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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:44 PM
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On to the GENERAL ELECTION
the math is unassailable.

We have a presumptive nominee, even if he is not going to declare victory YET.

The math has been there since February but after last Tuesday... the math is too high (75% and above)

And the campaign is out of money and loaning even more money...

No use in arguing with HRC supporters about why they should vote for Obama... they are not ready... period.

It is now up to them... to first grieve and then come around...

Most of them will come to this conclusion by November... and a few will not vote or cross party lines... not my first rodeo and this is the reality of it

But at this point... it is a waste of my time to even discuss with them these issues. They still believe their candidate can make it... and for that.. I salute them.

That is what is so nice about being a neutral observer after my two candidates, one after the other, left stage left.

But now it is on to November

We have a candidate... not a perfect one... hell I differ with him on quite a bit of policy, just as I differ with her on quite a bit of policy. I am way to the left of either of them, (thanks to George Bush) since they are both centrist and policy wise, there's not that much of a difference between them. But... I'd rather have a Dem appoint the next Justices to the USSC, amongst other issues. So even though they are far from my ideal candidates, I will vote for the nominee and that right now is BO.

So it is time to start framing the issues against grandpa... and in fact the first shoot out today regarding and bearings is the first shot of the GE.

It it time to move on... and if some folks cannot do that for the moment, fine... most of them will join us... and in fact a few of them will do such without ever admitting it in polite company. But for the moment, the best choice is to let them to their echo chamber. Not because discussing things is not fun... but because this is not productive any more.

To the Obama Supporters, your candidate won... move on... your candidate, for all intents and purposes has. (See McCain, and bearings and age... baffles the mind)

To Clinton Supporters... soon (in relative terms) your candidate will do what she needs to do for the party... I hope that when the time comes, you realize why, and line up behind the nominee... but as far as I am concerned, it is a waste of my time and bandwidth to even discuss the color of the sky with you guys at this point. Been there, done that... by the way.

Oh and the name calling has to stop on one side, or the other... the winning side should... even if that means gritting teeth and not posting on any of these threads... or calling them a sign of desperation

That is all

Nadin
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:01 AM
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1. kick
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:05 AM
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2. 90% of me says move-on, but there is a 10% fear factor that the worst is yet to come.
Edited on Sat May-10-08 12:06 AM by asSEENonTV
That fear is enough to keep a few people on ignore for fear of ranting replies.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:07 AM
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3. Yep, use the ignore feature if you must
and now the canvasing and calls is for November...

But, don't engage the at tops twenty folks who will not let go and are that noisy on this board...

The echo will be enough to replicate for them the treatment she is now getting in DC
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:14 AM
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4. well said, it is time to look to November and how we are all to join together
heal, and concentrate on our tool boxes, so full of arrows pointed directly at the very people who are in control of our govt. now. McSmirk is in our focus or should be.
We need to study him and his carefully so as to be equipped with necessary tools.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:16 AM
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5. You welcome, and it is time
to move on and if this means giving the silent treatment to some folks, so be it
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:40 AM
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7. you can catch more flies with honey
or so I've found in my many years on earth. We are all Democrats, and we need to end the war. We need to try to heal wounds. We can only do that with kindness.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 08:46 PM
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9. There about twenty folks on tis board that are not interested in the honey
soon they will be ready, in their own time

And a few, will never be ready
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:34 AM
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6. In the 2000 election, our whore media demonized Gore
and praised Bush. They painted Gore as a helpless serial liar, and he was unstable if serial liar's not enough. We didn't like it when the whore media made our decisions for us.

In the 2004 primaries, remember what our whore media did to Howard Dean? Our whore media demonized Dean, saying he was unstable, and quite possibly wild enough to eat a young child. Remember how they played his scream and laughed at him? We didn't like it when the whore media made our decisions for us.

In the 2004 general election, remember what our whore media did to John Kerry? They painted Kerry as a demented liar who claimed he went into battle in Vietnam, while praising Bush's brave service to our country in the Air National Guard. We didn't like it when the whore media made our decisions for us.

Now it's 2008, and once again, our whore media is up to their same,old tricks. They have demonized HRC and elevated and praised Obama.Never asking any tough questions about anything important. Playing up the fact he gave a speech in 2002 against the Iraq war. Never asked where was his speech against the war in 2003? Never asked where his speech against the war was in 2004? Never asked where his speech against the war was in 2005? Never once asked where his speech against the war was in 2006? Never onced asked obama why he did not filibuster any funding of the war in 2007? Never once asked obama why he did not filibuster the war funds in 2008? Never have they and Bill was right, it is a fairy tale the whoremedia never asked him questions.

They demonized Gore, Dean and Kerry, then praised Obama to get Hillary out of the race - and we let them do that?

MANY hf you obama people stood and applauded while they fabricated horseshit racism charges against the best friends Black people ever had in the White House.If obama believed any of what he is saying then why did he ever allow the racial divisiness his campaign launched against Hillary and Bill? Why didn't he fire Jesse Jackson Jr. when he used the racial card against HRC? The fact is obama can give one hell of a speech, but that is all he has done. obama doesn't live up to his words. They are empty bullshit.

Soon the whoremedia if obama gets the nomination are going to demonize Obama and praise McCain and you'll be shocked - but this will be what happens.














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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 08:45 PM
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8. Ah yes, and ironic that when many of us
said back in January the press was choosing by not letting certain candidates on the stage, or cutting their airtime severely, you, amongst others, laughed

After all, it is your %^$? candidate that cannot run a campaign

So go cry somehwere else ok...

On to the General Election. this dog and pony show IS OVER
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:47 PM
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10. a wise person once said:
"But for the moment, the best choice is to let them to their echo chamber. Not because discussing things is not fun... but because this is not productive any more."
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