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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:31 AM
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Poll question: Ok, so Obama/Clinton- Yes or No?
I don't mind- let's finish this damn race once and for all and offer her the VP spot.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:32 AM
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1. No, no and hell no n/t
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:33 AM
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2. kick n/t
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:39 AM
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14. This kind of post is as repulsive as all the lunatic rightwing attacks
on the Clintons during the '90s, calling them murderers. It's as vile as any of the nonsense Pat Robertson peddled.

Obama needs her to win in November. Whether or not she's on the ticket -- and I believe his best chance of winning the GE is to have her on the ticket -- he needs her support, and her supporters, to win the GE.

And this sort of post by one of his supporters does not help.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:34 AM
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4. No, because Obama/Clinton = DNC/DLC, and DLC = GOP
He would never be able to turn his back on her.

:headbang:
rocknation
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:41 AM
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18. I hear that often. It's almost as if it means something
Both candidates are corporate-friendly centrists. If anything, the biggest disadvantage of the compromise ticket is because they are so similar. Obama/Murray or Obama/Webb might be equally good.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:35 AM
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5. unsure, she will bring tons of votes to the ticket, thats for sure.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:37 AM
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10. and tons more liability
NO! It would betray all those who really demand change.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:39 AM
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16. yah that is the other side of that coin..
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:15 AM
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36. Clinton on the ticket will destroy the down ticket and spike GOP turnout
we don't need to worry about what she'll do next to get the presidency,
especially when Obama is in that office.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:13 PM
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47. The only problem is that it would be McCain's ticket. n/t
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:35 AM
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6. Oh HELL naw!
For many different reasons that I can think of.

But to be nice, he needs a really experienced running mate. For all the "experience" that Hillary claimed, she really doesn't have what he needs to help him.

And that's my *nice* reason. :-)
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:35 AM
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7. No. It would be a weak ticket.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:35 AM
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8. Where's the "No chance in hell" option? :)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:38 AM
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13. agreed. that would be a popular choice.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:36 AM
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9. I can't believe I'm saying this but if she would shut up
with the race baiting and the Obama bashing and Obama wanted her on the ticket, I could see it,otherwise Hell No!
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:37 AM
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11. Doesn't matter what we think
The nominee gets to choose the runningmate.

There are a lot of good pragmatic reasons for Obama to choose Hillary, but it's his choice.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:37 AM
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12. If they can work out their mutual egos, sure
.
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Goodnevil Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:39 AM
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15. YES
It's important to maintain the moderate and conservative members of the party. She represents that. She's got brand name and would be a decent successor for Obama.

Absolutely, yes.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:40 AM
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17. 28 years of BushClinton trickle down corporatist reverse robin hood middle class destroying bullshit
No Clintons on this ticket, or any ticket in the future. Cut the head off the DLC snake and watch it die.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:42 AM
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19. Obama/Edwards
Edited on Wed May-07-08 09:45 AM by MilesColtrane
Edwards strengthens Obamas numbers among white, middle class, rural, conservative Democrats.
And, it helps to refocus his campaign on THE most important issue for most voters...their pocketbooks.

Edwards' progressive populist message blended with Obamas time for change/a new kind of politics would utterly destroy McCain.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:13 AM
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33. Actually I like this option
Edwards will help Obama focus on the issues and not get distracted by the um.. well.. distractions
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:42 AM
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20. NO and NO
Clinton and Obama do not stand a chance against the GOP spin machine.

Due to the ignorance of Democrats who have stuck their heads in the sand during this campaign, we have dwindled down to two people who will guarantee a huge Republican turn out to keep "that woman" or "that black man" out of office.

I'm hearing it now. The Republicans do not like McCain, and they do not want a continuation of the Bush Administration, but they will vote for him to ensure a Dem does not take office.

Instead of doing what's best for our country, we decided to make history instead. And we certainly will, but it won't be a bright spot in history, that's for sure. Some of us know better, those of you who are so gleeful over Obama's success enjoy it while it lasts. You're going to be licking your wounds in November and wondering WTF happened.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:42 AM
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21. People are increasingly casting their votes AGAINST a ticket.
The reason "negative campagning" has any impact whatsoever is that it feeds voter antipathy, not voter empathy. Even on DU, we hear the repeated refrain that we're supposed to vote AGAINST McCain. (I've yet to see a ballot with an 'AGAINST' column.)

Over and over and over again in 2004-2005 I heard folks say "but Kerry would be even worse." Cheney/Bush is an indefensible choice. People voted their antipathy. Swiftboating worked.

Thus, a sizable portion of the electorate looks at a ticket and combines the NEGATIVES - their "unfavorable" opinions - NOT the positives. Baggage ... it's cumulative.

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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:43 AM
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22. Hill and Bill backseat drivers.....
Edited on Wed May-07-08 09:53 AM by Tinksrival
I wouldn't want to do that to Obama.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:44 AM
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23. It simply doesn't work, they compound each others' negatives
Edited on Wed May-07-08 09:46 AM by TragedyandHope
We need a VP that compliments Obama's positives, strengthens his appeal and boosts him in areas where he has less support .
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:21 PM
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49. double post...sorry
Edited on Wed May-07-08 01:22 PM by Fluffdaddy
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:45 AM
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24. Obama would get NOTHING done.. she & Bill would work against him.. they are the antithesis
of everything he stands for and the change we all want to see in D.C. She is a dangerous liability.

In addition, this would be another EIGHT years of Clintons.. then she would run for President again. Do we REALLY want to add another 16 years of the terror and Division of Clintons? I think not.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:47 AM
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25. I'd be ok with it but I think there are better choices that bring more of a balance to the ticket nt
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:48 AM
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26. no, no a thousand times no
for aaaalllllllll the reasons cited in this thread. it is worse than jfk/lbj.
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Goodnevil Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:51 AM
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28. Making her VP
would neuter her effectively in D.C. VP's don't have all that much power and they are forced to live in an observatory...it would remove her from the Senate except in ties.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:42 AM
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41. so would her obviously justifiable commitment
to a nice soft room.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:50 AM
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27. They would be unstoppable...
...if they could convincingly bury the hatchet and acquire some unity.

But I'm not a big fan of Clinton herself, and even less so of dynasties, so I would prefer another veep.
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Goodnevil Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:59 AM
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31. Saying No without a reason
seems closed minded. Elaborate.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:32 AM
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39. I didn't say no. n/t
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:56 AM
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29. Absolutely not. n/t
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:58 AM
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30. For anyone "ready from day one" it's LATE... about 2-months too LATE !!! The answer is:
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:09 AM
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32. It would be a repudiation of what he stands for
Their style of politics is too different. No.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:14 AM
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34. Only Clinton supporters want it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:15 AM
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No.
1. She has nearly bush-like negatives.

2. She has shown she has NO PROBLEM with the politics of personal destruction. Putting her on the ticket is impossible.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:15 AM
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35. Clinton's negatives are too high
chances are she would be a drag on the ticket.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:16 AM
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37. NO! We want to WIN in November... "Why attach to an anchor, when so many kites are available?"
Quote by Nance Greggs.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:19 AM
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38. No. One of her high-profile endorsers instead.
Hillary on the ticket would do damage to Obama's chances in the Fall.

Wesley Clark would be a good choice. Hillary supporter, brings a lot to the table re national security/military affairs.

Hillary as VP would mobilize the crazies in the GOP nearly as much as if she were at the top of the ticket.

- as
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:40 AM
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40. It would be like adding arsenic to the victory champagne.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:43 AM
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42. She contraticts everything he's about. I don't see how he could seriously consider going against
his own campaign message.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:17 PM
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48. Exactly. No way will he screw over his own chances and his message at the same time.
.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:46 AM
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43. I doesn;t make sense to run on change
and then not have a change VP.

Sebelius is the most logical choice.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:48 AM
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44. I don't see anything positive..
she would bring to the ticket. There are plenty of "Democrats" that haven't scorched the earth.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:15 AM
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45. Only if Obama...
wants to feel cold steel in his back for four years. :shrug: He would be insane to make her VP.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:46 PM
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46. only if we want a disaster....n/t
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:21 PM
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50. NO to Hillary Clinton. I will not vote for her for any office. n/t
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:21 PM
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51. No we need a centrist white male from a red/pink State
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:22 PM
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52. No way! We don't need her.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:24 PM
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53. NO.
We need to clean house, and the Clintons come with too much baggage and proably owing too many favors from Bill's escapades.
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