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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:17 AM
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If Hillary's Gas Tax Holiday is such a good idea, Why not make it permanent?
Okay, Hillary claims that the Gas Tax Holiday will not take away money from the treasury, but will simply shift the burden of paying it from consumers to the oil companies through an added tax on them.

Okay. Well if that's the case, why doesn't she want to make it permanent? Won't drivers be just a financially hard pressed by gas prices in October or next January? In fact, if gas prices continue on their expected trajectory, drivers will be even more hard pressed as they continue to rise.

So, if it's such a good idea, and is fiscally sound, why doesn't she want to make it permanent?

(Personally, I think her proposal is a terible idea. Much better to concentrate on actually putting stronger regulation and controls on prices and the way that speculkative energy markets operate.)

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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:20 AM
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1. How about this ....
NO more gas taxes. No more money for bridge repair, transit systems, road repair.
Just a fucking third-world free-for-all that Dumbfuckistan is becoming.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:28 AM
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2. "You just don't get it, do you Scott?"
Dr. Evil
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:28 AM
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3. That's what I was wondering, too
Edited on Sun May-04-08 08:29 AM by Lastlaughin08
If it's so damn great, eliminate it altogether, and do away with all the other taxes as well.

We can all live in comfy little fox-holes in a third-world environment.

It's pandering at it's worst, Hillary. The idea is beyond stupid.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:33 AM
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4. There you go using logic.. People dont vote with logic. geesh..
Edited on Sun May-04-08 08:33 AM by Bensthename
:freak:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:53 AM
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6. yeah, logic is such a distraction from politics and government
I want a pony.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:36 AM
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5. It's only a good idea before elections, not after.
:)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:05 AM
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8. Or depending on your support base, the reverse position is better nt
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:59 AM
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7. She has a long term energy plan for that
The gas tax holiday idea as she proposes it shifts the tax burden to the obscenely profitable oil companies and provides some relief to those that drive the most. I do not have a strong feeling about it either way myself.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:10 AM
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9. And, what will keep gas prices from jumping right back up, without the tax?
Knock off the feds 20 cents for three months. Gas can go up 10 cents in one day. We could easily be back to where we are now a week after the "holiday" began. The oil cos. have already seen us pay $3.60 a gallon.

And, when the "holiday" is over, it would be spun as a "tax increase". Like chimpy's tax cuts. I can hear the RWers now: "Make the gas tax cut permanent!"

Dumb, dumb, dumb pander.

Beware of politicians bearing gifts.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:27 AM
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13. .
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:13 AM
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10. Which bridge will Hillary choose to have collapse?
Since road/bridge repair is pay-as-you-go, and since during the RW-inspired Starve The Beast ploy, er, I mean Gas Tax Holiday will prevent needed funds for road repair, construction, traffic light service & repair, bridge service & repair, striping etc, I think Hillary should be asked to make a choice. Instead of a general degradation of road conditions everywhere in the US and it's territories, causing accidents and perhaps fatalities, I suggest Hillary choose to have one representative bridge collapse as a surrogate. It must be a major bridge with multiple lanes in east direction and it must collapse during morning or evening rush hour without warning. Which will it be?

Of course, which multinational or extranational corporation with a tax haven off-shore gets the rebuilding contract is up to her.

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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:16 AM
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11. I agree with you about it being a terrible idea
and in point of fact, even if the tax is shifted to the oil companies, they can simply raise the price to offset the cost of the tax. That combined with increased consumption does nothing for our energy policy or the environment. Both issues that are suppose to be important to Democrats.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:18 AM
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12. because the taxes are used to repair infrastructure
like roads and bridges. Unless we want more bridge collapses, roads crumbling and literally falling off cliffs, we'd better keep the tax or even increase it. If people don't want any taxes, then let's go back to what was done in Massachusetts in colonial times: once a year, every able-bodied person above the age of 14 was required to go out and chop down the small trees and weeds that that clogged the roadway since the year before.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:37 PM
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14. A minor detail......Pay no attention
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:13 PM
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15. That is exactly what would be said by Repugs just as the GE heats up,
it is a clear trap for the GE and Hillary doesn't care
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