Will hillary be another lieberman or zell miller?

Its beginning to look that way to me she is now changing the way the numbers are counted and has said if it doesn't add up...

:thumbsdown:

Next I expect her to take a shot of whiskey and challenge Tweety to a duel in Denver.

Waiting to find out if he'll be their token Speaker this year.

But I think she will encourage anger among some of her supporters by planting the idea of a raw deal. That's unfortunate I think because it's unnecessary.

or her record. It makes me wonder why you are attempting to strip her of that democratic, progressive label? She has worked so hard for the party and for civil rights. It makes me wonder your motivation.

You don't want her to be a "we" but rather a "them." So, you re-define, re-create, and then spew hatred at your made-up person.

Odd.

with her.

There are republicans and there are democrats. There is no place in the party for a "third way". If she wants to follow a "third way" she and Joe can go start their own party.

She IS a "them" by her own choice.

her campaign tactics, not on her record or positions. I realize you probably don't think there was anything in her campaign that was "right wingish", but looking at it from the other side of the isle she has made some major blunders. The 3am ad, the experience comments, the use of the word "white" when she speaks of working Americans. Many people who supported her in the beginning got turned off by her use of Rovian cheap shots. You may not agree with the assessment but that's where it comes from.

can you see or even hear what she is doing. She is changing the amounts of delegates needed, she lying saying that obama took his name off of the ballot in michigan because he said he couldn't win. She wants to go to the convention because she is a sore loser and she is acting like Pat Buchanan...

and you HATE Clinton for politics and Minimize, justify, blame Clinton when Obama does the very same thing.

"Changing amount of delegates needed." She is changing them? Since when does a DEMOCRAT try to keep people's votes from counting? And you know damn well that if it would help Obama and the roles were reversed, he would be shouting that Clinton was trying to disenfranchise voters.

"Wants to go to the convention because she is sore loser" I think you need a history lesson:

A reminder
Posted by wyldwolf on Wed May-14-08 02:36 PM
In 1980 Ted Kennedy never dropped out. He went to the convention with 1,225 delegates. Carter had 1,981. 122 delegates were uncommitted. Kennedy had even less of a chance to secure the nomination than Clinton has today. Kennedy went so far as to try and get delegates to change their allegiance while the convention was happening! Yet his supporters then, and even many "progressives" today, respect Kennedy for the principle of his futile fight.
And when Carter secured the nomination, and Kennedy refused to stand with him and raise his hand in victory as is traditional, where were the howls of outrage then? Well, from the left there was stone cold silence. No cries of party division from the left. No idiotic proclamations that the "Kennedys (Clintons) don't give a damn about our party" from the left. Kennedy was treated as a hero.
If it's such a horrid thing now, when will Ted Kennedy apologize for the side show he put on in 1980 at Madison Square Garden when he was down by over 700 delegates?


Now, I do happen to agree that Hillary should pack it in and get behind Obama for the good of the party. But these childish over-the-top temper tantrums coming from the left and directed at Clinton for doing something she is perfectly allowed to do based on party rules adds no credibility to the bloggers that do them. They should also cease... for the good of the party.

Sad. Sad. Sad. to see that you cannot support a candidate without dehumanizing the opponent.

is it so that hard to for you to handle the truth, she said these things herself...Obama has not changed the rules you seem to be out or touch like your candidate...

She is changing the amounts of delegates needed, she lying saying that obama took his name off of the ballot in michigan because he said he couldn't win. She wants to go to the convention because she is a sore loser and she is acting like Pat Buchanan..

While I support Obama not Hillary, she has a solid record of supporting the Democratic party's position on legislation the vast vast majority of the time. Unlike Zell and, these days, Lieberman.

for The Goddess of Peace? :thumbsdown:

Ethically, she already has by endorsing McCain, using racist RW tactics against Obama, and so on.

I doubt she will leave the Democratic Party for the Republican Party like Joe. Why? Because the Republican party is hemorrhaging and losing all its power. And Clinton has nothing to gain from them anymore.

She only cares for power - not you, not me, not US.

paraphrased at least, but pretty close to what I heard. Thats pretty unforgivable.

she wants to own and control it to much.

Will Obama be another Michael Dukakis or a Jimmy Carter?

Hopefully, she's shortened her career as a political hack with her campaign antics.

We have to be fair. We can't compare Hillary to those two schmucks.