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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:53 PM
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Debbie Wasserman Schultz
was just on MSNBC disparaging NARAL for endorsing Obama. Why do this when she knows they both share the same 100% record on pro-choice? She claims the women in congress feel "abandoned." What about all of the women voting for Obama, like myself, who believe in pro-choice?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:53 PM
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1. she's gotten weird lately
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:18 PM
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48. Clintinitus...
Cackle in the ears....
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:49 PM
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64. i thought it was a shrill plea for money...
(SORRY, TOO EASY! :shrug:)
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:24 PM
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50. She works for the Clinton campaign, did she disclose that?
or did CNN Clinton news network ask?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:44 PM
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54. it usually says it in the text box.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:44 PM
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55. it usually says it in the text box.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:17 PM
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70. Sad. She made such a good impression on me during the Terry Schiavo dustup,
Edited on Thu May-15-08 08:18 PM by rocknation
I saw her as the next Obama.

:(
rocknation
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:54 PM
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2. Right here with you, and I am HAPPY that NARAL made a decision for Obama.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:55 PM
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7. same here
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:54 PM
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3. Did anyone bother to correct her?
doubtful.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:04 PM
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22. Of course not..
they're rarely corrected these days, especially by people like Nora O. The only people who correct them are shamefully C.M. of all people and K.O.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:54 PM
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4. It's like a bunch of little kids throwing a tantrum when they don't get their way. nt
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:54 PM
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5. She has been a real disappointment since this race began.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:55 PM
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6. I never knew how much of a whiner she is. She's not helping herself. nt
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:56 PM
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8. But see, it's not about being "pro-choice" or even about women - it's about Hillary, for her. -eom
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:56 PM
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9. Debbie is right!!
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:06 PM
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27. About what?
Her main argument is they should support Hillary because she's a girl, like us. That's an insane reason to support or not support someone. Debbie isn't anything but trying to further the divisions we're already experiencing. More of the "Hillary or nobody for President" garbage.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:16 PM
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34. You are lying. Debbie talked of Hillary's long record of working with
reproductive rights advocates. get a grip
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:54 PM
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43. I am NOT lying..
she threw that in there as an aside, while leaving out the fact that Obama's record is 100% as well. She is just leading the way for the Hillary or nobody crowd. I have a grip. I'm voting for the Democrat. Your nasty response speaks to YOUR character, not mine.

G'day. :)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:59 PM
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65. ha ha I call
out posters. too bad for you.

have a good day
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:44 PM
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53. dont' waste your breath - RPHE
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:56 PM
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10. How DARE they endorse a male??
:eyes: After all, everyone knows males should just STFU regarding abortion.

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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:10 PM
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32. That's what makes me angry..
you would think they would applaud his efforts especially because he IS a male when their records are identical. Women like her make women seem irrational when they advocate voting for Hillary just because she's the female in the race and it's so embarrassing.

"Women in congress feel abandoned..." I bet she hasn't even consulted with any of them to find out how they feel, just presumes to speak for everyone.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:40 PM
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52. As a liberal first and foremost, "identity politics" disgusts me.
The notion that I, as a "white male," am somehow obliged to adhere to some specious "white male agenda" is inferred by the stance that females 'must' vote for females and blacks 'must' vote for blacks and so on. I reject the notion. Likewise, I reject the notion that I'm somehow not 'welcome' as an equal in my support for a black or a female. This is exactly the kind of divisiveness that I believe Obama is decrying ... hopefully with sincerity. It's NOT the adversarial politics of right (privilege) vs. left (people) that I hear him ignoring, in that the 'right' is all about divisions ... the age-old "divide and conquer" strategy of colonialists and wealthy plutocrats. I'm a liberal because I DON'T support privilege ... not the privilege of wealth and not the privilege of straights and not the privilege of males and not the privilege of Christians and not the privilege of whites. None. Not even in alliances.

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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:20 PM
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60. As a liberal white woman,
Edited on Thu May-15-08 03:22 PM by graycem
it embarrasses me when another female implies I should support Hillary because I'm a white female. It reinforces the claims that women are emotional and less intelligent, and I hate what that implies. I can be emotional, but usually my brain trumps my heart, and to suggest I should vote for the person "most like me" instead of on my principles, asks me to ignore my own thoughts for someone else's political agenda. No thanks to that. I don't like being bullied by men, and I damned sure don't like being bullied by women, especially with some of the comments now being hurled at Obama endorsers like NARAL. Pretty petty and the people posting those comments really have no idea how they're hurting their own cause and painting women as irrational and jaded against men, reenforcing the enemy's slur of femi-nazi. Hope they're really proud of themselves.

And I agree about the divisiveness. He called attention to the Republican tactics of using wedge issues to define our elections and now fellow Democrats are using the same tactics. I really can't believe it's happening. I thought we were better than they are, I thought our ideas were better. I guess maybe the things they say about the Democratic party as a whole, has a grain of truth to it. *sigh*
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:56 PM
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11. W-S has her batting average down to about .100 (10% for your non-baseballers)...
she's only on target about florida environmentally...

she has become a DINO in nearly all other matters...especially the races her nearby fellow dems are waging...

too much of a hill-shill for her own good...

right station, wrong train...
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:21 PM
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36. she withheld funds from dems
so her GOP buddies could stay in office once endorsing a republican over a dem in a race
shes over the shark pen as i write
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:05 PM
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69. Make that THREE
The Diaz-Balcharts from Miami and Ross. All repukes, all endorsed by DWS rather than Dem challengers. She is quite the disapointment, and I no longer take her shrilling seriously.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:57 PM
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12. She's one of the more annoying Hill Shills, and that's saying a lot.
Yes, she can't attack the endorsement on issues, so she has to go to the "they owe it to Hillary" argument.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:57 PM
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13. She wants Hillary to cheat and now she whines like a spoiled brat
I've lost all respect for Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She is a transparent whiner. She should be ashamed of herself.

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:58 PM
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14. So many Judases, so little time n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:58 PM
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15. For SHAME! Does she think for a moment such censor would do HRC any good?
:thumbsdown:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:58 PM
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16. The timing of it was sort of a slap in the face.
Nobody really benefitted from this.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:02 PM
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19. Hey, HRC and her surrogates would figuratively "cut Obama's throat" THEN IF he gets up
and prepares to fight back THEY WHINE "don't hurt us because we're girls."

HRC and her surrogates are, IMO, the worst kind of low-life GUTTER fighters. Don't show an ounce of sympathy lest she STRIKE OUT when we are at our weakest.

It's just VILE. = There's no other description of such "Mercenary Type Perspective."
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:58 PM
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17. She said that NARAL should only endorse 100 % people and there is daylight between Obama and Clinton
Except Obama has a 100 percent rating. Fuck her.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:06 PM
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26. Then she is a fucking liar & a monster for trying to trick women that way. -eom
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:59 PM
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18. She's the one who abandoned fellow Democrats...
running against her Republican "friends" in Florida. What a piece of work.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:03 PM
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20. I Wonder What She Thought She's Get Out Of The Deal?
Up to now, she was a party fav, then she rogue and joined forces with Nelson. What was her motivation?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:05 PM
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23. Sweet Whispers from the HRC campaign of PROMISES for increased political power ...
Bank on it! ;)
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:03 PM
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21. My understanding is NARAL was choosing between Obama & McCain
given that I believe they probably chose correctly.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:05 PM
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24. She also said that Edwards is a super delegate he is not
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:05 PM
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25. "At the end of the day"
Once an appearance is fine but she makes me nuts using that phrase over and over.

So yeah, I change the channel when I see her now. But I did note that her sparkle is gone. She looked defeated last night on CNN with King.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:06 PM
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28. Such a trooper, that Wasserman-Schultz. I don't know how she does it,
what with all the campaigning for Florida Republicans that she does.

I hope she gets hit by a fucking car.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:07 PM
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29. Debbie picks and choices which Dems to support. She won't even support some FL Dems running
against weakened Republicans in FL because the Republicans are her friends!
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:07 PM
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30. Wasserman Schultz is a neo-con. n/t
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:08 PM
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31. Sure she is....
:crazy:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:17 PM
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35. Proof it or you are lying!!
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:28 PM
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39. endorses republicans proof
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/03/economy-not-mia.html

doesnt help dems win against republicans is even on wikipedia


Campaign 2008
Wasserman Schultz announced her support of Hillary Clinton for President in the 2008 election, and in June of 2007 was named one of Clinton's national campaign co-chairs.

Wasserman Schultz was also named a co-chair of the Democratic Party's Red to Blue congressional campaign group.<10> Controversy arose in March 2008 when she announced that she would be unable to campaign against South Florida Republican representatives Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen because of her good friendship with them.<11>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Wasserman_Schultz

she has sold us out and you continue to defend her
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:53 PM
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42. What are these things called "facts" that you have here?
I am unfamiliar with such things. They appear to be a presentation of actual actions and events which support your position. They frighten and confuse me. :sarcasm:
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:56 PM
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44. LOL!
:scared: make them go away!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:11 PM
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58. you agreed and now you are duped. take a look at the aricle.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:28 PM
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61. I am not "duped"
I didn't read the article, I couldn't care less what Debbie does in Florida, I have my own state's agenda to worry about. I was making fun of the fact that facts are often ignored around here, that was the ONLY comment I addressed. Further, I know enough about Debbie from her comments on t.v. for the past few weeks. SHE shows her character better than any editorial, article, or wikipedia entry. I have sat and watched her twist facts about the vote in Florida and just outright LIE. So my mind's pretty much made up about her, whatever she does or doesn't do in her district is irrelevant to me, but she's meddling in our national politics with her lies and that does affect me.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:47 PM
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63. fair enough. but i disagree with you regarding her speaking out.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 04:42 PM
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67. She can speak out all she wants..
this is still America, and Hillary is her candidate. That is her right. That said, I am of the opinion she should build Hillary up because Hillary DOES have a record to be proud of, but it gets drowned out by the gender identity issue. And many women do not feel abandonded by NARAL, and I find it hard to believe all women in Congress do, since some of them are Obama supporters. It's unfair of her to say that, when she's only talking about the half of women who support Hillary.

Another point is her statements about the MI/FL debacle. If she would speak out and advocate for MI/FL admitting everything that was said and done regarding that situation, including the mistakes made, would be one thing, but when she distorts what actually transpired, she loses credibility. She should be making a case for it because she believes it's the right thing to do, despite mistakes that were made. It would garner a lot more sympathy and reasoned debate, which would've fostered a faster, fairer solution. Now as it is, we have to wait until May 31st to probably arrive at the same conclusion that all parties could've sat down and come to on their own without the bitterness and frustration on all sides. I would feel the same way if she were an Obama surrogate, and speaking on his behalf.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:16 PM
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47. .
:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:13 PM
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59. poster just make a fool of himself as you did. come back and look.


........First off, I have not endorsed any of the three incumbents in South Florida, nor will I, and I do not support their re-election campaign. I am supportive of the Democratic candidates who are running against them. I have never said otherwise.

Second, I have a national role as one of three co-chairs of Red to Blue Program. All candidates, from Florida to Alaska, have criteria that have to be met to get on this targeted list. Let me guarantee that if they fulfill those criteria, these three Democratic Candidates will be part of our Red to Blue Program…period, end of story. We have three co-chairs in order to be able to spread the workload among us. It makes much more sense to have someone from outside of one's own region to be able to make the hits necessary.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:10 PM
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57. next time read before you snark--Now you look foolish!!: "I have not endorsed any of the three incum
First off, I have not endorsed any of the three incumbents in South Florida, nor will I, and I do not support their re-election campaign. I am supportive of the Democratic candidates who are running against them. I have never said otherwise.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:08 PM
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56. You LIE: "I have not endorsed any of the three incumbents"


First off, I have not endorsed any of the three incumbents in South Florida, nor will I, and I do not support their re-election campaign. I am supportive of the Democratic candidates who are running against them. I have never said otherwise.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:12 PM
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68. where did i say she endorsed the 3 you point out
read the miami herald she endorsed the republican sheriff candidate
i said she didnt help dems running against her republican friends and refrenced it with the wiki

Controversy arose in March 2008 when she announced that she would be unable to campaign against South Florida Republican representatives Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen because of her good friendship with them

whats not clear here?all 3 are republicans and a popular dem from a nearby district refuses to campaign for her party members in that race

i dont claim she endorsed these 3
but to not support the dems isnt much different from an endorsement
so you are the liar here on every count
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:23 PM
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37. You can measure the political expediency of a person when a powerful position
is dangled in front of them. Unfortunately, she bet on the wrong horse and will be speaking to an empty house chamber at night for years to come.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:27 PM
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38. Schultz is a nut.
And best ignored.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:36 PM
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40. I use to like her, especially after the Terri Schiavo thing
Now I can't stand her.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:53 PM
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41. As a woman I am deeply offended by the inference that a woman should
automatically vote for Hillary.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:02 PM
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45. Exactly. Hell, is this what got Margaret Thatcher into office??? -eom
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:22 PM
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49. No, Margaret Thatcher's husband was low key and humble. Ms. Thatcher never played "the gender card"
She simply beat "the boys" at their own game.

Truly EFFECTIVE LEADERS (even if they hold abhorrent perspectives and values) are NOT duplicitous. Every politician has to change or soften certain positions, but HRC is almost "bi-polar" in her actions during this horrific campaign.

I don't trust her because she is NOT consistent.

We never KNOW for sure which "Hillary Clinton" we will see from day to day. :scared:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 04:27 PM
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66. Learn some history and you might find out why. bad comparison. nt
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:10 PM
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46. It's amazing that your excellent point is totally lost on Schultz?!
Her comment alone was sexist.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:25 PM
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51. all her surrogates now
just sound pathetic trying to convince themselves that she can still win as long as they change the rules that BOTH SIDES AGREED ON now. She was on Larry King last night hosted by someone else
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:29 PM
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62. She refuses to support other Dems running for office in FL because she has Republican friends.
Do we really need to know anything else about this idiot?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:10 AM
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71. That is correct.
she's been an active impediment to a program promoting rising Dem candidates in her state.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:12 AM
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72. Debbie... admit it, it's over.
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