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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:15 PM
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Oh my, Hillary has one strong West Virginia accent!
Was just watching MSNBC (Tweety) and he showed a clip of Hillary speaking to her supporters. The drawl was so thick that I must congratulate her voice coach.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:17 PM
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1. I remember a pre campaign speech she gave in a Southern Black church
She came across sounding like Scarlett's Black maid from Gone With the Wind.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:19 PM
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4. yeah
where she was quoting an old spiritual.

It's pretty common to change speech patterns depending on the audience - Obama certainly does it. I'd wager most politicians do.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:27 PM
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13. Hillary could wipe her ass with the Constitution and you would defend it
saying, "We needed to redraft it anyway, the paper was old..."
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:29 PM
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14. Are you saying Obama doesn't
do this?

Why the personal attack totally devoid of any argument?
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:34 PM
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15. Because he's an Obama supporter and that's how they do it. nt
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:37 PM
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18. Only some of them
but this one specializes in it. I've never seen a reasoned post on any topic from him. Just slams, insults, childish shit.
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salbi Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:17 PM
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58. I don't know about Obama, but most do it
I don't know if I've heard Obama pick up a regional accent, but it's not uncommon to do. I know I've done it when visiting family in the south, or even when I spent a summer in the U.K. Some people just pick up accents.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:57 PM
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66. Obama always has an accent. People just mistake Kansan-Hawaian for Southern
this is not a "personal attack totally devoid of any argument"

it is an observation based on your history of posts
you defend Hillary's lowest blows consistently
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:30 AM
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77. explain how her accent
is a low blow. It's nonsensical.

It's just an attack on me for no good reason. The fact is, Obama does it, too. Most politicians do. How is me pointing that out defending a low-blow from clinton? That's not rational.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:51 PM
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26. It's not whether or not a politician varies his or her delivery. It's whether or not...
...he or she sounds phony doing it. And she sounds phony doing it.

NGU.


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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:12 PM
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31. HILLARY SUPPORTERS: You don't understand something fundamental.
It doesn't matter if she talks with an accent or not or why.

The only thing that matters is the PERCEPTION that she is insincere.

It's not what she meant... it's what the public hears.

This crystallizes my point all along about Clinton and her campaign. They have a horrible problem with hearing the truth, handling constructive criticism, and adjusting - even over MINOR issues like speaking with an accent or not. THAT was the main pitfall of her campaign.

When people started telling her that they don't like the negativity all she had to do was tweak her message, change her delivery, choose her words better. Instead, she refused to adjust and just turned up the volume.

More recently they received feedback to knock it off with the racial comments. She might not be a racist, but she is giving MANY people the perception that she is. She is offending a lot of people. Not enemies. Not Obama operatives. VOTERS.

People tried to tell them at many different points that their message was coming off wrong. But in their world, any criticism means you're an enemy of Hillary. They're not the enemy! They're just the messenger!

It's as if dissent is not tolerated. If they had listened to any feedback at any point along the way and made SLIGHT adjustments, things WOULD have been different. I'm sure of it.

I don't get it. Why ignore criticism and refuse to adjust? You gotta know that won't work.
:shrug:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:03 AM
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69. That nails it.
Thanks!
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:26 PM
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39. Having Wagered Your Soul On Hillary's Campaign & Lost, Maybe You Should Swear Off Gambling
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:32 AM
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78. How have I wagered my soul on Clinton's campaign?
I've said throughout this primary season that I'm sitting pretty, because I like both candidates. I think either one will make a strong candidate, and a great president.

How is that wagering my soul? By preferring one to the other and defending her against what I consider to be unfair attacks? That's ridiculous.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:15 AM
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87. Jim, I can always count on you for the soundbites, lol
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:21 PM
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59. Ah, come on
Hillary takes these speech pattern changes to an entirely new level. Most people try to do it subtly, but Hillary does it so over the top it's hilarious. I love that one clip of her in the South when she's saying, "I'm not tired yet." LOL! Snake oil chameleon! :rofl:
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:46 AM
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81. How come you haven't donated yet?
Just curious.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:22 PM
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60. Speech patterns, yes. As in formal vs. informal English
however Hillary seems to turn into the Democratic (or is it Republican now?) party's version of Meryl Streep. She's been through more accents than Paris Hilton has Chihuahuas.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:50 PM
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63. ah yes...
I think it was 'I don' feel no ways ti'ed'...

piece of work...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:33 AM
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79. That was a quote
it wasn't her words. but you knew that.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:20 PM
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5. Well, she's a real chameleon.
Changes her accent.
Changes her position on EVERYTHING.
Was born in every state.

I do not like her.
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gabby garcia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:24 PM
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8. ditto...
I'm with you, Genevieve!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:27 PM
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11. You've never heard Obama's speech
change depending on his crowd?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:52 PM
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27. His delivery. The intensity of his natural accent. Not his whole regional twang!
:rofl:

NGU.


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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:44 PM
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22. Hillary don't know nothing 'bout birthing no babies Ms Scarlett
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:09 PM
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30. ...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:44 PM
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43. ....
:D

:hug:
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:58 PM
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49. Well I declare!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:14 PM
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56. *SLAP*
I can't believe no one has followed up with the next line in the movie. :(
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:41 AM
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67. lol yanno
:D
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:28 PM
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40. yeah. the negro spiritual. it was a low point that few have reached.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:52 PM
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48. lmao!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:35 AM
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80. She was quoting an old Negro Spiritual. You mock the old gospel song's lyrics?
That's quite unenlightened.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:34 AM
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89. no, I mock the fakey blackcent she adopted for the occasion and others...
:rofl:

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:55 AM
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90. The old Negro spirituals are a valuable part our of Nation's cultural heritage.
Edited on Tue May-13-08 11:55 AM by MethuenProgressive
It's very telling to read a "progressive" label the verbatim traditional lyrics as "blackcent".
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:18 PM
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2. Obama can sound downrigh preachy when he needs to ... it's called
politics. It's the name and it will never "change".
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:41 PM
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20. what hillary does isn't poltics, it's lying.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:19 PM
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3. Well, she was born and bred in West Virginia.
She had to dodge Union snipers while working the graveyard shift in the kitchen.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:21 PM
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6. Hillary the Pander Bear


In PA she was a hunter

In OH she was against NAFTA
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:24 PM
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7. "If George Bush doesn't end this war, I will,"
is
replaced by a threat to "obliterate" Iran
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:25 PM
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9. The woman is just so full of sh*t, it's a wonder her eyes aren't brown....er..
Edited on Mon May-12-08 06:25 PM by monmouth
oops, I think they already are!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:26 PM
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10. I think they are blue, actually.
:eyes:
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:27 PM
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12. Contacts...nt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:49 PM
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25. Brown according to numerous reports
Morris: Clinton Changed Eye Color: "As we all know, Hillary has changed her hair, her eye color, her dress, and her face more frequently than a professional model."

Enlarge this photo and you'll see they're quite brown.

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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:17 PM
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33. Believe it, or not, that is the nicest message I have EVA seen you post about Hillary
Good on ya.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:20 PM
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34. They look the same color as Bill's in that old, faded photo
And I know his are blue.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:25 PM
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38. (And bill isn't wearing a brown dress...)
Eye color can be disguised with attire.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:58 PM
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50. I just looked at a bunch of Google images
I say her eyes are hazel, which would explain how they might appear to be either blue or brown.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:13 PM
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55. :-)
Thanks for doing the grunt-work.

:hug:
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:35 PM
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16. And Obama is wearing a flag pin. So? nt
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:43 PM
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21. How does wearing a flag pin equate to the lying that hillary is doing?
Her phoney accents that change from state to state are lies. She thinks that the American people are stupid.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:58 PM
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29. Obama speaks like a Black preacher when he is in his hood.
Not so much when he is speaking to a white audience. He said it wasn't necessary to wear a flag pin blah blah blah. He is wearing one today. Did he lie to us? They're both politicians and I say again ...so?
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:00 PM
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52. Not all black people live in the hood...muffy
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:23 AM
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76. obama wears a hood?
these kids and their fads
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:35 PM
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17. She's a Good Ole Girl.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:37 PM
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19. She's being "forced" to fit in!
What a leader! :patriot: :sarcasm:

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:17 AM
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74. Barack is a HUSSI-an??? Wow! Who knew?


Next thing you know, they'll be claiming he's a Hessian!

Tesha
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:46 PM
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23. Nooooooooooooo.....
she didn't? Tell me she didn't.

:rofl: :rofl:
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:47 PM
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24. Meh, I think everyone does this.
I think it is just a thing people sometimes do. I know I do it sometimes and I don't even realize it. I think Hillary takes it over the top sometimes though ("I ain't no ways tired.")
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:33 PM
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42. Absolutely, they do.
I remember the right wing lunatics being in a tizzy when Al Gore would get fired up speaking in black churches. And heck, I speak quite a bit differently at work than I do when I'm not at work.

It's human nature, not pandering. If it were forced - maybe - but considering that Clinton's spent a lot of time in Arkansas, I doubt that it was.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:57 PM
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28. It seems her pandering knows no limits. My bet: some of her supporters...
will see through this and move closer to at least considering Obama.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:14 PM
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32. Did her daddy have black lung disease from working in a coal mine?
:cry:
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Mitt Chovick Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:21 PM
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35. She don't feel no ways tirrrrrrrrrrrred (n/t)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:22 PM
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36. I do it when I get around my WV kin...
Shoot, I do it when I think about them! In my mind, I sound jes exactly like 'em.

I do the same with the Iowa cousins, and the Nawlins kin too.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:22 PM
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37. Did she speak about growing up there?
Another one of her home towns?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:08 AM
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71. She lived in Arkansas for many years
remember, her husband was governor there.

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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:29 PM
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41. Didn't Barack use a different voice when he talked in that Alabama church last year?
He can also be criticized on this.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:45 PM
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44. Yes. I think he totally faked the articulate speech
Pander bear in the worst form.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:49 PM
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62. . . . .
:rofl:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:45 PM
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45. Uhm that would be her Hillarybilly accent.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:47 PM
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46. ain't it sum-pin? She has strong ties to WV..since she was a little girl
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:48 PM
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47. damn it
now I have to watch him to hear her

I have a strong WV accent, and I haven't lived there for nearly ten years


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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:59 PM
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51. I know. Geez, Meryl Streep should start getting worried! nt
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:00 PM
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53. Was she sporting a flag pin like Obama just decided to start wearing again?
Have you heard Obama speak differently in Idaho than Chicago?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:04 PM
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54. did she have her pantsuit on with the fringed jacket?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:14 PM
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57. What should a 60-year old, slighly-overweight woman wear to not be mocked by you?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:38 PM
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61. she could wear jeans, a dress, a skirt.
I am older and fatter.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:53 PM
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64. Does Chanel make 'jeans'?
Just Kidding!

:toast:
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:53 PM
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65. Who gives a shit?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:01 AM
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68. It's her 8th home
She has an obscure relative that lived there for a few months, so it's kinda like she's from there.
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Freedom Train Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:06 AM
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70. Video or audio link?
'Cause it sounds like she'd be hot. ;)
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:09 AM
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72. WHY do people fall for this?
In some circles, this would be called MOCKING.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:17 AM
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73. I can't wait for Hillary "Meryl Streep" Clinton to hit Puerto Rico
and tell us all about how she's really a Latina as she sports yet another new accent.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:53 AM
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84. I understand Hillary's brushing up on her Eva Perron accent for Puerto Rico...
In the hopes that they won't cry for her, of course...
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:06 AM
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75. Yeah and those stupid people in West Virginia and Kentucky
won't care that she is faking it! They don't care that she would do or say anything to win. They don't care that one minute she has an accent and the next minute she does not. They don't care that she pretends to support the gas tax. They simply don't care. So once Obama is the nominee, if they don't vote for him I don't care if they lose their house, don't have healthcare and have to send their child to Iraq. If you are that damn stupid then you won't get my sympathy.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:48 AM
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82. Isn't she from West Virginia?
Oh yeah, that was New York, I mean Arkansas, I mean Pennsylvania, I mean Illinois, I mean Indiana, I mean any other state she can pander to.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:51 AM
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83. I understand the Clinton campaign had WV roadkill for dinner last night...
Edited on Tue May-13-08 08:52 AM by sfam
And they liked it, dammit. In fact, Wolfson commented that he thought they should have been eating roadkill since Iowa - had they done this, they would have cut down on their dunkin' donuts bill.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:38 AM
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85. One night, you eat the roadkill. Another night... (NT)
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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:23 AM
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88. I'm a West Virginian Who Has Never Had Road Kill?
Do you mean you can do other things besides eating road kill? Why didn't you finish the thought? I don't really find the idea of eating a dead possum appealing, perhaps the other activities might be more enjoyable?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:09 PM
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91. In a few weeks, Hillary (and her campaign) will be the (political) roadkill, run over...
...by circumstances.

Tesha
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:40 AM
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86. Clinton clinton clinton clinton clinton chameleon,
she comes and gooooes, she comes and go-oh-oh-ohes.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:10 PM
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93. Is *THAT* where she's getting her fashion advice?

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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:09 PM
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92. Y'all aren't fit to lick Hillary Clinton's boots.
Edited on Tue May-13-08 12:10 PM by Perry Logan
Question of the Day: Do Clintophobes ever get sore lips from sneering at their betters?
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