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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:40 PM
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So if Florida and Michigan were seated as is
what would that do to Hillary's numbers? And what would that do to Barack's numbers> :shrug:

Thanks.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:43 PM
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1. It's give an inch, take a mile with these people.
Giving an inch on Florida and Michigan will only fan the flames of other schemes. They can be seated once it's clear they will have no impact on the outcome. It's basically clear now, so I almost think that once more superdelegates announce, this may as well be done.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:43 PM
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2. Hillary is certainly still behind but it does create a more narrow margin
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:45 PM
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3. MI was told our votes wouldn't go towards delegates, then we had our faux vote
I hope no one wants to trick us by using our faux votes to dole out delegates, just to try to swindle more delegates for Hillary.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:50 PM
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5. I think there'd be more right to outrage if that happened
than if they don't seat them at all. That'd be ridiculous if they essentially said "your votes are not to count", then months later they say "ah, I guess they do count now".
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:47 PM
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4. Hillary would probably net around 30 delegates in FL. MI is different.
Because Uncommitted is just that. They (if seated) are free to vote for whomever (though one assumes they woudl gravitate to Obama).

Hillary would be looking at a max net of 50 pledged delegates which would still leave her behind.

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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:00 PM
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6. Moves the gap from 152.5 down to 32.5, net 120 delegates for Clinton
Current Pledged delegate count
Obama: 1,590.5
Clinton: 1426.5

This lead of 164 is Obama's highest pledged delegate lead of the primary.

Current Superdelegate count
Obama: 258
Clinton: 269.5

This lead of 11.5 for Clinton is the lowest of the primary

So without FL and MI the count is
Obama: 1,848.5
Clinton: 1,696

FL Pledged count
Obama: 67
Clinton: 105

MI Pledged count
Obama: 0
Clinton: 73

Which would make the pledged numbers
Obama: 1657.5
Clinton: 1604.5

Lead down to 53.5

FL and MI Superdelegate count
Obama: 6
Clinton: 15

Which would make the superdelegate count
Obama: 264
Clinton: 284.5

For an overall total of
Obama: 1921.5
Clinton: 1889

Edwards would move from 19 to 32 delegates, and there would be 55 uncommitted delegates.
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