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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:09 PM
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Sam Nunn for VP ?
Anyone else find this to be a good fit? I love his national security credentials.

Samuel Augustus Nunn, Jr. (born September 8, 1938) is an American businessman and politician. Currently the co-chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the NTI (Nuclear Threat Initiative), a charitable organization working to reduce the global threats from nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, Nunn served for twenty-four years as a United States Senator from Georgia (1972 until 1997) as a member of the Democratic Party. His political experience and strong credentials on national defense reportedly put him into consideration as a potential running mate for Democratic candidate John Kerry in the 2004 Presidential election, and have fueled rumors that he could be the running mate of Democratic frontrunner Barack Obama in 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Nunn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTI

NTI Co-Chairman Sam Nunn speaks to an international conference on "Achieving the Vision of a World Free of Nuclear Weapons" in Oslo, Norway
Former Sen. Sam Nunn spoke to conference participants from 29 countries about the vision of a world free of nuclear weapons and the steps that should be taken to reduce nuclear dangers and begin to make that vision a reality.

http://www.nti.org/

Steps to a safer world

The accelerating spread of nuclear weapons, nuclear know-how and nuclear material has brought us to a nuclear tipping point. We face a very real possibility that the deadliest weapons ever invented could fall into dangerous hands.

The steps we are taking now to address these threats are not adequate to the danger. With nuclear weapons more widely available, deterrence is decreasingly effective and increasingly hazardous.

Reassertion of the vision of a world free of nuclear weapons and practical measures toward achieving that goal would be, and would be perceived as, a bold initiative consistent with America's moral heritage. The effort could have a profoundly positive impact on the security of future generations. Without the bold vision, the actions will not be perceived as fair or urgent. Without the actions, the vision will not be perceived as realistic or possible.

Former Secretary of State George P. Shultz, former Secretary of Defense William J. Perry, former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and former Senator Sam Nunn have enumerated and endorsed ten steps — practical measures that would themselves reduce nuclear dangers right away.

http://www.nuclearsecurityproject.org/site/c.mjJXJbMMIoE/b.3534735/
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:09 PM
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1. you're going to catch all kinds of hell for this post. (nt)
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:12 PM
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4. lol ooookay, care to explain why? If Jimmy Carter can endorse him so can I!
Edited on Mon May-12-08 05:14 PM by frickaline
:P
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:30 PM
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12. I was a fan of Nunn for VP, but he's too divisive a figure for many.
Gay people hate him.

I've settled on Webb as my first choice.

He brings many of the same things that Nunn brings w/o a lot of the baggage:

-demographically: Like Nunn, he's a white male southerner popular in a red state that could be flipped for Obama with his help. That's what I think Obama needs in a VP.

-experience-wise: He's got the military and foreign policy experience.

Webb is also a war hero which neutralizes McCain's biggest strength. The fact that he served in the Reagan administration will give him good crossover appeal and fits in with Obama's message of bipartisanship.

-on issues: he's been progressive but doesn't come across as a "liberal." Again I think the fact that he's associated with the Reagan administration makes him look like more of a moderate.

-he's also younger than Nunn and that dovetails more with Obama's message of change and Obama's youth.

The downside is that he's not as well known as Nunn outside of his state and doesn't have the same amount of respect and gravitas as Nunn.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:44 PM
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15. I see, thanks for the insightful post
I find Webb a good choice also and I'd prefer him to Clark.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:10 PM
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2. Noooooooooooo!!!!!!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:11 PM
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3. Damn, I Just Went Into REM Sleep Before I Got Past The Thread Title
Shit, I'll try again:evilgrin:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:14 PM
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5. Wow. There really IS a Stupidest VP Idea contest going on.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 05:14 PM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: Subject typo.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:14 PM
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8. thx so much for the content free post. no really. nt
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:14 PM
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6. Sam Nunn gets forced on every Democratic Candidate for President
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:14 PM
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7. Nunn would be a fine choice
But I doubt McCain will choose him.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:16 PM
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10. he endorsed Barack in April and is a Democrat, what are you talking about? nt
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:15 PM
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20. Of course he is.
No matter any of this:

"Overall, Nunn was a moderate-to-conservative Democrat<5> who often broke with his party on a host of social and economic issues. He strongly opposed the budget bill of 1993, which included provisions to raise taxes in order to reduce the deficit. He was also vehement in his opposition to President Bill Clinton's proposal to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military.<6><7> He voted in favor of school prayer, capping punitive damage awards, amending the U.S. Constitution to require a balanced budget, and limiting death penalty appeals. On certain issues like abortion, the environment, gun control, and affirmative action, Nunn took a more moderate line. He consistently voted in favor of increased immigration.<8> One of his most controversial votes was his vote against the Gulf War. <9>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Nunn

He supports Obama, therefore, he is a good Democrat. :sarcasm:
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:23 PM
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21. hmm ... yeah I see your point there
I guess it was too good to be true.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:15 PM
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9. my sleeper in this race is Tim Kaine (D) VA- Gov.
He has been stumping for Obama for a long time and is always in the middle of the Obama-machine
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:27 PM
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11. He could select Jesus. As a lifelong Dem, I will not vote for Obama.
I don't believe him and his audacity of hope nonsense. He and Tom Daschle (and Daschle's lobbyist wife) are liars. We have allowed the media to manipulate us into Obama frenzy. He criticizes Bush, and rightly so, but he slams Hillary Clinton through his surrogates -- namely, Axelrod, the Karl Rove of the Democratic Party, and then tries to pretend that he's above all of this. Give me a break. He's as down and dirty as any politician.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:32 PM
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13. HE IS DLC!!!!11!1 nt
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:33 PM
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14. Nunn is a bad choice simply because he is conservative, one of Lieberman's pitfalls.
A conservative choice for VP is bad for several reasons: it doesn't energize the base, and if something happens to you, that person becomes president.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:46 PM
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16. You Obama supporters sure love the homophobes. Misogyny is the root of homophobia.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:47 PM
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17. There's a blast from the past!
I wasn't even aware that he was still alive.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:12 PM
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18. No on Sam Nunn
19th century homophobes don't represent "change" very well, in my humble opinion.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:31 PM
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19. Nunn is a bigot, plain and simple
Gays, with full justificiation, would likely sit out the race in droves if he were put on the ticket. I think he is also against abortion rights which would make pro choice voters very angry.
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