "Prissy Old Ladies With Blue Hair" Is An Assault On That Demographic
For shame...
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:10 PM
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17. Yes, at least those prissy old ladies make wonderful cucumber sandwiches.
I haven't yet seen Loco do anything useful or interesting.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:30 PM
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30. You guys, you guys are a trip.
You make all these jokes (you are a funny guy eh) but you do not address the issue which is serious. Like this is all a game.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:43 PM
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32. Address What
Saying Bill Clinton is/was a philanderer is like saying water is errrrr, wet...Anybody who belueves that is a cardinal flaw won't vote for him or his wife... I susepect that's the case since he first became Arkansas Attorney General...
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:46 PM
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33. Yes, somebody let the cat out of the bag long ago
when it comes to Willie's Wayward Wang. I don't think anyone is going to be much surprised to hear about it now, and the only people who find the subject interesting anymore are freepers and Obamatistas, two groups that it is getting harder and harder to tell apart.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:51 PM
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37. If my point was just that people wouldn't like that he has affairs, then it would be wrong.
People kind-of liked that he had women on the side, it seems. His approval rating shot up after Monica Lewinksy was revealed. I'm not talking about that.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:50 PM
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36. Did you read the post?
It goes on from there. Yes everybody knows that Clinton has had affairs. OK then how does that leave a Hillary Clinton administration vulnerable. Yes it's in the post. OK everybody should read it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:55 PM
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40. I Don't Think The National Security Angle Will Get A Lot Of Mileage
I would think it would only be a risk if people didn't know he was a philanderer and he was threatened with being exposed...

Suggestion- why don't you look through McSame's dirty laundry... He's a self professed adulterer....
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:58 PM
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43. I don't care about McSame.
I don't think he'll win as long as Obama is nominated, which is most likely.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:15 AM
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55. It's a nice term for swinish rutting
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:03 PM
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4. Aside from that.... it shows a huge abuse of power... sexual harassment.


Lewinski was his subordinate employee... and her employer had sex with her in the workplace. Then he got caught and lied about it, waged his finger in the face of the american public and said he did not have sexual relations with that woman... ms lewinski.

Had someone in the Obama campaign had this history of sexual harassment and creating a hostile work environment, hill followers would be demanding he be fired and Hill would be demanding that Obama disavow and reject his words and his actions repeatedly.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:07 PM
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12. Yeah, and don't forget the bold faced lie " I never had sexual relations with that woman".
I gave him much more than the benefit of the doubt with that era.... He really is obviously a serious scum bag.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:07 PM
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13. U know it makes me think that all scandals have a life. this one
is dead. but why? I would guarantee that he has fooled around since Monica.
Don't you think that the powers that be probably have film - if she were
to win - they will release?

Talk about electability - that would be the end of our hopes - coupled with the
fact that half the people said they would never vote for her (zogby 10/07)
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:12 PM
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20. I know that rumors suck, but there was one out there awhile back that he has...
had plenty of fool arounds and that there is proof just waiting to present itself at the right time.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:12 PM
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23. I don't recall Monica Lewinsky claiming that she was sexually harrassed.
Maybe you should give her a call and tell her.

O8)
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:06 PM
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9. .."you had better believe we are going to bring them up."

By we, do you refer to the McCain campaign, the RNC, or what?

:banghead:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:06 PM
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11. No, the Bush campaign.
We are running for a third term.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:07 PM
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14. He and the other freepers? n/t
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:11 PM
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18. do you have to be a freeper to care about it? My blood flows dem
and I think, personally he's a piece of shit - good president though.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:14 PM
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25. Was John Kennedy A "Piece Of Shit"-God Bless Him
His sex life was as equally reckless as Bill Clinton starting with him losing his virginity in a Harlem brothel...
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:14 AM
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54. yes, I guess so. We just didn't live through it and see the lies.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:09 PM
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16. I think WE dems should do it - that is - if we care about winning the WH.
but it's a no-no off-limits here. To me, it's one of the big
elephants in the room - of course aside from half the people
hating her and that she can't win according to all custom,
rules, and fairplay.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:12 PM
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21. We Can Talk About Clinton's Penis All You Want
From accounts in the media it is of normal length and bit below normal in girth...About six inches in length and about the size of a half dollar in circumference; about the size of a cigar...

I got that from Imus...
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:48 PM
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35. If we cared about winning the White House,
we wouldn't have let Oprah and the corporate news industry stick us with two of the very weakest of the candidates we started with.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:21 PM
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27. Good Catch
I believe that's what they call a Freudian slip...
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:11 PM
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19. Bill isn't the candidate.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:13 PM
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24. He will be in the White House and have access to like everything. n/t
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:57 PM
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41. Doesn't work that way. He will not be the President.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:17 PM
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26. Well, Bill DID get caught with his pants down...
at least it was a literal issue rather than a figurative one... at least, in theory...
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:21 PM
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28. Dimwhit Monica was no more of a security risk that I am!
The Pubs will bring this back at their own peril!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:24 PM
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29. They won't because of the taxpayers money
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:34 PM
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31. You miss the point. It's not about the Monicas, it's about blackmail vulnerability
Not the kind where someone demands a suitcase of money, but the kind where someone brings pressure for changes in decisions. Such pressure can create security issues, or more likely, corrupted governance, when the "decider" is the president.

Kennedy was pressured in unsavory ways because he thought with the wrong head too often. Depends on which biography you read how bad the problem was.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:47 PM
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34. FDR And LBJ Also Had Dalliance(s)
We shouldn't be hyporcritical...
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:59 PM
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44. I didn't miss the point. I know the thought process behind blackmail.
With the Monica thing however, it's mute. The threat is we will out your actions if you don't do what we ask, but the Monica story, as with several others, is already out there. It's no longer relevant.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:54 PM
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39. Bill's misadventures forced him to lie face to face to the American people
Monica had become a security risk and an embarrassment that endangered
the office of the Presidency all the way to the oval office.

Now the Clintons' lying, and yes, you get both of them with their candiancy,
will be taken into account by the voting public. Its the lying get it?
Its the foolish lying.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:02 PM
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49. Yep he lied...about an illicit affair! Who really cares?
That was no security risk! It was a very typical guy lying about straying off the farm. I could give you a long list of names of people I know who've done the same damn thing. Yep, he was unfaithful to his wife, but damn it, if she can forgive him and move on, then so should we all!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:52 PM
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38. Fuck off and die, Republican filth.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:57 PM
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42. QC And I Are Giving Loco Hell But That's Over The Top
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:59 PM
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46. Oh, no worries. It is funny when people say that kinda stuff.
If they do not reign it in with me, they usually don't reign it in with other people either, and break the rules over and over. Then they get tombstoned!
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:59 PM
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45. If it wasn't such a big security risk when he was President,
why will it be as "first man" or whatever he would be called?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:01 PM
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48. Apparently it was a cause for concern of some sort back then.
I mean, they moved Monica out of there. I bet there are people in the CIA or Secret Service who monitor these types of situations for any potential problems that might arise from interns and other employees.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:01 PM
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47. That will bring up all kinds of questions about McCains former mistress / current wife
Edited on Sat May-03-08 09:43 PM by NNN0LHI
Wasn't that a security risk when he was out running around on his now ex-wife with his current one?

Repigs won't go here if they know whats good for them.

Don
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belpejic Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:18 PM
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50. This is so irrelevant
I can't believe that Democrats would try to restart the Great Clinton Cock Wars. I thought only pervy Repubs cared about that (wait--is that redundant?) Why don't you spend some time looking into King George the First's dalliances--I hear he is a major poon hound. Look, many major politicians get some on the side. I don't like it but it seems to be true. Putin probably does too, though I think that dude probably has some seriously weird fetishes. What's the point? Bubba isn't running for office; Hillary is. Why not look into Huggy Bear's "clandestine ops"?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:26 PM
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52. Why? I thought the primary was over.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:26 PM
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53. I used to work for a guy with NSA clearance
He had to sign forms saying he wouldn't have sex with foreign nationals before going overseas. I guess if he keeps to the homegrown bimbos he'll be okay... But with all the travel lately? I don't know. Maybe he's getting older and growing out of it. At any rate it will be a campaign issue if she's up against McCain.
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