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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:00 AM Original message |
Can Obama win the South?? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. Of course not. The newly-realigned Democratic Party will expand its electoral votes... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Labeling whole areas of our country "bigoted" is what gets Democrats in trouble... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Nice. "We" don' t need them, huh. I'm a Democrat. What the Hell are you? nt |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Someone who doesn't need bigots, just like I said. Duh. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. McCain cancels the "western strategy" - |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. No he doesn't. It's not even clear that he'll carry his own state. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. come on - |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think he can be competitive in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, and Texas |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Georgia |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Hopefully, Florida. Maybe Virginia and Georgia. Not a chance on the rest. nt |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
39. But he won't win any of them. And South Carolina is the most conservative state |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. With a Southern running mate he could get one or two Southern States. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. Probably not. But what he can do is force McCain to spend a lot of money there... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Brilliant analysis. Thank you. nt |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Especially if McCain has a lot less money than Obama |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Exactly. And McCain will almost definitely have less money. |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. No, but it's a little late to worry about that now, isn't it? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. Simply put, no. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
7. Virginia and North Carolina are in play this year I think. Especially if Jim Webb is on the ticket. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
45. No, they won't be in play. But closer than other states in the region. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. As of April 10th, He led Obama by 5 in NC and as of the 13th, by 8 in VA |
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civildisoBDence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. Southern whites voted for Obama in larger numbers than white voters in |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I agree. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Yes, but in Democratic primaries. This is going to be a general election. |
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DMorgan (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. People that vote in primaries show up at General ELections, too |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. Possibly....look at the number of Dems voting compared to GOP voters. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. GA, NC maybe Arkansas - the south west as well |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. And what about the Democrat that won in LA the other day? |
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Ytzak (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
15. He doesn't have to. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
17. Texas will be tough, but I could see him getting Virginia |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. I think this General Election.. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. The GE is a real election, not a caucus |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You never give up, do you? Are you *SURE* you're at the right board? (NT) |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I want a Dem who can win the GE |
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DMorgan (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well then, YOU and a few hundred thousand of your DEM buddies .... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. '...because Hillary has driven her negatives into record terrain during her campaign. (NT) |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Clinton is the winning candidate against McCain |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. I think he could put states with the largest AA populations in play |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
55. No way he will win Alabama. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Didn't work in LA the other day, did it? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. If you are talking Louisiana - that ain't Alabama. |
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Secret_Society (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
24. HIGHLY doubt he can take any southern state |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
25. The important thing is that he will definitely be competitive in the south |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I think GA has the potential to surprise. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. I don't think it does. But I do agree with your words below the subject. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
53. Only in a couple of southern states. But "competitive" isn't enough to win |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
26. No |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. No, no chance |
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shayes51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
28. no |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
29. Some of it |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
30. No, he won't win a single one. Not one. Same deal with Hillary. |
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DMorgan (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Does anyone have any state by state polls? or... |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. From a month ago, down 8 in VA and 5 in NC |
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DMorgan (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Thanks for some actual DATA! But .......who has a crystal ball about polls not changing in |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
50. I think he can put Virginia and Florida in play |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
31. He has a good chance in Georgia. Maybe Virginia |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Depends whether NoVA can overcome rest-of-VA. (NT) |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
34. Nope. No actual Democrat can. (NT) |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. I think that is being a little too pessimistic... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. The West is more Libertarian; the South is just racist, anti-gay, anti-woman, etc. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. I hear their favorite phrase down there is: |
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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yes. |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
52. McCain will probably take AL, no matter who the Dem is. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
61. he`ll win enough to make a difference |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
62. Porbably not, but for some different reasons |
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chyjo (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
63. I would guess |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
65. Doesn't need to. Va will be in play but the Repubs are now the party of the South |
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