Somebody PLEASE say something - anything - in Dean's favor.

He can't possibly win, and he is doing the MOST harm of any of the candidates. Clark, Kerry and Gerhard look like angels next to Dean's viciousness. Shame on him.

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I've heard some nice things about her. That's certainly a point in Dean's favor.

that he found Jesus...last week.

than marianne's mastication of laura bush? it's just as hateful, wait, it's worse, because you are attacking another dem~!

(my ignore list grows larger by the day...*shaking my head*)

If you look carefully at the first page of this forum, you'll doubtless figure out what it is.

so far

that asking Dean to appeal to EVERYONE when so many people have such mindless opinions against him is wack.

and, believe it or not, this thread is not about Dean at all.

Whatever you say! If it's not about Dean then this thread should be locked for it's misleading subject line.

The sooner this is locked, the sooner my point will have been made. But, for the record, the subject line is anything but misleading. Anyone who is paying the least bit of attention can see what it refers to.

What great commentary, your OP. Dean and Lieberman are just the same!

If you think I didn't know what this thread was about, you're mistaken. I am just believe that if you think something is wrong, you don't engage in it, even to make a point.

That's not the point of my post at all, but at least you've made the initial connection. Good for you!!

is a failing on my part or yours? Oh well.

Democrats concerning their opposition to the war. After Gore dropped out, I felt like Dean was the only one talking that I was willing to listen too.

In the end, it was the Gore endorsement that sealed my current non-support for Dean.

For a while, he was a welcome voice in the wilderness, however.

why was it gore's endorsement that sealed it for you?

for the majority of Democrats concerning their opposition to the war."

Kucinich, Graham voted against the war. That took courage.

Easy.

He is going to win and Joe will retire.

I know they are hiding this poll as best they can on the CNN and Time Web sites but it is being trumpeted at http://www.buzzflash.com and on http://www.pollingreport.com.

It's Bush 51, Dean 46!!!!!!!!

Last CNN poll, after Saddam, Bush 60, Dean 37.

DEAN SURGE of 9 points, Bush loss of 9! This poll of 604 likely voters is 10 months before the election!!!!!!

How can you say he can't win??? Reagan was 30 points behind Carter at this point in 1980 and he thumped him.

Dean is going to beat Bush like a drum.

By the way, Dean was probably ahead of Bush in that same poll! They switched from releasing registered voter numbers (more liberal) to LIKELY VOTERS (more conservative). The Registered Voter poll is typically 4 to 7 points more Democratic so Dean could be tied or very close or even ahead of Bush AND THEY DID NOT RELEASE THOSE #s, just the likelys!!

NEED A BUSHECTOMY?? CALL DR. DEAN!

And that would have been very sound advice.

anti-war position. Before Trippi "hit Dean over the head" and told him
he needed to be jump on the war-protest bandwagon to capture the
activist movement, Dean was all over the map on what his views were and was stuck at 2%.

where are President's Ted Kennedy (80), Dick Gephard (88), and Jerry Brown (92). Trippi worked in all those campaigns.

Unlike other people......

Lieberman, Gephardt and Kerry would rather disregard the Constitution. I don't know how Clark is on this. Read this article and tell me what you think about your angels. How far we have fallen, even since WWII.

<snip>
Howard Dean then said that he was old-fashioned and he didn't think you could judge or punish Osama bin Laden until you had a trial and found him guilty.

Suddenly, politicians and the news industry shouted, What are you talking about innocent until found guilty? How can this man Dean say that bin Laden deserves a trial? They said that this was a perfect illustration of Dean talking without thought. And completely un-American, too.

In 1945, they had the Nuremburg trials for Nazis who had killed tens and tens of millions, and had judges, witnesses, evidence and defense counsels. Just the other week, one of the Democratic candidates, Wesley Clark, testified in the Hague at the trial of Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia.

Yet Joseph Lieberman, who is a peripheral candidate now and thus a nasty little man, said that because he relies on the Constitution, Dean is a weakling who would melt in the face of George Bush.
<snip>

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyork/columnists/nyc-bres0103,0,2114805.column?coll=ny-ny-columnists

I think the fact he's the front runner and putting yet more space between him and the other candidates speaks loudly enough.

Kucinich excepted. Without Dean the primary process would have been : 'I'm like Bush. I support the war. Go troops. I'm more like Bush than Bush is. I support the tax cuts. I like to bomb, too. I would have bombed MORE countries than Bush.

Dean '04...He changed it all.

Yee haw !

He wants Bush out of the White House.

He is running the best Democratic campaign in the history of our nation. Some of his detractors don't understand what it takes to run a decent campaign, and therefore are running their own campaigns into the ground by trying to tear down Dean's instead of building their own up.

The ABC News superdelegate estimate as of Sunday January 4, 2004 10:00 am ET:
Howard Dean 90
John Kerry 59
Dick Gephardt 48
Wesley Clark 24
Joe Lieberman 20
John Edwards 16
Carol Moseley Braun 4
Al Sharpton 3
Dennis Kucinich 2

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote.html

that's one reason i back Dr Dean.

your frigging "angels" can go fly a kite.

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