"Beware of the simplifiers" - Democratic Underground

GoneOffShore

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Wed May-07-08 08:59 PM
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"Beware of the simplifiers"

Bill Moyers did a great article about this tendency we have to bring politics down to a very low level

in his Journal on PBS.

It's relevant to the discussion that we should be having in this country about race and how it impacts on everyone.

Maybe this should be in GD but because he discusses the Rev Wright "controversy" I think it's relevant to this forum.

It is, however, necessary to read the transcript.

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Nitrogenica

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Wed May-07-08 09:02 PM
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1. Dumb it down, and when you fail claim it's too difficult.

Nobody anticipated failure after failure.

I can't WAIT to take on McCain.

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GoneOffShore

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Thu May-08-08 08:49 AM
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2. Me too.

I guess the thread title just wasn't provocative enough to promote any discussion of Moyers' article.

Thanks for your comment.

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The Night Owl

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Thu May-08-08 09:08 AM
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3. Bill Moyers is correct to point out that the media's treatment...

Edited on Thu May-08-08 09:09 AM by The Night Owl

...of Pastor Wright was, to a certain degree, rooted in racism, but that does not mean that all scrutiny or criticism of Wright is rooted in racism. For instance, I feel perfectly justified in scrutinizing and criticizing Barack Obama's association with Pastor Wright because I have always scrutinized and criticized the relationships politicians have with religious zealots and with religion in general.

Anyway, I thank you for the link to the Moyers article.

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GoneOffShore

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Thu May-08-08 10:42 AM
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4. I agree with you.

The pandering connection between politicians and religion and its reverse always seems at odds with the idea of church state separation.

It is not an area that, I believe, has a place in the public sphere. Ethics, yes. Basic humanity, yes. Doctrine and dogma, no.

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The Night Owl

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Thu May-08-08 10:50 AM
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5. Hey! You changed your screen name.

I didn't even know we can change screen names.

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GoneOffShore

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Thu May-08-08 11:00 AM
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6. ?

My screen name has been the same since I registered.

And I only have one account here.

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The Night Owl

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Thu May-08-08 11:08 AM
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7. Weird. I could have sworn that this thread was started by a poster whose screen name...

Edited on Thu May-08-08 11:08 AM by The Night Owl

...begins with the letter "T" and who has the same avatar as you. I must need more coffee or something.

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jasmine621

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Thu May-08-08 11:11 AM
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8. So, you think Rev Wright was off about the AIDS virus? Read this

http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_115.shtml

I might add that in there is a slew of scientific reports out there that in many ways support Wright's so-called "bizzare allegations."

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GoneOffShore

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Thu May-08-08 05:38 PM
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9. I put those allegations in the same column as alien abductions

Edited on Thu May-08-08 05:40 PM by GoneOffShore

Any links to peer reviewed studies and not wild speculation?

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