Evidence that Hillary's coalition has shrunk substantially

Respond if

1) At one time you considered voting for her in the primary but wouldn't do so now
2) You defended the Clinton's in the 1990's and Hillary in recent years and find her indefensible now

I think this group is rather large, especially here --if Hillary cannot count on us as part of her coalition during the primaries perhaps that explains why she is losing.

I want to demonstrate to the Hillary supporters that many of us were defending her and possibly voting for her not very long ago and it's her style of politics and attacks on fellow Democrats that sent us scurrying to other candidates (or at least removed her from consideration altogether).

I also want to show that the idea that Hillary automatically counts reliable Democrats as part of her coalition is not a sound assumption.

note: I absolutely will vote for the nominee, no matter what. Please do not post here if you don't plan to vote for the nominee, by the way --I'm not fomenting that.

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at least until she apologizes.

post a single message...no time for reading or discussion.

and forego 25 more debates? :hide:

Only time for cut and paste.

:rofl:

indeed, a show that Hillary is yesterdays news.

appeared nearly a dozen times this morning.

:shrug:

isn't that illegal?

Now I can barely stand the sight of them.

i guess i voted "wrong" :eyes:

but will secretly vote McCain in November. What rubbish!

Very sad to watch them piss all over their own previous achievements.

I took a lot of heat from my rwing relatives for sticking up for Bill during Monica-gate. I still like them just get pissed off a lot easier now:(

(IF John Kerry didn't run) up until she threw Kerry under the bus on October 31, 2006.

To be fair, even then it depended on who else was running, but Clinton put herself in last place by that action.

Later on, I considered that I shouldn't hold a grudge for that one instance, that I need to look at the whole person, and not let one (possibly anomalous) instant define her character for me. But then many incidents during the campaign reinforced what I thought I saw on 10/31/06, so she never won me back.

However, if somehow in November it becomes a choice of Clinton or McCain, there is no way in hell I am voting for McCain or wasting my vote. I ** will ** vote for the Democratic nominee.

she's burning bridges

she looks nuts

deluded

and in a state of denial.

how exactly is this supposed to bring "new people" into the hillary flock?

I am so disappointed in them now. I am still not sure whether they have always been like this and we just had our rose colored glasses on or if they have changed. Either way, I don't think I will ever again think of the Clintons the way I used to. It's sad.

Probably through 2003 - maybe into 2004.

The other thing is that it is not just that many here, who are party activist or regulars have left her, she left us. The leaked comment speaking of Move-On and likely all of us who see a role for internet activism. It was damning that before - when she thought she could win us - she pandered at times like the 2007 Take Back America. (She was more HRC when booed at the 2006 one.) This leaked comment likely reflected how she felt of those who pushed to get Congress to set a deadline and get out of Iraq, filibuster Alito, or impeach or censure Bush. It was key because she had passed up criticizing actions, but felt comfortable criticizing people.

It exposed how disingenuous she was. She was one of the people who refused to censure the September 2007 Move On ad that played with Petraeous's name. She could have comfortably used the cover given by Kerry's principled disapproval of the personal attack on Petraeous or Biden's strong denunciation. Biden and especially Kerry, who has praised the work of Moveon, they spoke against an action that their personal moral codes said was wrong without attacking the people. HRC attacked the people - for one action, endorsing her opponent.

We have heard the phrase Sista Solijah ever since it was Bill Clinton's action - but I had never thought what it really meant until it was used about HRC's comment on Move On. Though I think that a misapplication, because I don't think that was an intentional leak - thus not an intended action. What the words have come to mean is the rejection of an unpopular part of your own base - for political reasons. The last is the key - it is not for your own principles.

I am a sixty-something white feminist who very much wanted to see a woman elected as president.

Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton has unequivocally demonstrated that she is not the woman I want as president. She believes she is entitled to the women's vote simply because she is a woman. That is not enough for me. I want honesty and integrity too. She has shown that she will do anything and claim anything to get the nomination. Her false claims about Bosnia was the most obvious but not the most egregious. Her attempts to use the Reverend Wright against Obama and, worse, current statements claiming support from "hardworking, White American workers"" to encourage white working class voters to vote for her because she is white show she is using race baiting to destroy Obama's chances for the nomination and the presidency.

Viewing her history closely as a result of this campaign, I see that Clinton served on the board of Directors of Wal-Mart for six years, a company that grossly exploits women workers, depriving them of deserved promotions, refusing them full time hours so they won't have to pay for medical insurance, and actively fighting their efforts at unionization. Indeed, Clinton's chief campaign strategist, Mark Penn, made his money by fighting unionization campaigns. Her wealthy corporate supporters are not known for their concern about American women workers -- they are busy shipping their jobs to third world countries, thanks to Clinton's Free Trade Agreements.

The Clinton administration did very little to help women unionize and positively took food out of their mouths by passing an extremely anti-women, anti-children Welfare Reform Act. This Act took mothers away from their children and placed them in child-care, run by other low-paid women who had to leave their own children when forced to work. Some progress!

Was Clinton appointed to the Board of Wal-Mart because she was such an outstanding lawyer or, far more likely, because her husband was Governor of Arkansas at the time? Was Clinton elected to the Senate because of her outstanding political qualifications or, more likely, because of the massive name recognition she had as wife of the President of the United States?

Undoubtedly she is a bright, hard working woman, but neither her intelligence nor her hard work got her votes in the Democratic primaries, it was her name recognition as the wife of the former President of the United States.

As a feminist, I will vote for an honest woman candidate who has worked to improve the economic status of other women, Hillary Clinton is not that person.

During the impeachment proceedings, I spent many whole days e-mailing representatives and writing letters to the editor in defense of Bill Clinton.

After watching Hillary Clinton's appallingly mis-managed presidential campaign, to say nothing about her loathsome attacks on Barack Obama, I am disgusted with them. They are deliberately working to demolish Barack Obama's -- and the Democratic Party's chances -- at winning the 2008 election. Hillary and her surrogates are spouting statements that are almost identical to those used by segregationist George Wallace in his presidential campaign.

After watching this presidential campaign, I do not want the Clintons serving in any elected position, ever.

I supported Hillary through our Missouri primary. Afterwards, I didn't like the attitude and I didn't like the snarky message. I started listening to Obama more. Pretty soon, I was on board.

I am definitely a post-feminist and I am insulted that she is playing her gender now to garner sympathy. That worked once early on and I'll admit, I bit. Not again.

I live in Ohio, thought it would be over by March, so I didn't even consider who to vote for. All I wanted was a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket that I could vote for in November. Then came SC, and all the other ugly comments from the kitchen sink that followed. The last straw, just before the OH primary, was that outrageous "shame on you!" spectacle that cut the umbilical cord forever. They have both disillusioned me so much there's no going back.

I was going to vote for HRC in the Texas primary up until the negative comments from her and Bill started coming out. I was totally shocked that they would use race as a wedge, especially since the Black community supported them through the Monicagate mess. They have truly disappointed me.

As I have never supported Hillary for any office above Senator, but I would definitely have voted for her if she'd won the nomination. :shrug: