How was Hillary on Stephapopolopolis? I missed it. Anything interesting?

Duke

I thought that was kind of interesting. :puke:

All those anti-Obama, pro-Hillary columns couldn't save him in the end. :cry:

Considering he helped with putting a few of those folks under there.

It figures. She's sounding more and more like George W. Bush.

"With us or against us," "Obliterate," and now, "Elite Opinion."

It's fucking maddening.

:shrug: Hell, even Barry got more liberal before he died. Not Ol' Hill, though.

after hillary gets done trashing the party i think she will fade away...

Those were the days when the GOP had both a liberal and conservative wing ... before the neoconservatives took over completely.

George is too dense to understand what she is saying. Backtracking from the Obliterate Iran statement.

ah, just because I'm a hoosier, I have heard of 'them there laws' for workers. She just really turns me off.

"you see,we have "these" laws for workers" no shit sherlock...try enforcing them.

You could tell her points were being made to the audience.

I think the other posters are from hung over Obamanites who have been spiking their koolaid with vodka...

At some point she reminds the audience that Stephanopolos used to work for the Clintons\wasn't always an impartial and objective news anchor... or some such nonsense...

(I didn't watch This Week with GS, but Howie did show the clip.)

Howie and his guests seemed to think that this was a ploy by Hillary to undercut GS's credibility or standing in the eyes of the viewing audience.

CNN will put up a transcript here when it becomes available: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/rs.html

I need to take a second look at it too, so I can understand what Howie was talking about.

Need more coffee first!

:hangover:

She was most certainly trying to diminish his ability to moderate with that tactic. It was pretty smart politically, of course.

Visually, it resulted in an awkward ("who'll answer the doorbell?") display. Stephanopoulus looked like a junior high school kid at a sock hop afraid to ask for a dance.

Stupid that people would care so much about that, but it seems like a part of the society we live in.

While taking a few tough (yes tough!) questions, she brought up that in his "former life" he worked in the Clinton administration. But, I thought it was awkward for both of them and reminded the audience that they could just be watching a big Clinton-fomercial.

said that he worked under bill in the beginning in the interest of disclosure, or perhaps as inoculation if she brought it up. I think what she was doing there was to use the moderator as a character witness, by saying that he himself didn't agree on the issue of nafta with bill and he worked under him, therefore even though she worked under him(in perhaps a much closer way) doesn't mean that she also agreed with him on that issue. Honestly, it was an opportunistic but arguably effective tactic. At the same time, it still leaves it as an open question in voters minds, which could be bad for her since unlike george, she's wants them to give her the benefit of the doubt on this issue (if it is one to them) and elect her as the nominee/president

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KURTZ: Now David Folkenflik, I have a different piece of tape for you. Hillary Clinton doing some counter-programming by going on ABC's "This Week." And in her conversation with George Stephanopoulos, it turned to free trade and the NAFTA agreement passed by the Clinton administration. And then Hillary Clinton brought up something about Stephanopoulos' previous employment.

Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CLINTON: You remember this because George did work in that' 92 campaign. And George and I actually were against NAFTA. I'm talking about him and his previous life before he was an objective journalist and didn't have opinions about such matters.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ABC: Plenty of opinions.

CLINTON: Yes. But -- you know, but we were in meetings together where we said, look, we think there is going to be a lot of downsides. And we're not really thinking through that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KURTZ: Now, did Hillary Clinton kind of undermine Stephanopoulos there by reminding viewers that they had worked together in the Clinton White House?

FOLKENFLIK: That's a little brutal. I mean, a completely fair point, to be honest, one that other campaigns have mentioned, you know, at various points. George Stephanopoulos has tried very hard since leaving the White House in early 1997 to show himself as a thoughtful, tough-minded political analyst. And in many occasions he's done. But for her to do this in this moment makes it very tough for him to proceed in the rest of this town hall-style meeting and show himself to be a completely distanced and detached observer.

KURTZ: In fairness, he asked and has asked in the past some tough questions of Senator Clinton.

FOLKENFLIK: Absolutely. But rhetorically though, positions of somebody who's inside the room, not somebody outside who is observing from a bit of a distance.

KURTZ: Right. Well, you know, it's on his resume. And by the same token, although it's been about two decades now, Tim Russert once worked for Democrats Mario Cuomo and Pat Moynihan.

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Link: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/04/rs.01.html

:shrug:

She spoke about the issues and did not get into mud-slinging, unlike BO. She was articulate about her stand on the issues and gave it to the voters to decide who to support. She does not slam BO the way BO likes to attack Hillary on character.. she speaks nicely and professionally when asked to address issues where BO is having trouble.. she took questions from liberal supporters of BO and herself.. she took questions from independents and from republicans switching parties.. she is clear and gives real answers.. she offers detailed responses and is not worried if she is criticized.. She was tough as always! She will make a great leader and commander and chief!

What universe do you live in?

He is a typical politician and tries to trash Hillary on her character rather than talk about the issues! BO is a phony!

Google is your friend.

I see supporters on either side trashing the other's candidates or supporters, but neither candidate has ever gone as ballistic as you claim. phony? typical? I see them both go after each other on the issues, but good grief, you claim Obama is saying something about her character? .Try going to a few 'scary' Obama videos in the Video section, and find me anywhere he has ever attacked her character

watching Hillary sink to the bottom of the political campaign barrel with talk of Obliteration, "gas tax holiday", robo-calls, RW pandering.

You too should be ashamed.

Please choose another one...

:rofl:

that Obama MIGHT truthfully say, but has NOT. You play the victim card for Hillary, but she is not the victim of anything Obama has said. She IS the victim of her own lies and distortions and condescensions. She would make a terrible commander-IN-chief. And Obama didn't say that. I did.

in Iran who go to work or school every day and love their families. Aren't those the very people she would obliterate?

Finish the statement.

Hillary would obliterate an entire country for attacking another country that is perfectly capable of defending itself, and even has it's own nukes.

BO is stuttering and having to actually answer questions... the BO people on DU are mad because BO did not look so good when he was interviewed! If he cannot handle Tim Russert, then how is he going to handle McCain or being president and dealing with foreign leaders?

It is sad that people have to talk tough and act like bullies in a playground to be considered Presidential.

Well, then, why has Hillary not sewn this thing up if she is that good?

worked for her. . .and then called him an "objective journalist." Embarassing.

cripes...

and I'm a journalist. :-)

ok - can you "hear" the sarcasm there?

is really her best format and she did pretty well. Lots of facts and figures. She really is a policy wonk who understands these issues inside and out. It's hard to deny her that, whether you agree with her popitions or not - she certainly understands the issues.

Other than that, she dodged questions. I had to take breaks when watching it due to hearing her be very disenguenous on countless issues.

Hopefully we get an ad about her saying she was always against NAFTA...because she is LYING.