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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:07 AM
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For all of you HRC supporters foaming at the mouth over REZKO...
http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/05/both-sides-rest-in-rezko-trial/

Closing arguments begin next week.

Guess what? It's over. As predicted there is no THERE there.

Yup, sorry for those of you who worked yourself into a Rezko induced frenzy - no one cares.


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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:13 AM
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1. Rezko presented no defense witnesses and the defense rapidly rested. Bad news for Obama
If Rezko cops a plea, as many are saying has been indicated by his lack of a defense presentation, he could pull a Wright, and talk a lot more about things Obama would not like him to talk about. After all, Rezko knows full well the problem areas Obama has had to reiterate, how many times now? And how much additional money has Obama already needed to give to charity because of the trial?

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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:17 AM
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2. How is that bad news for obama?
That's it, it's done. No long drawn out trial. Obama was barely mentioned at the trial and no it wasnt front page news.

That's it...it's over, done. There's no talk of a deal, it's simply done.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:35 AM
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18. I have no problem with you thinking it's done.
There is a good chance, however, it is not done. The government closed its case against Rezko with a witness that claimed to the jury he was being shaken down for alleged bribes by Rezko frequently, and he also claimed to have bought his state post through Rezko by making hefty campaign donations. Oops. Campaign donations?

Obama did nothing wrong in the instance of his pastor. However the fallout was brutal. This could or could not also happen with Rezko. If it does, it will be ethical shallowness at a minimum.

Unsubstantiated rumors are thick. An excellent example of this: The CBS TV affiliate in Chicago is speculating that Tony Rezko may try to cut a deal with prosecutors in his ongoing corruption trial. If so, it could spell trouble for others.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/rezko.trial.blagojevich.2.714925.html





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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:56 AM
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25. WBBM hasn't been right about a story since Walter Jacobs left. They're one of the biggest jokes ...
of a local news network in Chicago.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:04 AM
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29. Whatever. There is speculation about a plea deal.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:10 AM
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34. It's not whatever. If you're going to quote a source, know the credibility of the source. When ...
O'Rally reports something, especially something speculative, I bet you don't go running out and spreading it like Gospel.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:15 AM
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35. Gawd. You're trying to insult me for giving CBS in Chicago as a source?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:18 AM
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37. I'm just saying that you should know the credibility of your sources. WBBM makes Faux news look ...
credible.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:01 AM
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26. The Deal if there is one is Rezkos ties to Karl Rove and the US attorney purge
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:05 AM
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30. Could be. There could be no plea. Or Rezko could plea to tell everything he knows.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:15 AM
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36. Rezko could also turn into
a giant ball of light...expanding and glowing until he has illuminated the entire world.

However, that is as unlikely as your plea speculation.


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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:24 AM
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40. It was not my speculation.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:27 AM
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41. You could also turn into
a giant ball of light as well. Just as likely as the scenario you threw out there.

good luck with that tho.

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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:35 AM
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43. And good luck with your personal attacks, hero.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:37 AM
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44. Good luck with turning into a giant ball of light.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 08:37 AM by yourguide
Oh and with that plea deal too.

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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:23 AM
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5. Cops a plea after the defense rests?
Let me guess...you never went to law school? Also never seen any episodes of Law & Order?
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:02 AM
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27. Your personal attack aside, pleas can come even while the jury is deliberating.
Here is an example of a plea coming when the jury was about to start its fourth day of deliberations


http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/local/local_story_109014600.html


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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:27 AM
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11. How's that Florida no-vote working out for you?
Should have followed the rules. Even Guam gets a vote.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:30 AM
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15. Yes they do and isn't it a shame that in a "Democracy"
not all votes are counted?
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:37 AM
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20. Do you always have such problems sticking to the subject of a thread?
Rules are rules, dontchaknow.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:20 AM
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38. Hillary preparing her concession speech as we speak
just in case. :rofl:

No V.P. for her. Kathleen Sebelius is much more qualified and would make for a better ticket with Obama.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:56 AM
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24. I'm From Illinois. I've Followed This Case Closely,
There is less to this case than there was to White Water, which was exactly NOTHING!

Rezko, a businessman who played all sides of the political scene. donated to Republicans, and Democrats. Rezko had his picture taken as he stood beaming between a smiling Bill and Hillary Clinton. A shrewd player, Rezko quickly recognized the talent and potential of Senator Barack Obama and made donations to his campaigns just as he had to many other Illinois Republicans and Democrats. And that's the extent of the link to Senator Obama, or Senator Clinton for that matter. Saying otherwise is doing the work of the RNC. Be ashamed. Be very ashamed.

The most salacious detail that came out of this case was testimony that alleged a plot involving the former treasurer of the Republican National Committee and Karl Rove in conspiring to remove Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald from his post during the middle of the Scooter Libby/Gonzales 8 scandals of 2006-2007.

mike kohr
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:04 AM
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28. Rezko sin't copping a plea
he went to trial.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:07 AM
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31. Pleas can come even when the jury is deliberating.
See my post above
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:28 AM
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49. IF he cops a plea at this late date
It'll be to help Fitzgerald put Blagojevich behind bars.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:19 AM
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3. I don't care about rezko.
He does not matter.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:24 AM
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7. Thank you
I concur. Bringing up Rezko would be like bringing up Marc Rich or some other Clinton connection. Time to start paying attention to the REAL news. 140,000+ troops in Iraq, Bush just sent another aircraft carrier to the Middle East, economy on the brink, etc.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:10 AM
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33. Oh? That was an Obama supporter that started this. Now you've brought up Marc Rich.
Cute, real cute.

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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:22 AM
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39. Reading comprehension?
Edited on Tue May-06-08 08:23 AM by hokies4ever
Actually, I was agreeing with ccharles00's statement, saying that bringing up Rezko is like bringing up someone for the Clintons. Guilt by association leads us to the false conclusion that we are getting to know our candidate better when we hardly are accomplishing that.

Don't be so defensive next time.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:27 AM
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42. Well, we do not have to worry about 'bringing up someone' now do we. You've gone and done it.
What a hero!
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:25 AM
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47. 'You've gone and done it'
Oh no, a whole 3 people reading this thread who don't know who Marc Rich is might google him now. Grow some testicular fortitude and stop acting so frantic.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:23 AM
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4. Clinton chose not to make it an issue for Obama
I doubt he would have done the same if the situation were reversed.

Also, keep in mind, the GOP hasn't even begun to touch on Obama's Rezko connections. If he were to win the nom, you can bet it would be getting the Ken Starr treatment, 24/7.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:24 AM
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6. Go to
2008central.net and listen to the old HRC campaign conference calls. Wolfson and Penn kept pounding Rezko on those calls BEGGING the media to cover it. The media didnt care. Get your facts straight.


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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:24 AM
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8. She BROUGHT IT UP IN A DEBATE, How can you be in so much denial?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:27 AM
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12. How many ads did she run about Rezko?
She brought it up a couple of times in the debates, but otherwise left it alone.

How would Obama have dealt with it if the roles were reversed?
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:27 AM
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13. The crowd booed when she brought it up in the debate
and you wonder why she didn't run any ads on it? She had already embarrassed herself with it.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:39 AM
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45. oh brother. The bussed in Obama crowed boos on command.
I am not swayed by the booing Obama crowd.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:31 AM
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17. We already know how he would have dealt with it. He didn't say a word about the 14 convicted felons
Edited on Tue May-06-08 07:33 AM by Boz
That make up Hillary Clintons Friends and Associates in the Whitewater scandal.

Not smoke, their MIGHT be something, not possibilities, convicted felons.

That was just one deal, How about HSU, And Peter Paul and various other outstanding Federal Elections Fraud cases.

And Obama did not lower himself to her level.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:36 AM
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19. For good reason, voters would have turned against him
Only the GOP continues to flog that old non-scandal. The public never fell for it.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:39 AM
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21. The public fell for it, The excuses I mean, You don't get 14 convictions when theres nothing to it
Edited on Tue May-06-08 07:40 AM by Boz
Nice Dodge on HSU
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:27 AM
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48. What's a few felonies between friends?
:rofl:
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:25 AM
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9. How many Dem debates did you actually watch?
You don't remember when she brought it up and the crowd booed her?
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:26 AM
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10. Republicans won't touch Rezco, because it will force Karl Rove to the stand
Edited on Tue May-06-08 07:36 AM by Boz
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:43 AM
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46. Too funny....
...even Hillary the Liar knew there was nothing there. That is why she made nothing of it ~~ because there was NOTHING there.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:29 AM
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14. Does this mean Rezko ..
is going to be taken out of the recycle rotation?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:30 AM
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16. This story has been off of the national radar screen for weeks now
I think it lost a lot of steam after Obama sat down with the editorial boards of the Sun Times and the Tribune and answered all of their questions.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:40 AM
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22. A Triumph of the Same Press Corp That Ignored TANG and Coke
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:51 AM
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23. Ok, you lost me on that one...Tang and Coke? Seriously, what did I miss?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:07 AM
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32. There was never anything to this Obama "scandal"
Just another made up bright shiny object intended to confuse voters. A real shame.
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