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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:49 PM
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Does Obama have a loyalty problem...
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:55 PM
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1. ...
I think both he and Hillary are loyal.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:59 PM
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2. I see your HuffPo colum and raise you one
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/19/obama-set-to-achieve-pled_n_102558.html

Obama Set To Reach Delegate Milestone


WASHINGTON — Barack Obama will reach a significant milestone Tuesday as he marches toward the Democratic nomination for president _ a majority of pledged delegates at stake in all the primaries and caucuses.

Obama will still be short of the overall number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination, unless he were to suddenly receive an avalanche of endorsements from the party and elected officials known as superdelegates. But the Illinois senator's campaign is touting the delegate milestone as a big step in defeating his rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

"A clear majority of elected delegates will send an unmistakable message _ the people have spoken, and they are ready for change," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe wrote in a memo to supporters Monday

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:03 AM
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3. BWAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAH Do you have a relevance problem??
Have a snack!!

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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:06 AM
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4. No.
His support is solid. It is in fact growing. Hillary has pretty much lost at this point. It was a good fight, but she just couldn't win. Her and Bill will still have a fine legacy. They just need to suck it up and help us win this election.
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:06 AM
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5. Pffft. What a bunch of horseshit.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:06 AM
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6. Good heavens. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
I wonder how many of these critics could walk ONE DAY in his shoes and not say the wrong word or give the wrong look or be seen actually eating?

If I remember correctly, his staff was given a list of explicit rules to follow. He can't be babysitting with his staff...he has to be able to trust them and depend on them to conduct themselves to a standard. He has tried to keep his campaign on the high road and has certainly set an example.

Some of these people need to get back to hounding Bush and let these candidates finish the job. I suppose the next question they'll ask is if he has hemorrhoids?

Why don't they get a life?
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:14 AM
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7. MARK PENN ... That’s a loyalty problem, to name one.
Enough said.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:14 AM
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8. ...
"Even Obama's first literary agent, Jane Dystel, was unceremoniously dumped after Obama made the leap from Chicago to Washington. Peter Osnos, former publisher of Times Books, called the move "disloyal but not unusual." Oh no, Obama did something "disloyal but not unusual" in the publishing world? And Samantha Power resigned (amid howls and shrieks of outrage from Clinton supporters)...

How many people have been thrown under Hillary's bus?

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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:41 AM
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13. Good point.
Clinton supporters conveniently forget that they were demanding - over and over and over - that Obama cut her loose.

So he did, and now they're criticizing him for it.

Poke out my eyes. Now I've seen everything.

- as
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:57 AM
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17. Oh, but this bus....very busy!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty6krf18huA obama yels at small town voter... I guess they were 'clinging..
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:14 AM
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9. Loyalty? You mean like Fidelity?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:18 AM
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10. You want to see where seven years of loyalty got us?
Look around you.
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:36 AM
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11. Thank you!
I wanted to scream, 'Loyalty problem? Look at how Asshat McCowboy has surrounded himself with idiots who he refuses to fire. That's a f-ing loyalty problem. Heck of a job Brownie ring a bell?'

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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:37 AM
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12. Yeah, he does.
Certain Democrats (I use the term loosely) have no loyalty to the presumptive nominee.

- as
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:53 AM
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14. 2 advisers from Obama - who went off message
and then on the Hillary side ....

Oh, and Patti Solis Doyle (remember her?) is looking for a job with the Obama campaign
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:28 AM
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15. barrel scraping. and what pathetic barrel scraping. She's done.
Hillary lost. it's time for hillary supporters to at least start accepting it.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:45 AM
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16. That's what I love about DU
people don't let you get away with posting useless crap without calling you out on it. :rofl:
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:37 AM
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18. nonsense
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:17 AM
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19. Obama is trying to win an election.
And his motivations for 'disloyalty' to two policy advisors were clear: they were off message and a liability in a very tough campaign. That is the way it works. This is yet another molehill expansion project. There is nothing there of any substance at all. The nothingness of your linked essay is made clear in the fourth paragraph: "Even Obama's first literary agent, Jane Dystel, was unceremoniously dumped after Obama made the leap from Chicago to Washington" - the third example of 'disloyalty'. That ought to have made it clear to the reader that the author was grasping at some very thin straws.
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