Hillary backs off on gas tax break

Clinton admits "tough" to pass gasoline tax break

news. yahoo. com — 5 hours ago -Reuters -

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton admitted on Monday it would be tough to lift the federal gasoline tax this summer as she has proposed because of a likely veto from President George W Bush


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080506/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton_tax_dc

This wasn't to get us through the summer but to get them through the election. She played it through this election and should be aware that the scrutiny will not go away.

And this really ticks me off when she panders, lies, and misleads the people of this country for her own political gains!:mad:

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time. the party rejects it too.

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Fat ass? Seriously, grade-school taunts do not lend one credibility.

Nobody fixing the potholes, because it would be deemed more profitable not to do so.

Until nobody could have a job capable of paying for the repairs.

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not leader

If a Senator really wanted to help consumers re fuel, wouldn't he/she (McCain/Clinton) be advocating something along the line of windfall profits tax on the companies fucking consumers over the barrel?

to develop biofuels that DO NOT have the drawbacks that corn ethanol and Oil Palm have.

Biofuels like Jatropha and algae.

We need to convert to over 50% bio fuels and clean energy in the next 8 years. Maybe sooner.

she's the worst kind of political bomb thrower. She does her damage and then runs to the next one.

She'd stand a real good chance of winning if she ran as the republican that she is.

she has backed off on it now.... It was never anything for the people, just another way to get votes and thats one of the major problems I have with her. She could give a rats ass about you and me, its all about her.

Because you won't even get the Democrats in Congress on board for a bad idea like this one.

i'm shocked

that, too, will surely have to wait.

I thought she claimed to be one who was willing to work hard?

Apparently she has an "aw, fuck it" setting.

Why isn't she fighting for us like she said she would?

It's enough to make one think all she was doing was pandering for votes, isn't it?

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Most of the time we know there isn't a chance in hell of Democrats being able to over ride his veto either, but that never stops us from pushing those ideas anyway; opposing the Iraq war comes to mind.

But that's a misleading indicator. Since it has become such a divisive political football inside the Democratic race for the nomination, and since it obviously wouldn't become law even if they did pass it, it will not be looked at seriously, too much potential political downside with not enough political gain for Congressional Democrats to do so.

at another time?

Yes if she were President or the consensus Democratic nominee for President.

I want my cupcake!

Ain't gonna happen............................

and it said..NIX the gas tax...people KNOW you are pandering and are a LIAR

There are still quite a few senators who haven't committed to a candidate. I seriously doubt they would want to be used as pawns by trying to pass this legislation.

at least until the polls closed tonight.

I guess she mumbled this retraction this morning so no one could technically accuse her of throwing away the idea after these primaries.

Craven, I believe, is the word.

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She isn't fighting for it because she doesn't think she can get it passed?

This is what I wrote about here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5821728

Where is the leadership she's boasting of? Here's an issue with some support on both sides of the aisle, even supported by the Bush-endorsed Republican presidential nominee, and she's practically giving up on it?

So either her leadership ability in the senate isn't so great, or she never really believed in this dumb idea in the first place, take your pick.

take a shot of Crown, use her cojones and her testical fortitude to ram it through! :shrug:

That about covers it. Typical of those who have testicular fortitude.

As soon as she first proposed it, everyone who heard it pointed out the multiple problems - the fact that there was no way to ensure the oil companies wouldn't simply pass on the cost to consumers, that it wouldn't save consumers much, that it would cost highway maintenance plenty, and that she wouldn't be able to get it through Congress or past the president's desk.

So she's spent all this time and effort selling a policy that she knew from the word go would be dead in the legislative water. Gee, thanks - for nothing. And i she were president, we'd see a lot of this - grand proposals which she knows are doomed to failure, but which allow her to gain political capital before she turns around and blames the failure on external forces - a new vast right-wing conspiracy, foreigners, space aliens or whatever.

She's only doing this as damage control. Everyone knows it's a stupid concept, and she wants to be able to say she really was not for it, after all. In case she still has a political future.

I figured this out about two weeks ago when Hillary/McCain proposed it. If I can figure it out before you, you don't get to be my President.

:shrug: Gotta love the pandering and pimping.

You won't hear another peep about this scam, and you know it. don't be naive.

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You're the one who believes this is a good idea! :rofl:

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This ensures that it will not reach the headlines till the next day when most people are already out to vote. This is just like the NAFTA dishonesty in Ohio.

After the primary she can just stand there and say.. But..But...But I already said this will be difficult to pass.

"Do I think we can get it done, past a veto by President Bush as the ultimate blocker?" she said. "It's obviously a very difficult challenge. But that doesn't mean you don't try."

If that's a flip flop, can we please get more flip-floppers in this party, rather than all these Obamacants.

their only goal.

She got a couple of weeks' publicity out of it, which was what the campaign wanted.

Nobody in Congress is going to follow her on this, and she knows it. So do you.

Summer is here in 19 days. She won't get anywhere with it. It's done.

It was a cheap-ass political stunt, period. Call me cynical.

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Well thats just B/S. She is just opening a back door to slip out of after the primary. How come there was no mention of the "Toughness of getting this done". Dude, anyone can promise anything to get votes!!! What is the reason to promise a solution when there is no hope of getting it through? This is just words then.

That is mostly why i have seen this as pandering since the very beginning. Whether she actually had any intention at all of proposing the legislation, she knew there would be no consensus for it and that she could blame its failure on someone else.

It's actually a win/win for her. If it passes, she can say she's a champion of the working man. If it fails, she can use it as a further illustration of how out-of-touch and elitist her opponents are. I think what she didn't count on, was most people smelling the BS before she let it out of the bag.

There's not even enough Democratic support to get it Bush's desk to Veto.

She KNOWS this and promises it anyway.

She might as well offer us all a new car while she is at it, that has the same chance of happening.

and YOU get a car, and YOU get a car, and YOU get a car............

Which is a much better deal.

and wouldn't respond to hypotheticals about foreign policy?

They called her dodgy, but at least they couldn't pin her down with stuff like this and "obliterate"

Something like that.

Use this against her and paint her as a dishonest typical politician in the upcoming contests.

But his campaign should definitely not let this disappear into the sunset.

Now what the fuck do I do?

Who didn't place her faith with those 'economist' type people? :shrug:

It's hard work catapulting that propaganda!

You see, if the economists were plain, every-day, 'working class' folks, they wouldn't have all that fancy 'edumacation' that shows that a gas tax holiday is more of a benefit to the oil companies then 'regular people'.

It's hard work catapulting the propaganda.

one of the fakest performances by any candidate this election. The woman in the audience nailed her.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax_hybrid.shtml