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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:02 PM
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Score one for Zogby: double digit win for Obama in NC (still "too early to call" Indiana)
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:38 PM by book_worm
update: I think that Zogby was the only pollster to call double-digit victory in NC for Obama. Russert just described NC as a "substantial" victory for Obama.


Hillary will probably take Inidiana. If it were "too close to call" it would mean key precients and exit polls indicate a close race. PA was "too early to call" too, and she ended up winning by 9.2, but I think she will do no better than five points in Indiana.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:03 PM
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1. I thought PA was initially too close to call
So that means Indiana is worse than PA
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:03 PM
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2. No
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:04 PM by Jake3463
Too early too call. We knew we had lost. We were just seeing by how much.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:04 PM
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4. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
Do you ever look on the bright side?

Or just wait for something concrete before predicting the worst?
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nonobadfish Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:22 PM
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20. In PA, MSNBC was "too close to call" and then switched to "too early to call" after about 30 minutes
I take it to mean signs look good for a Hillary victory, sadly. CNN is using too early to call as well tonight...I don't remember what they did in PA.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:30 PM
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23. Then after too early to call, they called HRC in PA
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:04 PM
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3. too close to call means too close to call--PERIOD
Hillary is expected to win, but I bet the new ID law affected a larger number of older voters than younger ones.

As my mom used to say, "wait and see pudding"!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:05 PM
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6. Did you read the article
about the poor 12 old nuns who couldn't vote.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:18 PM
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19. How the fuck do you turn away a nun? That's just bad Karma. Link to article? n/t
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:22 PM
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21. Worse yet
It was a nun working the polls that turned them away.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90GBCNO0&show_article=1
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:05 PM
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5. That is correct... too "early to call" means that Clinton has won IN
Oh well... I guess the expected split is to be expected.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:05 PM
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7. CNN exits has Hillary winning men and women
which means it's pretty much a done deal.

Close, but done.

David
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:05 PM
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8. Halperin says too close to call.
http://thepage.time.com/
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:06 PM
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9. These first precincts are the small rural ones. These are lopsided boxes.
In fact, the numbers AREN'T bad for Obama. They'll be made up.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:07 PM
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10. Indiana is a pretty evenly distributed state in terms of population.
It would take crushing margins out of Marion and Lake Counties.
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:08 PM
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12. HRC 59, BHO 41
He's catching up!
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Secret_Society Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:08 PM
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11. That's what MSNBC does
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:10 PM
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13. Yep. Unfortunately, I think she has won..
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:11 PM
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14. Obama's precincts JUST closed 10 minutes ago
Lets be real.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:15 PM
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15. Terry McAuliffe's body language said it for me: She's in TROUBLE in IN
His mouth was saying one thing, but his eyes were DEAD ... I
think Obama has a chance to pull this out tonight ...
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:15 PM
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16. does CNN say "too early to call" or "too close to call"???
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:15 PM
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17. I heard a couple of polls in IN were staying open later due to
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:17 PM by babylonsister
human error. :eyes: So it might be too early...

Edit: I take it back. Per TPM, polls are closed:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/193528.php
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:16 PM
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18. Actually, I think "too early to call" means "too early to call". nt
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:27 PM
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22. They have no idea with only 11% reporting... they don't have ESP...everyone breathe! nt
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:39 PM
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24. NC for Obama! Substantial victory.
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