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TacticalPeek

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Sun May-04-08 01:52 AM
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Infamous YouTube hoax - BingoFrogger - Identities revealed - appears to be Obama supporter.

Infamous YouTube - BingoFrogger - Identities revealed

by SluggoJD, Sun May 04, 2008 at 12:33:45 AM EST

Jamal Boone, of Venice, CA - a lot of people might want to contact you.

UPDATE - Jamal Boone, an Obama supporter, has one pro-Clinton video listed as a favorite - The War Room, Part 9. Guess what happens starting at 4:39 in part 9? Yup, Mickey Kantor comes in....and you can guess the rest, but I'll spell it out anyways - part 9 was used to create BingoFrogger's original hoax video. END UPDATE.

I believe I've done it - discovered the persons responsible for the very first "people from Indiana are shit" hoax video, posted online by BingoFrogger on Thursday, 5/1/08 around 3 PM. This video spawned later reposts all over the internets by a notorious hitman known as Politikewl - who is friends with JedReport at You Tube, and others, and then mutated into an even uglier hoax video, when someone decided to try to make others believe that Mickey Kantor used the term "white ni---rs" to describe people in Indiana.

This will be my last diary on this subject, because I am convinced I have solved it completely. I will name the person who did this, in my opinion, based on the research. I will take everyone through the evidence step by step. I'm sorry to say these people are, at the very least, Obama supporters, and not right wing trolls trying to cause trouble.

So here we go, step by step...

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/4/03345/32941

A blow too low.

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grantcart

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Sun May-04-08 02:06 AM
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1. Pretty good forensics now how does he trace that back to the 1993 reviewer that made reference to it

Analysis

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/2/154559/1273/617/507893

from the 1993 review

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/videos/thewarroompghowe_a0b00d.htm

"War Room" is shot in the nonscripted, cinema-verite style by D. A. Pennebaker (whose follow-around films on President Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey and Bob Dylan are documentary classics) and Chris Hegedus. Whether Carville and company are play-acting somewhat for the cameras becomes less important as the film progresses. One can only keep up an act for so long -- especially in the throes of a campaign. Carville's tearful farewell speech to his staff as they close up just before the election, Stephanopoulos's frank talk with a potential blackmailer and a Mickey Kantor comment about the people of Indiana (when it looks as though Clinton's ahead in Dan Quayle's state) attest to this.

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leftofcool

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Sun May-04-08 03:44 AM
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16. Also debunked in 1993 within an hour of hitting the paper

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Mezzo

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Sun May-04-08 04:42 AM
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24. poor obamamaniacs.

I wonder how long it'll take for the author of the OP to be called a racist for bringing this to light.

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druidity33

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Sun May-04-08 06:36 AM
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39. uh huh

got a link for that 1993 "debunking"?

Otherwise, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU!

:)

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BleedingHeartPatriot

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Sun May-04-08 08:07 AM
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45. That reviewer was incorrect, however, because if his wrongheaded take on the quote

the Obama supporter thought there was a "there" there. Unfortunately, there wasn't, thus the need for the Obama guy to fake what he said.

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grasswire

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Sun May-04-08 02:12 AM
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2. kick

sick

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babylonsister

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Sun May-04-08 02:15 AM
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3. mydd? Please. If you're that concerned, find a real source for your inuendos. nt

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Mezzo

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Sun May-04-08 04:43 AM
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25. LOL Who should the author use? Dalykos?

:rofl:

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MADem

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Sun May-04-08 05:01 AM
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28. Bwahahahaha! nt

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MADem

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Sun May-04-08 05:02 AM
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29. It's believed a Kos person was assisting in the "alert the media" effort. NT

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leftofcool

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Sun May-04-08 05:20 AM
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34. And several DUers

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MADem

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Sun May-04-08 01:27 PM
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50. Gee, that's really "special." What a lovely place this has become. nt

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Political Heretic

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Sun May-04-08 02:16 AM
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4. Sad. I reject and denounce.

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MattP

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Sun May-04-08 02:25 AM
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5. Not as bad as Hillary's right wing radio cheerleaders, is she to be accountable for them

Edited on Sun May-04-08 02:26 AM by MattP

It's a good thing that this never became a story the MSM or this could have been a big story. I don't how just because some idiot supports Obamas does something stupid makes it like Obama is responsible. If that is the case Hillary is responsible for everything her supporter Limpballs does.

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Mezzo

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Sun May-04-08 04:44 AM
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26. and certainly not as awful as OBama's right wing attack Harry and Louise.

I will never let you people forget it either.

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mythyc

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Sun May-04-08 05:14 AM
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31. .

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crimsonblue

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Sun May-04-08 02:32 AM
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phew... good thing mydd has no credibility...

next thread.

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babylonsister

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Sun May-04-08 02:42 AM
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7. If it does, prove it. Thanks. nt

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crimsonblue

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Sun May-04-08 02:43 AM
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9. i wasn't being sarcastic.

but thanks for playing.

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Mezzo

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Sun May-04-08 04:46 AM
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27. ROFLMFAO...without myDD, you'd have no 'kos, and you know it.

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crimsonblue

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Sun May-04-08 07:40 PM
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56. I never said kos was credible, did i?

I'm sick of reading articles without sources and whatnot.

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AllentownJake

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Sun May-04-08 02:32 AM
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6. So if this guy isn't the person

You just outed someone who may have had that favorited because they were doing what everyone else was that day and trying to figure out what the fuck was going on.

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mythyc

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Sun May-04-08 02:42 AM
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8. what exactly are you implicating the JedReport for

for being tagged as a friend??? I read the whole thing twice and can't see any connection to Jed in this other than that. Yet you're forming some pretty brazen innuendos about him, so should be doubly clear about your "findings" or lack thereof about his stake if any in all of this. Otherwise you're purposively smearing someone by no looser evidence than guilt by as marginal association as it gets. If that's intentional, it's pretty effed up if you ask me. If I read it wrong my apologies but there's still an apparent opacity and ambiguity in Jed's place in all this, in which maybe you should clear up your writing....

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babylonsister

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Sun May-04-08 03:05 AM
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10. Thanks for mentioning Jed, because he's a good guy and does not

deserve the ire of anyone. This in retrospect sounds like a baby fit from someone who knows he/she is wrong. :cry:

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Hissyspit

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Sun May-04-08 03:25 AM
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12. My problem is that Politkewl still has the video up, won't take messages, has disabled

Edited on Sun May-04-08 03:39 AM by Hissyspit

comments for it - it's all a bit cowardly.

I tried to send him this message and was not allowed to:

"Please do all Obama supporters a favor and take that video down. Kantor says "Those people are gonna be shitting." He is talking about the White House. I have watched it and listened to it dozens of times on the DVD with headphones, eyes open, eyes closed. He is clearly referring to the White House, and what he expects to be their reaction to the new poll numbers in traditionally Republican states, Indiana and Texas.

I am an Obama supporter. I'm canvassing for him tomorrow and voted for him in the NC primary. Continuing to push this false story makes Obama supporters look bad. The suggestive text is manipulative and turning off the comments section is something right-wingers do for their political videos.

There is no there there. He is talking about the White House not the people of Indiana, which you would expect to be his reaction since he was involved in a campaign to beat George H.W. Bush."

If someone has a way to send it to him for me, please do with my name.

I think Jed is a good guy, too, and I don't take serious what's on MyDD, but the falsely subtitled videos need to come down.

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mystieus

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Sun May-04-08 04:16 AM
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21. The video itself isn't doctered. look any oringnal video. The words he type over the old video were.

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Hissyspit

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Sun May-04-08 05:30 AM
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35. He has the video with the false text over it on his website.

I realize it is not doctored. But the video that is still up has Kantor saying something he didn't say and is slanderous/libelous.

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leftofcool

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Sun May-04-08 05:18 AM
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32. I think the attorneys involved would prefer it stay up.........

evidence. My guess anyway

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quakerboy

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Sun May-04-08 03:08 AM
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11. Wow.

Talk about odd. This person thinks they are Sherlock Holmes, but all they have is circumstantial PseudoEvidence.

I particularly liked the following addendum post: "At precisionchaos.net, there is an image of a spider at the top of the page. And at You Tube, Politikewl has a spider image as well. In both cases, the colors are red and black. Therefore Scott Dimeler IS Politikewl, like I believed last night"

The first "Spider" is a pair of squarish red and black spiders in a logo. The second "spider" is a red and black Batman Logo. Which has remained the same since april 30thm according to google's Cached Pages, so it wasn't magically changed after our Sherlock posted his "findings" In other words, based on the use of the (ever so rare) colors red and black, our Sherlock pronounces that 2 otherwise unconnected internet occurences are the same person. I'm sure the rest of his conjecture holds up similarly well.

Anyhow, my main question is who tacks an extra Obama videos subsection to a leatherstore website? Thats just odd, when you could just as easily keep them at youtube or the like, I would think.

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aaroh

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Sun May-04-08 03:30 AM
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13. I don't think this Columbo wannabe should quit his day job

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solidguild

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Sun May-04-08 03:48 AM
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17. Oh, just one more thing...

This hilariously inept "detective" work is as irrelevant as Hillary will be soon.

After this wretched campaign of hers, she deserves to be voted out of the Senate when her term expires. Of course, this should be true of all of the Democratic impostors at the DLC.

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quakerboy

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Sun May-04-08 03:49 AM
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18. Whatever. He is a true genius

He sees things the rest of us don't. That is the definition of genius, right?

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aaroh

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Sun May-04-08 03:54 AM
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20. A true moron more like it.

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SwampG8r

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Sun May-04-08 02:01 PM
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51. no thats the definition of delusional

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quakerboy

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Sun May-04-08 03:33 PM
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54. Ah,

I knew it had to be one of those things. The chain of logic is so shaky, its ridiculous. Either way, why wouldn't this guy let the supposedly wronged parties pursue the matter, rather than coming up with their own conspiracy theory's? Do the people over there really have that much extra time on their hands?

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SwampG8r

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Sun May-04-08 07:09 PM
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55. i dunno

i just thought you had the definition of genius and deluded mixed up

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Cessna Invesco Palin

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Sun May-04-08 03:36 AM
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14. What a fucking moron.

Methinks Sherlock shouldn't quit his day job. Assuming he even has one.

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Life Long Dem

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Sun May-04-08 03:37 AM
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15. Irrelevant.

It doesn't take Sherlock to figure out you can rent the DVD at Blockbuster showing the same video.

But I think we should go over this with a fine tooth brush until at least Tuesday night.

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Mezzo

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Sun May-04-08 05:07 AM
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30. oh, bullshit. Had this been a HRV supporter, you people would be apeshit.

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leftofcool

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Sun May-04-08 03:49 AM
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19. Busted

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McCamy Taylor

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Sun May-04-08 04:16 AM
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22. Eeks! However, people posing as Obama suporters could still be CREEPY....

Edited on Sun May-04-08 04:18 AM by McCamy Taylor

Because attacks against one Democrat that appear to come from another Democrat was the number one strategy of Nixon's dirty tricksters in 1972 and internet stuff is ideal for that.

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CreekDog

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Sun May-04-08 04:25 AM
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23. an Obama supporter? OMG.

got a secret for you, some of Clinton's supporters have committed crimes and gone to jail.

:wow:

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leftofcool

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Sun May-04-08 05:19 AM
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33. Please supply names, crimes and all links

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CreekDog

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Sun May-04-08 06:24 AM
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38. one of the Obama supporters removed that mattress tag!

:yoiks:

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Maribelle

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Sun May-04-08 06:47 AM
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40. Please wait while the dig out those republican talking points from the last century.

That's all they've got.

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Maribelle

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Sun May-04-08 05:50 AM
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36. An obama follower? Who knew?

Everyone? Obumma.

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durrrty libby

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Sun May-04-08 06:04 AM
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37. K

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jordi_fanclub

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Sun May-04-08 07:08 AM
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41. SURPRISE!!!... or How-To spot (another) Clintonite LIE: (15-yr old proof included!)

‘The War Room’ (PG)
By Desson Howe
Washington Post Staff Writer
November 12, 1993

"War Room" is shot in the nonscripted, cinema-verite style by D. A. Pennebaker (whose follow-around films on President Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey and Bob Dylan are documentary classics) and Chris Hegedus. Whether Carville and company are play-acting somewhat for the cameras becomes less important as the film progresses. One can only keep up an act for so long -- especially in the throes of a campaign. Carville's tearful farewell speech to his staff as they close up just before the election, Stephanopoulos's frank talk with a potential blackmailer and a Mickey Kantor comment about the people of Indiana (when it looks as though Clinton's ahead in Dan Quayle's state) attest to this.

LINK: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/videos/thewarroompghowe_a0b00d.htm

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jefferson_dem

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Sun May-04-08 07:29 AM
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42. What a fucked up mydd diary. Baseless wild-eyed accusations that would make Joseph McCarthy proud.

n/t

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Ian David

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Sun May-04-08 07:44 AM
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43. Agreed. This was unfair, dirty and unnecessary, since Hillary's already mathematically eliminated.nt

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Window

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Sun May-04-08 08:00 AM
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44. So, SluggoJD "believes" BingoFrogger's the culprit...

Okay.

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Barack_America

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Sun May-04-08 08:10 AM
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46. It's so hilarious when bloggers accuse one another of internet hijinks using their silly monikers.

What say you to the claims of "SluggoJD", "BingoFrogger"? WHAT SAY YOU?

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Vinca

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Sun May-04-08 08:11 AM
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47. Then BingoFrogger is a moron.

With all the real negatives available on Hillary, you don't need to make them up.

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merh

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Sun May-04-08 08:25 AM
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48. have you read this guy's diary?

Edited on Sun May-04-08 08:27 AM by merh

OMG - you folks crack me up. That is John Dean, he was banned from here long ago because of all of his antics. He is a Bev Harris defender and is known for having stalked folks on the internet. He is a conspiracy debunker (rofl - I'm trying to keep a straight face here.)

He thinks he is a detective and was deeply involved in all that crap smearing Andy (he claimed to be concerned for Andy, but he was trying to absolve Bev).

Bozo something was his moniker (one of many here.

From his diary

Hi all,

My name is John Dean, from Santa Ana, CA. I am a loyal Democrat, and a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton.

-snip-

And looks like he is a sexist :rofl: :sarcasm:

I'm Karl Rove's best friend

by SluggoJD, Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 10:10:03 PM EST

Good evening boys and hootergirls,

I sure hope it's ok to call some of you boys and hootergirls, since not everyone is on our payroll acts like an adult around here.

Allow me to introduce myself - I'm John, and I'm Karl Rove's best friend. Karl wanted me to let you know that he loves each and every one of you that is working so hard for us crooked corrupt flag waving, apple pie-loving Republicans this election year, whether incognito or not...

-snip-

yeah, he's reliable.

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nichomachus

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Sun May-04-08 10:27 AM
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49. I heard a Hillary supporter fart yesterday

now all Hillary supporters have to say "pardon me" to everyone they see all day.

(as long as we're holding the actions of one person against every single supporter).

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SwampG8r

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Sun May-04-08 02:05 PM
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52. hahahahaha

he who smelt it......
dealt it

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The Night Owl

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Sun May-04-08 02:31 PM
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53. Mickey Kantor should sue the animals who smeared him. He should take everything they have. {EOM}

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FlyingSquirrel

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Sun May-04-08 07:53 PM
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57. Mickey Kantor = Trick Monkey, Tacky Moniker, A Rickety Monk. Funny guy

Oh yes...

Karmic Ken Toy
Actor Me Kinky
Okay Neck Trim

Truly an interesting name.

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SoFlaJet

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Sun May-04-08 08:16 PM
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59. is there some kind of name generator you have

that I can use? I used to have a Ramones name generator that would tell you what your name would be if YOU were in The Ramones. It asked you your name and whatever your first name was they'd put a Ramone at the end instead of your real last name-funny-did I explain that right?

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Forkboy

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Sun May-04-08 08:12 PM
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58. "SluggoJD" and "BingoFrogger" in a debate over identity.

Edited on Sun May-04-08 08:12 PM by Forkboy

Excuse me while I :rofl:

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