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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:22 PM
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Mike Malloy says Obama/Clark is the ticket which will bury Grandpa McLoony
Clark is on my short list, and I think it would be a strong ticket.

Your thoughts?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:23 PM
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1. I think I like this the best so far...but I must see him come out for
Obama soon..
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:30 PM
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2. I always felt like Clark was with Clinton out of loyalty or calculation. He just never has seemed
to fit over there with the Clinton foreign policy based on what he said before he jumped on the Clinton bandwagon. IMO He and Obama fit much better together.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:34 PM
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4. Clark is from Little Rock, and I think he's been friends with the Clintons for years
So that's why he sided with Hillary. I would think that Clark would be different from the Lanny Davis/Harold Ickes/Carville/Begala types though, and do what was right for the country, over what serves Hillary's ego, at this point in time when the contest is over.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:18 PM
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46. he and like 100 (hyperbole but not by much) admirals and generals endorsed Clinton, not Obama......
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:31 PM
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3. I think Obama's VP choice depends on his priorities
While its true McCain will lay claim to military experience, is that something Obama wants (or needs) to match?

It seems to me that Obama's notion of change is to move us away from our military adventures, replacing it with an emphasis on resolving international issues with a foreign policy that strives to use high level negotiations.

Wouldnt a foreign policy expert be a better choice then?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:38 PM
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8. That's why Richardson is also on my short list
I think either of them would be good for pre-empting right wing attacks on alleged "weaknesses". But if Clark was Veep, Richardson could be Secretary of State.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:05 PM
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16. DING DING DING We have a winner!!! Exactly right.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 11:06 PM by cliffordu
And Edwards for HHS czar...he could re-write the book.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:16 PM
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24. Even better than that
Edwards as Attorney General, ripping the corporatists a new asshole. Kucinich at HHS. Although then we'd have to replace his seat in Congress.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:24 PM
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27. YES!!! Perfect!!
YOU Rawk!!

:headbang:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:52 PM
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43. Just thinking of Edwards as AG would make one get all.....'excited'
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:59 PM
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39. That's what I've been thinking lately...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:33 PM
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42. Yep. We already know how to turn a military hero into a coward.
But match any diplomat to Mr. "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" and there's no contest.

FWIW, Clark has both military and FoPo cred.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:35 PM
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5. i like him better than Jim Webb
and we woudln't have to worry about taking someone out of an important elected position that republicans could take .
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:39 PM
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9. That's an excellent point
Get the military background without putting a crucial Senate seat at risk. Plus, Jim Webb is about to become the Senior Senator from Virginia!

I can dig it... and it telegraphs to voters that Obama is serious about getting out of this war, responsibly, and, as he says, "with as much care as there was carelessness getting in."
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:36 PM
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6. If Obama is being honest about getting us out of Iraq
there is no point in having Clark on the ticket.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:42 PM
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11. Who would know better how to end a military occupation than a General?
Actually, I would expect President Obama to consult with any of the retired generals (the ones who are not Chimp ass-kissers) for their ideas how to go about removing the troops.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:52 PM
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14. I'm sure the military people who are on the ground in Iraq as we speak
will have some ideas on the subject.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:30 PM
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41. A peacenik maybe? The question is purely rhetorical
Edited on Tue May-13-08 03:30 PM by marekjed
and you could reverse it to equal but opposite effect: Who would know better how to start a new military occupation than a General? It really cuts both ways.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:27 PM
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28. That would be the MAIN reason to have Clark on the ticket
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ooga booga Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:37 PM
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7. Obama/Clark would be a dream ticket in my book
Wes Clark has been solidly in the Hillary camp, so he wouldn't come out and play until Hillary has gone -- whenever that may be. A Rhodes Scholar who was also a four star general is nearly always going to be a good choice.

Barak Obama and those around him have been very, very smart, and they're where they are for a reason. The chances that Wesley Clark gets the offer AND accepts may not be that great, but whoever lands on the ticket will be a smart choice.

John Edwards was a good choice in 2004 in my opinion. The problem was at the top of the ticket in my view.

Then, back in 2000, Al Gore picking Joe Lieberman really doesn't make much sense with the benefit of a 2008 perspective. Gore didn't need help in New England. If he'd had a running mate that could have nailed down -- say FLORIDA -- things might have played out differently.

Barak Obama is unique among Democrats, because he wants the job, he's smart enough to handle the job AND he's smart enough to get himself ELECTED to office. That's Change I can believe in!!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:41 PM
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10. Mike Malloy is a smart guy.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:42 PM
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12. I think it would be tough to beat. My father is a Hillary supporter but he liked Clark a lot.
I suspect he could appeal to a lot of other Hillary supporters, plus many others as well.
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rove karl rove Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:12 PM
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21. yes Clark would attract the Hillary people
Women really like Clark, and he'd make a good military answer to McCain.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:43 PM
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13. I think Clark is good. Will help heal Clinton wounds and he brings serious FP gravitas without
overwhelming Obama's position like a Nunn would do and actually make Obama look weaker than he is in reality.

Clark should be seriously considered. I would just want to know if he can make certain states more competitive, like PA, OH, and MO 3 of our keys to winning.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:54 PM
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15. This year is shaping up to be an economy year.
Good for dems. The repugs are going to try and make it about Terra, which will be bad. All Obama has to do is say, "Hey, McCain, didn't you vote for that War that is costing America trillions of dollars?" everytime grandpa brings up terrorism.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:06 PM
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17. I love Clark .... that would make me smile n/t
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:07 PM
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18. Mike Malloy doesn't know what he's talking about.
No ticket will "bury" McLame, and Barack needs a governor, someone who's done the things he's never done.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:09 PM
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19. Wes Clark?
Boy, I just don't know. He was pretty visible and consistent in his support for Hillary. He's probably on Obama's short list, but I just can't see him pulling a "Bill Richardson." He comes across as so loyal and measured. I could see him as Secretary of State or Defense which would also be acceptable and "forgivable" from Hill/Bill's point of view. Jim Webb should stay right where he is - that was such a hard fought contest.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:10 PM
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20. Maybe.
I supported Clark in 2004 but his support of Hillary makes me nervous.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:13 PM
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22. I have been touting that ticket. I even started a thread about it this weekend. n/t
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:15 PM
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23. I wish - I really do! .. . eom
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:18 PM
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25. This would make me feel better about our chances in the Fall.
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:23 PM
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26. The point is to win in November
if Clark can help make that happen I'm all for it...
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:27 AM
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29. Music to my ears.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:29 AM
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30. I am still bitter over Clark endorsing Hillary
I feel like he sold out, going from pushing his WESPAC "Stop War with Iran" to signing up with "Obliterate Iran Hillary."

Tell me why I should feel comfortable with Clark on Obama's ticket?
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:32 AM
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31. Bert and Ernie would beat McLoony.
Peanut Butter and Jelly would beat McLoony. It's not that close. Especially now that Bob Barr is running as a Libertarian (Probably trying to rid America of all people from Khazikstan after his run-in with Borat).
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:37 AM
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34. I'm not sure about that one.
I don't know if America's ready for a gay Muppet President yet :(
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:37 AM
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32. Malloy is 100% correct!
Although I would like the ticket reversed myself, I still think it would be a good one!
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:37 AM
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33. He's my pick for sure. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:01 AM
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35. don't think he will be Obama's choice
and don't think Clark would help the ticket
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:04 AM
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36. Sebelius!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:18 AM
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37. I think its definitely a viable option.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:27 AM
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38. I'd be
VERY happy with that. :D
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merkins Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:45 PM
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40. A Clinton surrogate? No thanks
Sibelius or Richardson is the Ticket.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:54 PM
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44. More shallow thinking
There ARE other considerations in this world that trump Clinton hatred, though you sometimes wouldn't know it from looking at this board.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:14 PM
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45. Malloy is right--and I respect his opinion on this---
Edited on Tue May-13-08 04:17 PM by tokenlib
--he probably took the time to learn more about Clark..
Clark has an awesome resume---and progressive leanings---

I was really disappointed in his support for Hillary--but I can understand it--loyalty to his former Commander in Chief, Arkansas ties-- but Wes Clark is in spite of that--one of the brightest and capable people out there. And he knows the meaning of doing ones duty.
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