Is the Kerry being a C student thing true?

Where did you get this?

I'm almost sure Kerry got better grades than Bush if that's what you're trying to find out.

Anyways, Kerry has served this country more than Bush could ever hope to.

to back it up or not.

he finished first in his class at Yale. I'm sure you need straight A's for that.

in emails and other places online.

I want some kind of proof.

it's just the latest right-wing lie.

Usually, that means his grades weren't too bad.

In 1962, Kerry entered Yale University. There he majored in political science and graduated with a B.A. in 1966. He also played on the soccer, hockey, lacrosse, and fencing teams; in addition, he took flying lessons. To earn extra money during the summers, he loaded trucks in a grocery warehouse and sold encyclopedias door to door.

In his sophomore year Kerry became president of the Yale Political Union. His involvement with the Political Union gave him an opportunity to be involved with important issues of the day, such as the civil rights movement and President Kennedy's New Frontier program. Under the guidance of the speaking coach and history professor Rollin Osterweis, Kerry won dozens of debate contests against other college students from across the nation. In March 1965, as the Vietnam War escalated, he won the Ten Eyck prize as the best orator in the junior class for a speech that was critical of U.S. foreign policy.

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http://www.wordiq.com/definition/John_Kerry#Yale_University

Kerry was admitted to law school. That means he probably had pretty good grades as a university student. Bush, in contrast, could not get into law school. I have heard that is whey he went to business school to get and MBA. I graduated from university in the 1960s. At that time, majoring in business got just a little more respect than majoring in basketweaving. Business majors were looked down on and considered to be rather unintelligent.

Bush did not get in to the University of Texas's law school, while Kerry was admitted to and graduated from Harvard Law School with a J.D. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Harvard probably was considered at least a *notch* above UT at that time.

Not quite Harvard Law....

Still, BU must have been better than UT back then, no?

but the University Of Texas is a better than average state university....

UT is normally in the top ten to 15 law schools in the country.

And their undergraduate programs are strong to....

Yes, I'm shouting.

When UT was founded, it was funded by a bunch of land in west Texas.

Come to find out, that land had oil under it (Permian Basin) so the University of Texas endowment has historically been second only to that of Harvard.

I'm sure the twenty years of mostly Republican administrations we've had in Texas has negatively affected that, but we used to be able to afford really, really fine professors.

Meanwhile, our tuition used to be really, really low, too.

I'm sure most of you know the book Tour of Duty by Doug Brinkley.
Here is a good book review that is almost a complete summary of the book.

Passage about Kerry being the VALEDICTORIAN of his class at Yale

Brinkley notes the parallels with Kennedy, but wisely refuses to exaggerate them. Certainly Kerry shared more with JFK than a monogram and Massachusetts. Dazzled by the idealism of Camelot, Kerry was a charter New Frontiersman, ready to pay any price and bear any burden. And there, of course, is where it gets interesting. The striving, preppy Kerry arrived at Yale in 1962 and graduated in 1966, before the war turned sour. By February of his senior year, he joined the navy. Even then, Kerry was skeptical about the war, which he expressed as class valedictorian. But he and his friends signed up anyway.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040327/BKKERY27/TPEntertainment/Books

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If a DUer gets that awful e-mail and doesn't feel like refuting the whole damn thing, just write back.... John Kerry was valedictorian of his class so the author of this e-mail starts off with a big lie, and it's a waste of time to even bother with the rest of it because whoever wrote this trash is obviously a nut ( and a liar)

I didn't know that.

These people are wild. We need a nationally televised DU/FR debate. They should really have to come out from under their rocks and say these things.

He was valedictorian at Yale, and a brilliant man.

Bush was the one with the C's according to interviews with his profs.

comforting.

I think Gore's SAT's were in the 1,400s and Bush's SAT's were in the 1,200s...



Bush is not naturally stupid.... He's intentionally stupid which is infinitely worse....

that same e-mail said Kerry was too dumb for an advanced degree like Shrub, who got an MBA....the freepers are to stupid to know a law degree is harder to get and takes longer to achieve than an MBA.

It's all made up crap. They don't have facts so they make crap up and since they are shoveling to people who don't research stuff themselves, they believe it.

It's all CRAP!

Bush's grades weren't good enough to get into U of Texas Law School. Kerry's were good enough to go to law school. Enough said.

That would be a good response from Edwards when the right wingers bust him for being a lawyer. "That's 'cause I'm smarter than Bush!"

So how far wrong can these liars be?

Hillary Clinton gave the farewell speech at her college graduation and I don't believe she graduated first in her class--she did get excellent grades however. I know the guy who gave ours definitely was not an A student although he was a class leader. I'm guessing Kerry got good grades and was also a class leader type.

One irony about admissions is that often schools that are the hardest to get into are the easiest to stay in while schools that are easy to get into often are quite easy to flunk out of.

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Albert Einstein drooped out of High school. I never believed that the measure of someones intelligence is resonated it there school marks.

such as Kerry carried a C average in his freshman year or something.

Like dealing with Nazi or Soviet Propaganda arms that Uncle Karl's Blast E-mailers so closely resemble, the safest assumption is that they are lying.

LYING.