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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:35 PM Original message |
this needs to be made clear to everyone regarding Denver and the GE |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's over |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. you're funny |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. "sham undemocratic caucuses" |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
57. they are intentionally undemocratic and were set up that way... if you knew anything about electoral |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
71. What I DO know about "electoral history" is... |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Agreed. EOM |
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Symarip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Man... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. Deleted message |
Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. That was very unneeded and flamebait ingac70 |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Calling caucus contests undemocratic is flamebait to. n/t |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Nope, it's simply opinion.....well, fact actually. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
38. what's a "haint"? |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Doesn't sound like something I'd want to be called |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
70. Sure does... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
78. .... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:38 PM Original message |
You're in denial. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. no ...deep down youy know that what is posted here is the TRUTH and the FACTS |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. ooo-kay. Whatever. Hillary still won't be on the ticket... either end..... |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I looked deep down and no nothing changed. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
73. banky will make it better; |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes, let's make things perfectly clear. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. Look you arent going to do anything here. If you truely think Clinton can win then give some money |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. So...abolish caucuses |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. in your eyes the caucus delegates are not legitimate. Too damn bad for you |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
13. "Sham caucuses" = the rules |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
14. my team scored more than your team.... |
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evlbstrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. And yet... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
36. no they are not |
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DangerousRhythm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
49. They were only acceptable up until Silly Season '08. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
17. Look at that Washington Caucus!!! +26 for Obama |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. I wish you all could have been here... |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. Did Hillary object to caucuses before the Primaries began? |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
19. Caucuses Count |
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Jawja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's Over. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. and THAT is the dirty little secret obama's camp does NOT want known |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. exactly |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. I heard that a "convention" of only 4500 people was going to nominate |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
24. Sorry, you lost me when you threw multiple states under the bus |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. Bitter, party of one, your table is ready. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sorry, but... |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. Hey,elsewhere |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
51. yes while visiting friends in Vegas |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
29. And, if you are truthful with yourself, you know that if the situation |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. and how pray tell do you know that? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. I can recognize partisans. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
30. So tell us what you want us to take from your post. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. I guess Clinton fucked up big time. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. from several smart posts from the last few weeks (by me...) |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
35. In other words, Hillary lost. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
37. Wow. Sham Caucuses. Caucus Democrats Don't Count!!!! |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
40. Why didn't you bring up this issue in 2006 |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
41. Why were caucuses never a problem before this election when |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. The Clinton's were blind-sided by his organizing ability. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
42. Yes, we should change the rules so Hillary wins. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. no we should change the rule so that it is representative of a real democratic system |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. And at what time did Hillary start fighting for these rules to be changed? |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. And you in your important opinion are advocating a retroactive rule change? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
44. so? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
46. Why can't Democrats ever accept the rules? |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
47. Why can't Hillary win the caucuses? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
48. Obama has won 16 primaries, Hillary has won 16 states. n/t |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Yeah, just the big states. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Thank you for posting that. I was looking for that number. nt |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
55. So what exactly needs to be made clear? |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
58. This needs to be made clear -- primaries are not perfect if they don't represent the voters |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
60. Ooh, ooh, I want to play too! Let's apply this math to a primary that Barack won |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. OK, let's just say your right and Obama's win comes from sham caucuses. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. of course not but the superdelgates have to take them into serious consideration |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. The super delegates aren't going to give it to Hillary at this point. |
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cyberswede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Do you honestly think |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
64. Doesn't Obama still lead in the popular vote, even with Florida and Michigan? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
65. But yet not one little Hillbot complained about the caucus format before she lost them all. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. Pack. It. IN! |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
67. So ... you don't like the caucus format? Work to get it eliminated for 2012. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
68. Clinton made 5 big mistakes my friend |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
72. shillbot, it's OVER.... SHE LOST |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
74. Since I don't have a candidate, I am going to look at the facts |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
75. were you this concerned about the Dem Primary rules BEFORE this all started? |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
77. "sham undemocratic caucuses" I needed to read no further in the OP to know it was complete horseshit |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
79. Regarding the idea that the caucus system is a "sham" |
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