I am SOOO proud of Howard Dean for calling the Wright coverage what it is: RACE BAITING.

Sharpton was on Fixed News this morning and preferred the logic that since McSame KNOWS about Hagee and Parsley that it was WORSE than Obama's position because Obama didn't know his pastor was a flame thrower (my words) but Hagee and Parsley aren't getting covered like Wright is.

Dean took it one step further like he should and called the over coverage of Wright what it is; RACE BAITING.

For decades black in this country have had to put up with the most racist, hateful, traitorous flamethrower pastors the republicans can find and the media gives it a passing as business as usual but the second a black man comes even CLOSE to criticizing America he's demonized.

Go Dean! Call it for what the medias racist coverage of Wright for what it is and bring some change to the OVERTLY non-diverse 24/7 news channels.

Thx

with his family in tow, listening to HATE America speeches and Anti-White speeches coming from his Pastor sermons?

It appears Howard is yet again confused, when the Race Baiting is coming from the Church Obama has unflinchingly attended for the last 20 yrs.

that Wright spewed hate and anti-white speeches for 20 years.

You cannot.

You write like a republican - all hype and no facts.

(By the way, Hannity had those tapes, and if they had found anything else, I can assure you it would have been played over and over again. So that makes your post utter nonsense)

was Obama asleep the whole time?

favorite.

Get off it, this is trash and old old news.

You know damn well the fascist media has chosen selected clips to play 24/7.

It's certainly a subject for debate whether the US presence in Saudi Arabia was the reason for 911. Osama said it was.

As a Country we HAVE been very aggressive on other soverign nations. Is that really what we want out leaders to do?

I think our Country has been WRONG many times! Especially on foreign policy.

Do any of those statements indicate anti White? I don't think so!

Media dares not say "the black guy"..BUT they can just cue up the tape and send the subliminal message that says "you want THIS guy hanging around the White House"?

and when they immediately talk about the "blue collar", "rural", "values voter", "reagan democrat"..or occasionally "white male voter", they are saying "you really want to elect a black guy"?

with Rev. Wright & the white male voter, but I really can't see what you see in the blue collar, values voter, regan dem, or white male stuff. Blue collar is nothing more than a non-orofessional, values voters & rural voters & Reagan Dems are anybody against gays & abortion.

they rarely bring themselves to say "white guys won't vote for a black guy"..but they can glomb onto the "elitist" vs the codespeak they use for those other voters..and they can then claim they are not using racial tension as an issue.. That way they get to talk about race without actually TALKING about race..

I'm not going to argue with you on who's right or wrong. All I can tell you is that I don't see it that way. I know there are people who will not vote for a black guy, and there are people who won't vote for a woman. I doubt those predjudices will ever disappear in my lifetime, and maybe for generations to come.

When they refer to Blue collar, values voters and rural voters do you think they are referring to blacks?

There are blue collar blacks, value voters and rural blacks in this country. But, that is not the image projected when the MSM and politicians use the terms.

The United States of America, where there is no religious test for Presidential candidates.

It's a place where radical speech is tolerated and even encouraged, where folks understand that there are a lot of people who are less than charmed with what has happened to minorities here.

But for those of you forced to live in Dumbfuckistan, these ideas might be problematic at this late date.

amazing how short some people's memories are! Some people do not remember Jim Jones, his hatred for America, telling his congregation they were being persecuted and he led them to Guyana. When they became disenchanted and wanted to leave, he made sure they could not. A prominent US Senator got killed in the process. People were looking for a better way of life, which Jim Jones promised them, wasn't he a pastor and most of his congregation were blacks. I am not saying this right, when it is a black pastor, it is racism, when a white pastor calls for the death of Chavez, it is free speech. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Pastors rant and shout to their congregation, that is how they get their congregation to believe in them. Rev. Wright is a fly in the ointment where pastors in the US are concerned. Peace

I dunno where I got it - Those kids, prolly....heh.

:sarcasm:

By Dean.

Fucking hell.

and the insane cackle of talking heads can truly not be considered sound judgement.

Was Wright saying the US shouldn't exist? That the US was composed entirely of evil people? No, he wasn't. Wright wasn't preaching hate, his only crime was that he didn't exhibit the necessary degree of "USA NO.1" cheerleading, he didn't shout how proud he was of the USA simply for existing.

Shit like this is part of teh reason Europe tends to see Americans as insanely nationalist. What Wright said wouldn't have raised an eyebrow here.

called Blitzer out on the Wright issue, and how ridiculous the media's harping on it is. Roland Martin, Donna Brazille, even Charlie Rangel. They took Wolfie to task on the coverage, and he just kept on in his monotone.

Cause, after all, he is just a product of the 'leet gangstah movement.

Nah, no racism there, nope.

I'll let you know.

I'm in NY in July, but don't think I'll make it that far out. Do you ever go west? I'll be at the beach in Gilgo, and I can't wait! I miss my beach! Would love to meet you!

obama has failed to answer. Why did he stay a member of the congregation? Why didn't he speak up earlier? And why did he reward Rev. Wright with a campaign position even after knowing of his comments?
obama said for the first time a several weeks ago that had Rev. Wright not recently resigned as pastor of the church, he would have withdrawn. that remark only reraised the same questions: Why didn't he act before the resignation? Hell, even after knowing about some of these sermons and having serious problems with some of their messages, why did Mr. Obama still decide to appoint Rev. Wright to his official presidential campaign religious advisory committee?
It may not be playing well here in the duobama forum but throughout america it is.

Why aren't Carter, Nixon etc attacked for rev billy graham

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z-wVFkzyLb0&feature=related

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5554/is_200203/ai_n21800969
W YORK, March 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today called the anti-Semitic views the Rev. Billy Graham shared with President Richard Nixon "chilling and frightening even today, 30 years after the statements were made." ADL was shocked to learn from the just released tapes that the spiritual advisor to American Presidents believed and espoused age-old classical anti- Semitic canards.

"Why did he stay a member of the congregation?"

"obama said for the first time a several weeks ago that had Rev. Wright not recently resigned as pastor of the church, he would have withdrawn. "


Did you miss that you answered your own bullshit attack, trying to spin off another bullshit attack?

He stayed because Wright left. And how exactly has wright been ranting about 9-11 for 20 years? Oh that's right, most of his more over the top comments have come only in the last few years... so the whole 20 years tag is yet more bullshit. 20 years means nothing if for the first 16 he didn't say these objectionable things.

Also obama said he stayed because the church wasn't all about wright. He's just one guy in the church of thousands and thousands of members. Would you leave your church or synagogue because one person in the leadership said something you didn't agree with?

Should you be held accountable for everything said by anybody in your church or synagogue?

This is stupid race baiting bullshit because the hill people have nothing else to run on but right wing racist smears.

"Wright with a campaign position even after knowing of his comments?"

What's a more important question is why Hillary has an admitted sexual harasser working on her campaign.

Wright was a member of a committee of people that advised on religion... and he said some offensive things. So you and other hill people think that saying something offensive means he should be fired from the campaign and Obama should be held responsable for those words.

BIll is a top level member of Hill's campaign and he openly admits to having sex with a subordinate employee in the workplace. So obviously you must believe that Hill should fire Bill and be held responsible for his actions. After all she has not divorced him,and his actions took place only a few short years ago. We know she knew about Bill being a sexual harasser in the white house, and yet she still made him a top member of her campaign.

So ben, do you demand the same of Hillary that you do of Obama... or is yours a racist double standard?

I think it's less about race and more about "loony left" religions.


I don't know what you recall about the 2004 primaries, but Dean took a load of shit for a) being a Congregationalist and b) the reason he went from the Episcopalian church to the Congregationalists.

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2004/01/howard_dean_the.html

...near the coverage Wright has gotten.

Parsley in and of himself is a 24/7 hate channel

AMEN

ROBERTS AND FALWELL ARE TRULY EVIL...

SHAME ON THE PRESS....FOR MAKING SUCH A USELESS CIRCUS OVER REV. WRIGHT...

in his hatred. I believe that Obama has not answered questions sufficiently. And I think that it is silly to think that Obama did not know who Wright was.

And, I think that (tinfoil hat) that the whole thing about WRight coming out and defending himself was a stunt contrived by he and his very best student Obama to allow Obama to change his initial defense and response of Wright.

The question is this: does Obama agree with WRight? That is the question.

I personally do not care about the Wright issue. I have more important concerns that involve this issues and Obama's ability to be President.

He miminizes his knowledge of him and his relationship with him now that it is a negative for his campaign. He is not telling the truth and it shows.

getting answers to this particular poster - it's about making the "scary black man" an issue, you know - race baiting. There are a hand full of Hillary supporters (or Republicans pretending to be Hillary supporter) on DU that engage in constant race baiting. This poster is one of them. Do a site search for the posters name, you won't need to ask the poster questions any longer if you do, because the answers will be clear to you.

Birds of a feather...

had he been I am sure he would not have invited him to the Whitehouse.

What's the big deal? What is it that drives you so batty about tall this?

that is what drives me so batty.

Why are you so obsessed with him?

I have been responding to idiotic posts.

the n word

We all know that the Wright thing will NEVER be answered to your satisfaction. Ever.

So: Who actually needs to care about your "concern?"


(Very best student?? )

:rofl: :rofl:

could answer for Wright sufficiently? He has already denounced Wright's comments several times, made the distinction that he and Wright are not the same, and even declared Wright isn't part of the campaign or does Barack share any of his views.

When will it be enough to satisfy the MSM, the Hillary supporters and the public at large?

challenge the one whose turn it is? That is what all the little innuendos are all about.

that the blinders that Clinton supporters wear cannot be penetrated by the light of truth.

I'll be sure not to cast aspersions on the anointed one. After all, she has been the Queen to be since her husband left office.

but can't they find another scary black man?

from Senator Obama's great, great, great, uncle?

The fact that Obama stayed with this lunatic for 20 years says alot about Obama's character and judgement.

Does ANYONE actually believe Barry when he says he didn't know this so-called "Reverend" preached such inflammatory and racial hatred?

Give me a break. Obama is a damned liar.

Nah he's respectable and not an angry black man. He just hates Jews.

stay in a marriage with a woman chaser?

That is one family member that she didn't have to cling to...

Has she ever heard the word, "divorce?"

Innit?

Pathetic, really.

I'll be glad when she steps down so the hatred on these boards can shuffle off to wherever it can go....

The man needs help.

what can I say?

aka "Perception Management"

and Wright poked a hole in it.

:hi:

...they don't get even close to the coverage Wright did.

Loved it.. Dean's the man. :loveya:

and then serves it!

much of it comes from the hill camp here. racist race-baiting

...making less than 2% of his judicial appointees black. I believe those 2 issues effect the black community NOW and especially when I was going to school.

We live in two completely different worlds. The world we live in and the world that is sold to us in the media.

schools are underfunded and when blacks speak out, they are racists. Equal opportunity my foot, it's all words and no substance. Am glad Dean is standing his ground.

That's how I finally got it.

In general, what happened was the black schools were closed down, the white schools never really welcomed those students, and then the whites left the schools and defunded them. That's where we are today.

And similar processes happened all over the culture.

exactly what it is doing and promoting. Just like the war in Iraq. Paid to say.

...it

I don't care. I don't care if he sat there for 20 years or 20 minutes.

He's the best this country has got. So we've gotta go with him.


I'm far more afraid of the Dynastic implications of a Clinton Presidency than I am about who someone's preacher was. I could make a strong argument (as a Unitarian Universalist) that by its' very nature the Catholic Church is discriminatory. I.E. Tries to dictate that only those who follow Pauline principles and theology. Since the Catholics voted for Clinton in PA, she by default is a bigot against non-Catholics that believe in Christ but refuse on principle to say or believe in the Holy Trinity.


Now we all know that what I typed is silly and nonsense. But so is the whole Rev. Wright thing.

Wallace was shooting blanks from his Repig duck blind.

You're correct. That's ANOTHER word (arrogant). . . I've been called that a time or two myself.;-)

The thing is, if it was coming from the black community - I - as another well educated bi-racial person - would take it on the chin. The "our kind of people" thing . . .the lighter than a brown paper bag thing . . . the 'talking white' thing.

But I'm not taking it from elderly white men who get paid by Corporate America via sponsorships/television ads. And neither should Obama. Lou Dobbs, O'Reilly, - the whole lot of them can go hang. Time to call them out.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention...I had not heard this quote. Good post!

:sarcasm: of course

and running away from repug bullying

and the repug double standard and hypocracy.

If only Dean had a Dean 4 years ago, to watch his back...

And the country would be a far better place by now.

Dean calling if for what it is..... :patriot:

Something Hillary should have done on the onset....instead of using it as part of her arsenal. :thumbsdown:

Twas an easy call.

:kick: