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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:49 AM
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Obama gave some long winded answers
Heard --- an exchange between Barack Obama and Tim Russert just before "Meet the Press" was aired.

Russert : “How long does it take you to prepare a spontaneous answer if you are only given one minute to respond to a question ”?

Obama : “Two hours”,

Russert : “What about a two minute response ”?

Obama : “One hour”, he said.

Russert : “And if you are allowed 10 minutes to answer ”?

Obama blurts out : “I’m ready right now”!!

Russert : "Roll the cameras ! -- We have a whole hour !"
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:50 AM
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1. You sound jellous because he is doing so well.
Edited on Sun May-04-08 09:51 AM by Kahuna
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:57 AM
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:07 AM
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19. Uh. I spelled it wrong on purpose. Duh.
Where's the dunce cap smilie when you need it?
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:51 AM
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2. ANOTHER Taylor cesspool Marsh minion
NO SALE

CIAO LOSER

IObama was great....Hillary is desperate and Miss NEOCON ELITIST Hillary is calling others elitist..LMAO!
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:53 AM
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3. that's actually pretty funny
when i was learning newswriting, half the battle was to shorten the text.

it was easier to create a one page version of a news story than to create it in 10 lines.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:55 AM
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7. You're right
I've had to address this issue as a candidate. It's a pain in the backside to cram a nuanced, complex answer into a 30-60 second space.

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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:12 AM
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20. This was the hardest problem I had when I first started. I turned in my first piece and it was ....
just under 8000 words. My editor looked at me and said, "can you knock it down to a few paragraphs?" Brevity is best in media, especially with the current bumper sticker slogan mentality.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:18 AM
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21. it is hard, but the long form is returning
thanks to the web, more and more people seek out a story and follow all the links to figure out what it means and what it means in context --this is what the journalists and talking heads were supposed to do, but the mainstream media has done so poorly at it (mostly tv that is) that people have found alternatives AND the ability to think critically.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:49 AM
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24. The internet is not going to change anything. All the internet does .....
is allow bloggers to consolidate information. The bigger problem with blogs is that they are nothing more than the opinion of a single person, who is typically ill-informed. Bloggers do very little in the way of actual reporting, all they do is regurgitate something that someone else wrote or said. They might pin up a different opinion, but it's all from the same point of view. What bloggers fail to realize is that the writer of the original article has many more facts and quotes in front of them. The hardest part about being a reporter is figuring out what to leave out. Things are left out all the time due to space or time constraints, but just because they aren't printed or said doesn't mean they don't help shape the overall piece.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 11:49 AM
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35. you know, you are just wrong, certainly in misidentifying the purpose and nature of what's changing
this is going on throughout society.

i remember this shift in my own work where we were trying to get public servants to provide their environmental data in real time when they'd been accustomed to providing not to the public but to others in related fields after 90 days of review. the resistance? amateurs would have unofficial data to do whatever they wanted with. my snide answer...so?

so for every Josh Marshall you get 10 knuckleheads, that's not the fault of this trend, that's just what the medium allows. i actually prefer having the access and different points of view and having to sift out the knuckleheads than the model of the Broders, the George Wills, the DC journalists interpreting everything for me and having little other real time information or reporting to judge things for myself.

it's about transparency and as good as journalism has been in the past and occasionally in recent years, it has not been transparent.

and almost all the good stuff lately has been using the newer form of incorporating blog type research and follow up with solid reporting by veteran reporters and writers.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:36 PM
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36. There's never goig to be transparency in journalism .......
never has been, never will be.

Earlier today I gave someone the e-mail address to the producer of Hardball. The person wanted to complain about Matthews' show on NBC. If she knew that I gave out her e-mail addy, do you think she would ever return another one of my e-mails? This is the kind of access that 99% of political bloggers do not have. Bloggers do not get seats in the White House briefing room, or get to ask questions, or get invited on Air Force One, or travel with candidates, and the few that do work for major news outlets. A blogger is not going to get a one on one interview with the Secretary of Defense, or a sit down with a Senator.

You point out Josh Marshall, but to be fair, Josh Marshall wouldn't be where he is if it weren't for his work on The American Prospect. He was printed in the print medium before moving to the internet. He was able to take his credibility and transfer it to the internet.

You want to know where the future is going? It's fairly simple. Circulation of hard print newspapers is down, within the next twenty years all newspapers will be electronic only.

Right now, blogs are expanding in popularity and size, but it will only last until it hits critical mass and the major corporations figure out to produce large amounts of revenue from it.

All the "knuckleheads" will be pushed out of the electronic news medium as will the Josh Marshalls' of the internet. Anyone with a quality product and an ounce of credibility will be swallowed up by the large news corporations, just like what happened in television. ABC owns CNN, NBC owns MSNBC, Fox owns Fox, and CBS owns, well they're CBS.

Don't get me wrong, there are some good news/political blogs out there, but they're not going to last and many people don't take them seriously. The internet suffers from a credibility problem. We've all heard the saying that a few bad apples spoil the bunch, well the internet is more like a bunch of bad apples with a few good ones that have managed to survive, but people realize that you can't trust anything off the internet unless it's backed up by a big name corporation. If you get into an argument with someone from the opposite side of the spectrum and you're quoting TPM as a source, they're going to look at you and laugh, just like you would laugh after they point you to Ann Coulter or Michelle Mahlikai (or however you spell it).

People read blogs for one of two reasons, neither of which is to inform themselves. They read them to look for inaccuarcies from the opposing side, or to have their belief reaffirmed.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:55 AM
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28. It's also a long-known "rule-of-thumb" in preparing a speech.
There an inverse exponential correllation between the length of a speech and the time required to prepare. (Anyone with experience in this area comprehends this. Only an idiot refuses to accept it.)

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:54 AM
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:54 AM
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5. ASS WHOLE!!!!!!
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washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:54 AM
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6. OMG HE GAVE LONG ANSWERS OMG!!!!11
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:55 AM
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8. Admit it. Obama's good. VERY good.
Now, he's demolishing Hillary on this gas tax gimmick.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:56 AM
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9. Actually, the answers are not long at all
once you take out all the ummmmms and uuuuuhhhhhhs.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:57 AM
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10. OMG...he gave thoughtful answers in complete
sentences!! He didn't sound bite when discussing the Clinton McCain gas tax holiday pandering! We cannot have that in a candidate! We need more pandering such as standing in the bed of a brand new pickup truck wearing an expensive pant suit!
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:57 AM
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11. You must like Bush's one line non-answers
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:58 AM
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13. It's called civil, respectful discussion.
Would you have preferred a "Hannity and Colmes" screaming match?
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cjsmom44 Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:01 AM
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14. RE: OH PLEASE


Obama gave clear concise answers

which is a hell of alot better

than the falsehoods and political pandering

of Hillary Clinton

or

the Nuclear Options she so clearly stated...

lets see, what was that word?

Oh yes...Obliterate...yes that was it... :nuke:

Yes this is...

:sarcasm:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:02 AM
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15. there's no need to answer in 1 minute any more
we can get the whole answer as long as it takes on YouTube. we can get the whole transcript from MSNBC. a ton of news and blog outlets can provide full interviews with long and wide ranging discussions. people can skim 10 pages of that stuff in 2 minutes or they can read it carefully in 20 minutes.

i'm not longer at the mercy of the commercial break to get information on which to vote with.

he's going to be president for 4 or 8 years, if i want to do a good job of choosing him, i need to take more than 1 minute to listen to him on a given issue.

that is my job as the voter.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:02 AM
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16. Hillary fans can't handle thoughtful, reasoned answers.
Eight years of Bush, and you're jealous of the smart guy???
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:58 AM
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30. I Can Never Decide...
Are they bitter AND ignorant, or bitter ABOUT being ignorant???

:evilgrin:

:hi:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:03 AM
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17. did you think this up all on your own? how precious.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:04 AM
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18. HAHA! Obama has a good sense of humor.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:20 AM
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22. Oh my! guess I better vote for hillary instead!!!!
LOL
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:23 AM
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23. It sounds as if answers which aren't encoded in textese would be too long for you
lol, rofl
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:50 AM
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25. Frightening, isn't it? An intelligent candidate right there before your eyes. nt
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:51 AM
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26. Freepers heads explode when large words are used too.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:55 AM
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27. OMG - number 371!!!
much like the SuperD's for Obama keep trickling in... so too does my ignore list grow!

BTW, welcome to DU... enjoy your time here... for however long it might be.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:56 AM
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29. Wow - a smart man who thinks and speaks in full sentences!
Better run him out of town quick.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 11:23 AM
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31. Yep, you gotta watch those smart people that use those der big words. They could be danergus.
Edited on Sun May-04-08 11:24 AM by IsItJustMe
Can't trust those dem der edumucated people.

On edit: Dey could be commies or pinkos.
:sarcasm:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 11:47 AM
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34. "you with your big words and your ... small difficult words" - Peter Griffin
Edited on Sun May-04-08 11:47 AM by burythehatchet
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 11:41 AM
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32. obama,if i cannot dazzle you with my brillance, i will baffle you with
my bullshit.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 11:46 AM
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33. unlike the concise and direct wh*re of Babble On.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:39 PM
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37. Yeah what a jerk. Really, Who would want anything more than 30
second sound bites to solve complex national issues.

Congratulations, your thread just lowered the national IQ.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:44 PM
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38. This will prove wildly popular with the average voter, who will look at McCain and say
I understand his answers. Short and to the point.

Obama suffers the long dreaded Democratic affliction of "Answering questions till they become questions in themselves and the audience forgot the question" syndrome.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:59 PM
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39. I once read somewhere
that Harry S Truman had a conversation like that.

He was asked "How long does it take you to prepare a 5 minute speech?"
He said "About 2 hours"
"and a 10 minute speech?"
"3 hours"
"and a 2 hour speech?"
"well, if you're willing to let me ramble on for two hours, I'm ready now"


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