The exit polls tonight should be interesting

I predict a high number of Clinton voters will say they wont vote for Obama if he wins.

It seems to be a recurring pattern. Clinton supporters constantly say they will not support obama in a higher % than obama supporters say it about clinton.

I think that if you took the number of Obama's supporters that wouldn't support Clinton and subtracted it from the number of clinton supporters that wont support Obama you would have a pretty decent idea of the number of people voting based on race.

What else explains the discrepancy in those numbers?

The vast majority of Clinton supporters will support Obama.

This is the "I'm moving to Canada" effect.

Obama supporters such as myself can say we'll vote for Clinton if she's the nominee, because we know full well she'll never be the nominee.

and played the "poor me"/pity/ faux persecution factor to the hilt, such that she's made Obama the antichrist in the eyes of some of her supporters.

No matter how much logic they are standing against, they can still find a way to believe what they want.

:eyeroll:

I've never said I wouldn't vote for Obama and I don't personally know any Clinton supporters who say otherwise.

I cant wait to hear those.

WV voters are 2:1 registered Democratic yet voted for Bush in 2000 (52 - 45) and 2004 (56 - 43).

Several West Virginians that I know (relatives too) refuse to put a black person in the White House. They will vote for Hillary and then McCain in the
General Election.

I'd love to see an exit poll of West Virginians who believe Obama is a Muslim and swore in on the Koran.

who wouldn't have voted for Hillary, either?

"Where did you hear Obama is a Muslim and his Wife/Mother is an atheist?"

Answer: "In church, of course! Where else?"

As a West Virginian, I can tell you I've heard this a LOT. And each time, I ask, "where did you hear that?" and the answer, without fail, is "In church."

Like the blood libels of old, this is a modernized version, with "Muslim" substituted for "Jew," with both perpetrated by the Religion Industry.


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I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'd like to have some idea of why you think it is. I can't see where that would mean that the "discrepancy factor" equals racists.

I've noted the higher # of Obama supporters who would support Hillary, and I thought that it was related to the fact that Hillary has actively demonized Obama and his supporters, and played the pity/faux persecution factor to the hilt. In my experience, Americans are big on fair play (even though it seldom really occurs) and would be more resistant to someone who they perceived as having been unfair to their candidate.

But I'm interested in reading your reasoning because it would be an interest explanation.

Hard to know where to actually begin on this. Like you when I first looked at it I thought well that makes sense she bashes him daily, its no surprise her supporters feel that way. I also think theres something to be said for the idea that her supporters feel more vulnerable to a loss right now and so they are protesting more loudly.

I am not so sure though about this. if you read the board here its pretty clear that hillary supporters feel every bit as wounded by Obama as Obama supporters feel wounded by her. The level of outrage I think reaches pretty similar levels despite my being on the Obama side of the fence.

Despite my dislike of hillary's campaign and some of her votes, I do recognize the fact that she IS an attractive candidate to many people and the majority of them vote for her because she is more attractive to them than Obama.

I guess when it comes down to it I see them as fairly similar candidates in many ways, I think when this thing began most people would have been thrilled with either one of them. In time i think the thrill for a lot of people has been lost for one side or another but I don't think the underlying ideology is any different when you get to the heart of the voters desires. This in my head puts them on a very similar footing when it comes to their average base voter, despite the obvious differences in the demographics they are carrying. I think that for the most part those demographics appear mostly because of personal identification issues such as the way one speaks or looks or feels to a particular voter. I think the people they appeal to on those levels are enough to tip the categories to levels where we can point a finger at them.

Which all leads me back to the differing levels of rejection. Given what I have said above that I think for the majority of the voters it has come down to a personal style sort of decision and not really one of choosing the lesser of the two evils. I am starting to lean to wards the idea that the discrepancy is racism.

The China pattern thing flew right over my head though.

much to the chagrin of west virginia voters and our chances in that state come november.

well I shouldnt say that. I am concerned at the level of racism still evident in this race.

Obama is going to start looking very good to America as soon as this dem sideshow is over. Mcain is a walking campaign disaster he is going to lose in a big way, racists or not.

33% will vote for McCain and the rest will stay home


Pathetic

and there it is.

What is the Clinton rationalization for that?

white people prefer Hillary
most Hillary supporters want cheaper gasoline and think she can magically make it so