Hillary is NOT the best candidate for VP! It would be a disaster! There are others MUCH better

suited for the position.

Hillary would always resent the fact she wasn't elected president.I don't see her sitting in the "2nd seat" position with ease. No. I think Barbara Boxer is MUCH more suitable for the job and Barbara Boxer has the temperament needed for the job!

Barbara Boxer would make an AWESOME VP and I think she is by FAR the best for the job! :bounce:


Biography

U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer

A forceful advocate for families, children, consumers, the environment, and her State of California, Barbara Boxer became a United States Senator in January 1993 after 10 years of service in the House of Representatives. Elected to a third term in 2004, she received more than 6.9 million votes, the highest total for any Senate candidate in American history.

A national leader on environmental protection, Senator Boxer is the first woman to Chair the U.S. Senate’s Committee on Environment and Public Works (EPW). On the Committee, she advocates forcefully for clean air and water, with a particular focus on the fight against global warming. She also Chairs EPW’s Subcommittee on Public Sector Solutions to Global Warming, Oversight, and Children’s Health Protection.

n addition to her work on the EPW Committee, Senator Boxer has won numerous awards for her efforts to create a cleaner, healthier environment. She authored the amendment to the Safe Drinking Water Act ensuring that drinking water standards are set to protect children and other vulnerable populations. She has been a leader in the fight to remove arsenic from drinking water, block oil drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge and along California’s coast, stop the use of human subjects in pesticide testing, and revitalize the Superfund by making polluters – not taxpayers – pay to clean up the toxic waste they leave behind.

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The Senate’s leading defender of a woman’s right to choose, Senator Boxer authored the Freedom of Choice Act of 2004 and helped lead the floor fight for passage of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act. She continues to lead efforts to stop extremists in Congress from weakening a woman’s Constitutional right to choose.

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In addition to her Chairmanship of the Committee on Environment and Public Works, Senator Boxer also serves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and Commerce Committee, is the Democratic Chief Deputy Whip, and serves on the Democratic Policy Committee’s Committee on Oversight and Investigations. She has been married to Stewart Boxer for 45 years. They have two children, a daughter-in-law, and two grandsons.

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she already shares a board position with Barack Obama:

US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Chairman
Joseph R. Biden


Ranking Member
Richard G. Lugar

Christopher J. Dodd
Connecticut

John F. Kerry
Massachusetts

Russell D. Feingold
Wisconsin

Barbara Boxer
California

Bill Nelson
Florida

Barack Obama
Illinois

Robert Menendez
New Jersey

Benjamin L. Cardin
Maryland

Robert P. Casey Jr.
Pennsylvania

Jim Webb
Virginia



Chuck Hagel
Nebraska

Norm Coleman
Minnesota

Bob Corker
Tennessee

George V. Voinovich
Ohio

Lisa Murkowski
Alaska

Jim DeMint
South Carolina

Johnny Isakson
Georgia

David Vitter
Louisiana

John Barrasso
Wyoming


http://foreign.senate.gov/about.html

would be replaced by a republican governor, so it's a non-starter.

:wtf: Hillary doesn't get the spot by default. Sorry. Obama has to have someone who will work with him.

I'm nuts? For pointing out that the governor of California is a republican? What's that got to do with Clinton?

Yeah, I'm the nutty one here. :eyes:

A republican governor?

her replacement is appointed by the Governor.

How could you not know that, and jump all over my reply?

because Arnold might appoint a repub. That's something for California to decide. In the meantime, we have a whole country who needs an awesome VP!

and other reasons why Boxer would not be the best candidate.

It's got nothing to do with this discussion.

how can I honestly think I am having a un-biased conversation with you when I've read so many of your posts regarding your support for Hillary. That's fine and more power to ya. I like Hillary too, but I just don't think she's best for VP.

isn't about HIllary. I'm perfectly capable of discussing politics without making everything about my candidate. It's telling that you CAN'T have a discussion without making this about the candidates.

My views on choosing Boxer as a running mate have absolutely nothing to do with my chosen candidate. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us actually are able to discuss different aspects of politics without our candidate blinders on.

I've been VERY fair about Clinton. I was even on the fence for a long time. I find it interesting as well, that you cannot engage in a conversation without berating someone who doesn't support your candidate. By saying our "blinders" keep us subjective is not fair in this case.

YOU'RE the one who keeps bringing the candidates into this, not me. Geez...

It's a win-win ticket!:bounce: I think Barbara Boxer rocks!

but feel concerned about losing two Senators given the illusion that our paper thin majority in that house can actually get anything accomplished.

:shrug:

After the tone of her campaign and ruthlessness I think she's far too polarizing.

I was thinking that there must be someone cool from the Congress or some state leadership or the private sector who would be appealing without further jeopardizing the Senate's majority.

and I know you weren't arguing for Hillary. It's just that some are and it just makes no sense.

I think you have a great point about someone from state leadership. It's going to be interesting to say the least.

You're the only one bringing it up.

on DU I guess.

the governor of New York is a democrat.

nt

governor or similar office holder) would better balance Obama than a senatorial colleague. Also, someone who could bring a swing state into our column or bring a red state into play would also be good and Boxer isn't strong in that category either.

be the "best" person politically and policy-wise vs who would add the most to the ticket in terms of electability.

Boxer would balance (a little) the conservative orientation of Sen. Obama, but the arguments against her ("losing" two senators and the fact that America might not yet be ready for a non-white Prez AND a woman Veep) are compelling.

We will just have to wait until the party leaders tell us.

when picking a VP.

Two senators serving on the foreign relations commitee isn't much foreign policy for a ticket.

She's from California, so that doesn't help.

Hillary supporters aren't going to jump for a ticket just because there's a woman on it. If it's not Hillary they couldn't care less. You can't replace Hillary with another woman and expect that to be the answer.

Reagan democrat males won't care at all for this ticket.

Boxer is also considered very liberal, Obama needs someone seen as less liberal as a running mate.

We love Barbara Boxer, but this isn't a politically smart ticket.

A sure loser, in my opinion.

Guess not:eyes:

"Hillary supporters aren't going to jump for a ticket just because there's a woman on it. If it's not Hillary they couldn't care less. You can't replace Hillary with another woman and expect that to be the answer."

You've got to fucking kidding right? This isn't a factor in my choice whatsoever.:eyes:

:)

And Obama is a centrist, not a liberal. If he's perceived as a liberal, we have work to do or the party keeps crawling to the right.

Let's not carry the RW's water.

I don't think we have time to introduce another woman who isn't already well known. It's too bad that Feinstein is such a bad actor because someone with her portfolio would be a good fit, imho.

Otherwise, I like Tom Harkin, or someone from the Midwest or the South -- (and Southern CA is pretty much the South except for Hollywood) of about his age and experience.

you're probably right and that's a shame.

But any of the politicians who endorsed Obama, who took the risk of alienating the powerful and vindictive Clintons, would work.

If Obama chooses Hillary or any of the politicians who supported her, he is making a lie the very foundation of his campaign: changing politics in D.C.

Boxer is from California, which has a repuke Governor. Arnuld would put a repuke in her spot. I lover Boxer but we can't afford to lose another senator. We already will lose one when Obama is elected.

what about that one? Remember when she "found her voice" crying...:eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVlwH7-05Fk

So, are you saying a woman can't cry?

All you Oba-maniacs can counter an argument with is:

"but Hillary"

"but Hillary"

"but Hillary"

"but Hillary"

"but Hillary"