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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:29 AM
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A question about Edwards' speech
"I want to talk about our next president. For those who
want to know what kind of leader he'll be, I want to take you
back about thirty years. When John Kerry graduated college, he
volunteered for military service. He volunteered to go to
Vietnam and to captain a swift boat, one of the most dangerous
duties you could have. And as a result he was wounded and
honored for his valor.

If you have any question about what he's made of, you need to
spend three minutes with the men who served with him then and
stand by him today.

They saw up close what he's made of. They saw him reach down
and pull one of his men from the river and save his life. And
in the heat of battle, they saw him decide in an instant to
turn his boat around, drive it straight through an enemy
position, and chase down the enemy to save his crew.

Decisive. Strong. Aren't these the traits you want in a
Commander in Chief?"

Did it strike anyone else as odd that Edwards went into a
lengthy story about Kerry's military experience to prove that
Kerry is decisive and strong and then concludes his speech
with: 'aren't these the traits you want in a Commander in
Chief?'  Yet Edwards ran for President himself while lacking
this experience and anyway for the public to get a grasp on
his decisiveness and/or strength.  Maybe he has been shown
that yes these are indeed the traits we want in a President
because the public didn't select him to be President (but
overwhelmingly like him as VP), but why did he run for
President in the first place.  I'm glad the conservative media
hasn't jumped on this.    
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:34 AM
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1. I think it's part of the deal
He gets to be VP, and in return he plays by Kerry's rules and puts out Kerry's message. It's part of playing second banana to the pres. candidate.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:37 AM
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2. I think in another part of the speech he says something about character
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 09:39 AM by AP
being evidenced by what you do awith your life. That's the point he was trying to make. He's not saying that you can only serve the public if you fought on the battlefield. He saying look at what we've done with our lives if you want to know what we will do.

Edwards presented himself the exact same way. He said throughtout the campaign, "look at what I did with my life if you want to know me."

Compare that to a guy like Westly (from CA) or a woman like Cantwell who try to say being a dot com exec is a great biography. Edwards says that he fought for the economic welll being of Americans who worked for a living at every turn in his life. It's the same argument as the one he makes about Kerry.

Bush neither served his country nor has he ever fought to make a difference in the lives of average americans who needed a champion agains the powerful forces oppressing him. That's the important contrast.

So, the RW press have nothing to say about this, but it's a nice try by you to once again try to work out a smear. But it's a stretch. Back to the drawing board for you.
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:40 AM
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3. Kerry's military experience is just one example of being strong and
decisive. One shouldn't conclude that that is the only way a person can demonstrate these characteristics.

My observation with the question Edwards asked is....why is it in the form of a question. Plus, I didn't notice this when listening to his speech, but now that I see it in written form, it seems "decisive and strong" draws too much of a parallel to Bush. Decisive and strong can be bad if you're listening to the wrong information - or are too pig-headed to listen to opposing viewpoints (or refuse to stay informed by doing a little reading.)

All in all, I really liked Edwards's speech. It moved me to tears in a couple of places.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:44 AM
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4. Well said
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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:12 AM
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5. Decisive and strong...

They're fighting back and trying to counter the false Rethug message that Kerry is a flipflopper on issues.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:33 AM
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6. "You judge their values based upon what they’ve spent their life doing."
Use that measure to judge Kerry and Edwards, then use it to judge Bush and Cheney.

It's not just about military service, but about walking the walkinstead of talking the talk.

Forget that Cheney has no military service, forget that Bush's service is under question. What else have they done with their lives?

If such a thing as corporate responsibility exists, Bush/Cheney represent it as its worst examples. From manipulating the government and American citizens for corporate profiteering, to pushing for military policy that favors corporations over citizens, to failing at every executive position ever held only to be bailed at by your daddy and his buddies, Bush and Cheney represent the lowest standards of service to America and others, and the greatest example of service to self.

John Edwards hit the nail directly on the head.
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