Hillary Town Hall with George Stephanopoulos

anyone watching this? seems like George wants to show hes not on Hillarys side. He and the first questioner are really going after her

Sorry - I can't stand to listen to her.

said she felt she was being pandered by her, while George is saying every economist says her gas tax 'holiday' plan is a horrible idea

But, yeah, I thought it was a tough show for her.

and I plan on watcing Obama w/russert then.

TIA!

George Stephanopoulos has zero credibility. Zero.

She had the gall to say that the economists (every single one who has talked publicly about her gas plan)
are "elites."

Stephanopolis asked her to name ONE economists who thought her gas-tax plan was a solid idea. He just
wanted a positive quote from one economists.

She couldn't name one. Instead she said that economists are "elites."

She sounds like Bush, who ignore scientists and experts because he knows so much better.

What a stupid statement.

Ecomomists are "elites."

Everyone's out to get her.

Uber-Elitist.

She will do or say anything to win. ANYTHING. Does she even understand how silly she looks when she tries to paint economists, ECONOMISTS, as elitists, versus her, a power hungry politician? Its transparent to anyone her motives.

west coast feed even if it is like nails on a chalkboard.

It's one thing if she said they were "elitists", where as she was on their side and "feels their pain" (and even that seems somewhat ridiculous given her actions), but in terms of ACTUALLY being elite, being a senator, a wife of a former president, and sharing a 109 million dollar fortune ( and I'd bet 109 million that many economists would KILL to have ) would make you an elite relative to 99.5% of americans

But I cant see this yet till 10.00

...opinion of the program without even seeing the program.

How do you know it was a ridiculous statement when you haven't even seen the program yet?

"What a stupid statement.

Ecomomists are "elites.""
But i don't want to put words into his mouth, so he/she'll will probably come back to clarify. :hi:

:hi:

"Economists are elites" Thats a RIDICULOUS statement any way I hear it. w/o seeing the program.

apparently ad-libbing, "Call me crazy, but I actually listen to economists because I think that they know what they've studied."

I found Clinton's dismissal of economists as "elitist" a breathtaking response to a question she clearly could not answer - and one that could come back to haunt her. Claiming that economists don't know what they're talking about, but that SHE will put together the right solutions on this once she's in office is amazing.
Some here have compared it to Bushspeak - I think it's even worse. Bush at least CLAIMED that he would get expert advice of the economy and foreign policy - of course, he then ignored much of it when he didn't agree with it, but at least he sought advice. But for a presidential candidate to say that she isn't interested in what economists have to say about a major economic issue is pretty shocking.

P.S. One of the primary reasons that Bill Clinton's economic policies were so sound was that he had some really good economists advising him . . .

George is even shorter than Hillary.

He tries to get a word in and she just keeps going!

I wonder if these two got along in their previous lives under the Clinton regime.

He is like a school boy with a crush.

The woman said she felt "pandered to" by Hillary with her gas-tax holiday.

She also said, "Pardon me, but I rely on economists because they're experts
in that area, I don't think they're elite."

You could see the seething undercurrent of rage on Hillary's face.

She stood up, out of her chair, and answered this woman--and she continued to stand.

Now Stephanopolis is standing too.

Hillary is up on her haunches in defensive mode.

Stephanopolis also pounded her on NAFTA--talking about the Indiana plant that was closed. He
reminded everyone that the plant closed during the Clinton Administration. He kept pounding
her on that and he told her, "You can't have it both ways." He told Hillary that she
routinely touts the economic success during their administration and they've often attributed
that to NAFTA and globalizations. Steph asked her, "HOw can you take credit for all of the
good of NAFTA, but not the bad?"

OWNED!

Then he asked her about her Library Foundation donors, and why aren't they being released. He
kept pushing her on this, and finally she said she wouldn't release it. She looked like she
was hiding something. He kept asking her why she wouldn't release it and didn't the public
have the right to know? She said, "No, I won't release it until after I'm president."

Did not look good for her.

and she answered them well.

...her mouth was moving.

However, that questioner completely owned her. The questioner started her statement by
saying that economists are not "elite."

I think anyone watching this understands that economists are not elites!

The woman went on to say that she relies on economists because they are experts.

Hillary did not address this. She did not answer that. She evaded the woman's point.

The woman owned Hillary--because she clearly said was most rational people think--that economists are experts, not "elites."

Hillary's entire argument about why no economists or experts have come out and said her gas tax idea was sound---was because
the economists are "elites."

Hillary was blown out of the water. Who cares if she "answered", she was exposed and her "elite" remark was totally nailed
down as ridiculous.

You just happen to be on their side because they oppose Hillary Clinton on this political wedge you think you have with the feigned cynicism over a gas tax holiday that Obama himself supported three times in Illinois. This is just politics, but you want folks to believe that there's something big and important in the petty bickering over this proposal. If it gets you some political advantage for your candidate you'll continue to promote this. But, I know, with a great deal of confidence, that you would be on the other side of this if it was Obama defending his gas tax proposals he supported in Illinois all by his lonesome.

The transparent politics from the Obama camp and his supporters over this issue is no better than anything political in Hillary Clinton's support of this proposal. You need to appeal to someone who hasn't been through an election before to get them sincerely exercised over the proposal itself. Have fun playing with your politics. That's all it is.

And neither congress or Bush are going to go for it. It's being proposed to take place BEFORE a new president is in office....

Its a political ruse....

:thumbsup:

well said

she's really smart, rich and part of the government.

Elitism is the belief or attitude that those individuals who are considered members of the elite — a select group of people with outstanding personal abilities, intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern <1>. Alternatively, the term elitism may be used to describe a situation in which power is concentrated in the hands of the elite.

But he makes me sick with his slick style. I kind of like it when she treats him like the nuisance that he truly is.

dup

We all deserve to know who her library donors are. She's running for President.

It's legitimate to talk about her gas-tax plan and ask her for ONE economist or expert who supports her idea on that policy.

It's legitimate to ask her these questions.

The problem is---the media rarely does.

She expected to walk into this and that Steph would pitch her softballs.

He's not. He's not kow towing to her.

As he shouldn't. If she's so tough and "experienced" she should be able to handle questions from ordinary Americans
and Stephanopolis.

To Play Nice This Time. Probably Blindsided Her. After Kantor Broo-HA-HA, Steph Had To Look Tough!

debacle of a so-called debate. Trying to get his cred back...lol.

He asks the right questions but she rolls right over him. Maybe she would do that with anyone, but its clear she has no respect for him and maybe even a little contempt. Its too bad serious journalists are so few and far between.

Too bad he'll have less than a tenth of the audience than the flag pin mad bomber scary pastor debate.

so who can take you or your opinions seriously?

Btw, we can provide you with Mickey Kantor's office number so you can call him tomorrow and plead for forgiveness for attempting to smear a good human being as a racist.

She just said, "I have advocated vigorous diplomatic engagement with Iran."

Talk about ludicrious lies!!!!

Does diplomatic engagement include telling the world that you would "obliterate them"?

She also voted with Bush and the neocons on Kyl/Lieberman--which defined an arm of the
Iranian government as a "terrorist organization."

What a complete liar she is.

She assumes we're all morons.

she has been consistent in advocating for diplomacy with Iran. The often distorted "obliterate" response was when she was asked what she would do if Iran used Nuclear weapons on Israel. You honestly think that the time for diplomacy is AFTER Iran attacks with nuclear weapons?

from inside Iraq..... the fact that he's sent another aircraft carrier over to the gulf has a sign of "strength" to Iran is an indication that an assault from Iraq (permitted under Kyl/Lieberman which HRC voted for) may need a bit of back up once the ball gets rolling..

What are YOU AND HRC going to say when Iran is attacked from inside Iraq? Oh, I didn't vote for that..I thought it was a diplomatic move. I didn't know that George Bush would take military action... Sound familiar!!!

Wake up!

consistent in criticizing Bush for his lack of diplomacy. You pretend that her foreign policy consists of "obliterate" which is a lie, a distortion, a twist of a response she made to nuclear attack.

I missed the gas thing and came in during the Iran thing. A woman stood who's a repub voting for Obama.

She sounded like she knows Obama's got it.

Something like "We're glad to see republicans coming over to our side."

Sounded more concillatory than I've heard her in years.

But that's my opinion.

It's not her color.

I think that question on pandering really hit her hard.

Did she actually say that he had a crush on her?!

The media's not being nice to her today, and she can't handle the tough questions without showing her anger.

She answered the questions thoroughly, she had the information and responses at her fingertips, she was able to correct Stephanopoulos a couple of times. There was no hesitation and hemming and hawing.
She was on top of her game and looked like a president should.

What about those economists like Alan fucking Greenspan who she wants on a commission to deal with the housing crisis?

interview solidified it for me. Now that's a lie, a lot has solidified that before today, just more affirmation.