Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Zogby's final day of polling: Obama with 14 point lead in NC! 2 point lead in IN.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:49 AM
Original message
Zogby's final day of polling: Obama with 14 point lead in NC! 2 point lead in IN.
UTICA, New York—On the strength of good polling numbers on the final day before the primary elections in Indiana and North Carolina, Barack Obama of Illinois holds a convincing lead in North Carolina, but the race is simply too close to call in Indiana, the latest Zogby two-day telephone tracking poll shows.

The pair of surveys of the Democratic presidential contests shows Obama with a significant 14-point lead in North Carolina, winning 51% support to Hillary Clinton’s 37%. Another 12% said they were either favoring someone else or were as yet undecided. In Indiana, the race is clear as mud, as Obama holds a statistically insignificant lead of two points, winning 45% support to Clinton’s 43% support, with 12% either undecided or favoring someone else.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1499

:bounce:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:50 AM
Response to Original message
1. will they correct their numbers after the results are in like they did with PA?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #1
10. Zogby had Obama up by only about 7 points a couple days ago. He bounced back, just like
he did in the national polls.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:51 AM
Response to Original message
2. This'll pretty much sink Zogby's reputation
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #2
7. laughing is the correct response, yes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #2
24. I agree
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #2
44. His reputation is tarnished by the Zogby brother's anti-Israel
stance. They have formed the Arab American Institute. I wonder if they like Obama's middle name? :>)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #2
46. Why?
Did you read the methodology part? Are any of it? There is a +/-3.9% margin of error. You don't think Indiana is close? If Hillary wins by 2%, Zogby was dead on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #46
47. I don't think it's even marginally close
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #2
52. still laughing?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:51 AM
Response to Original message
3. Yes We Can!
K and R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:52 AM
Response to Original message
4. I'm still calling IN +5 for Clinton and NC +13 for Obama.
I was dead-on in PA (well, I did miss by .2).

I have a 1-race winning streak so far.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. lol... well, i predict IN by 7 for Clinton and NC by 9 for Obama
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #5
14. YES-you predict a double-digit win for Obama in NC!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #14
53. and guess what he was right
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. Sounds pretty close.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #4
13. I predicted +10 for Hillary in IN and +4 for Obama in NC. I can't wait to be wrong!
Terry McAuliffe wouldn't predict a win like he always has in the past until Mika and Joe kept goading him on wshen he finally predicted a win for Hillary in IN. Then he rattled off predicted wins in WV, KY, PR, etc., and then Tamron Hall kept saying McAuliffe predicted wins for Hillary in both states. :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:53 AM
Response to Original message
6. I read that Zogby's state polls are, on average, +3 for Obama compared to actual vote, so I'll just
make that adjustment for you ;-)

North Carolina Obama +11
Indiana Clinton +1

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #6
17. That's fine with me!
That's a win-win for Obama in MY book!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #17
29. I know. I will be starting an Obama party at the pub if this happens.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #29
38. I'll be there!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:55 AM
Response to Original message
9. Hate to state the obvious, but only today's polls will matter at this point. (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #9
22. Of course. But the trends are in Obama's favor. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:56 AM
Response to Original message
11. Yo, Jen....
...GOBAMA!!!!!



:applause:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. Hey, Hepburn...
Obama's better-looking, but he IS a super man! :hi: :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:57 AM
Response to Original message
12. Well, that'd be nice, but I it's a big stretch.
If he's right, I'll take back everything I've said about Zogby this election season.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #12
19. You think NC's 14 point prediction is a big stretch?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #19
40. Yes.
I hope that it isn't, but he still hasn't had time to fully recover from Wright.

I'll be thrilled with an 8 point win in NC and a 5 point loss in IN, which is the RCP average of polls. If he wins NC by more than he loses IN, I'll consider it a big night for him.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #40
42. I'd feel good with those results, too.
I just think since Zogby had Obama with single-digit leads the last few days, he may see a rebound going on!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #19
50. oops!
:woohoo:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nyccitizen Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:01 AM
Response to Original message
15. Prediction: NC by 11 for Obama, IN by 7 for Clinton...

Net gain of delegates for the day goes to Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
18. Zogby is becoming more useless with each poll.
An Obama win in IN would make my month, but it ain't gonna happen. Zogby is way out of the consensus on this one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:05 AM
Response to Original message
20. Among Indiana Catholics, Obama holds a three-point lead
That was stated in the article. This Catholic considers this a significant gain. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #20
27. I know-I read that! GREAT news!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:06 AM
Response to Original message
21. Anti-abortionists join Operation Chaos in Indiana
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #21
25. Those rePubes sure are scared of Obama...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #25
32. I guess they really DON'T want to run against Obama as Scarborough and others keep saying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #32
35. they would rather run against the candidate with the highest negatives in history.
That is a much easier target..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #35
39. Exactly. And Repubs. keep saying Hillary's been fully vetted, so they'd have nothing new to use
against her. Yeah, right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #35
48. I don't think you are correct according to the latest polling
information. However, if you must repeat the talking point so be it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #48
49. Funny-I don't hear about Rush telling Repubs. to vote for OBAMA!
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #21
30. I don't see how that's even LEGAL for him to do this!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:06 AM
Response to Original message
23. her gas pandering cost her Indiana..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #23
45. Well Benny, we will find out who was correct tonight.
Don't bet the farm on the Messiah,eh.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #45
51. Just thought of yah
The Messiah did alright tonight. CNN confirmed polls showed people did not favor the gas tax. :smoke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:07 AM
Response to Original message
26. Hillary moving the goalposts again-she considers the finish line at 2209 delegates!
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:07 AM by jenmito
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:09 AM
Response to Original message
28. Zogby's Monday numbers in Indiana were actually Obama 47, Clinton 41.
Hard to tell if that is just noise or if it represents a late surge for Obama.


"The one-day total, which comprises about half of the two-day tracking poll sample, saw Obama winning 47% support to Clinton’s 41%. Monday’s polling results are combined with Sunday’s numbers to produce the two-day tracking poll."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #28
36. It could be as a result of both Obama's and Hillary's appearances on "This Week" and "MTP" Sunday
where Hillary looked terrible and Obama looked great!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:11 AM
Response to Original message
31. ARE YOU SERIEES?? !! !!111!!?? ZOMG!! !?! ! ! 11
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:12 AM
Response to Original message
33. It comes down to getting out the vote
An enterprise Obama excels at.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #33
41. Yup. Not to mention the votes he already GOT out!
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:13 AM
Response to Original message
34. Zoby's tended to have a higher number of undecideds relative to SUSA
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:20 AM by 4themind
,from what I've seen. Combine that with hillary's propensity to capture many of these late deciders, and I think that may accounts for some of the differences we see. The question is whether the late trenders will break for hillary again this time. I'm not certain that will be the case in a southern state like NC, if previous history is any indication
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #34
43. Good points...
I feel the same way and have the same questions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:13 AM
Response to Original message
37. Sounds good!
K & R :thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 10:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC