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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:47 AM
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Is Rachel Maddow as Progressive as Randi Rhodes?
I was such a big Randi Rhodes fan and was pissed when Air America let her go. I've never listened to Rachel Maddow on the radio, so I don't know how much different she is than Randi. Is she as liberal as Randi (which I like)? Is she more moderate? I would like to know...
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:48 AM
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1. 100% good people you can trust Rachel
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:49 AM
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2. She is pretty liberal but given she is pursuing a teevee job, as in her own show
on MSNBC, she has to be careful not to fully wear it on her sleeve

I like her as well, but her style is very different than Randhi's who I still listen to on Nova M
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:46 AM
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18. I disagree, I think Keith has proven that MSNBC will let you have your niche
Edited on Tue May-20-08 05:46 AM by shadowknows69
As long as you're bringing the greenbacks in. If Keith wasn't shut down after his first 10 special comments I think there's room for Rachel, as is. I'd watch.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:50 AM
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3. As far as I can tell
Plus, she's not nearly as annoying.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:53 AM
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4. bingo
Randi drives me crazy. Rachael is more "professional" imho

Plus she has a PhD and is smart and well informed. Not much slips past her.

I'd LOVE for her to get her own show.

(Should have given her the one they gave David Gregory.)
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:59 AM
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6. Keith O called her the 3rd best person in the world
For getting the best overnight rating that Countdown has ever gotten. That says something good about Rachel AND Keith, I think.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:57 AM
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5. I don't know, but I like her a hell of alot more.
She's different from Randi in that she's not a screamer or a blow hard. She's alot more calm and thoughtful overall. I don't know whether she could be described as more or less liberal, but I have the sense that she would do more thinking and weighing of sides before coming to a position, rather than the knee jerk way I feel Randi probably does it.

JMHO.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:27 AM
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27. Rachel isn't a screamer and yet... she gets her point across arguing with Buchanan et al.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:09 AM
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7. Eh, maybe, I do get tired of her giggling at KO's jokes for what amounts to some M$M face-time...
But it is her face, she can do what she wants with it
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:13 AM
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8. I MISS KENT JONES.... NOW!
I am from way back in the day of morning sedition (may it rest in peace) and LOVED that show!
I used to listen to unfiltered when it was pretty much just Maddow and Winstead.
I was NOT happy when Liz was dumped and felt that Rachel could not carry the show herself.
But I was pleasantly surprised.
Kent was a HUGE HUUUUUUGE (Steph Miller now lol) help and I miss him greatly on the airwaves (as does Rachel, who has let that be well known). Kent was a great balance to Rachel's AMAZING political analysis! (A REAL Doctor of poly sci!!!)

I like what Randy has to say, but omfg my poor ears!!!!!

I have tried to listen to Randy Rhodes for years and I have a hard time doing it.
She's so vitriolic, while I agree with her , sometimes it's her method that puts me off.
Reading what she says, I totally agree with her, but it's how she says it live that gets me sometimes.
I was 5 kinds of pissed off at AAR when all this bullshit went down.
It's like the greens are TRYING to KILL AAR!!!!!
They let Mark Marron go, they killed off the AAR news room, they have lost ALL traces of humor - which honestly i the only way I can handle news some times is with my "morning liberal confession".

AAR seems to eb dying. I'm greatful for nova M and I SWEAR I'll buy a subscription soon... literally I keep forgetting.

I'm also glad that RM is on MSNBC. I'll hate to loose her on the radio, but since AAR changed where they store their daily shows I haven't been able to podcast her...
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:17 AM
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9. You're splitting hairs. They're quite similar in their ideology.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:53 AM
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10. I don't thing there is a huge difference
Both are progressive and strong. I take it your local station must have replaced Randi with Rachel? We still have Randi and Rachel here.

I was stoked when they brought Rachel to our local station some while back. I happen to enjoy Rachel's style better, at least on the radio. TV time is a whole different beast. I recommend giving Rachel a try. Do it on the internet, if you are picketing the time slot.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:03 AM
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11. Rachel's biography...already reflecting the largest audience notation for Countdown
Edited on Tue May-20-08 03:07 AM by ruby slippers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow

and award http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24716290#24716290

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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:11 AM
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12. I don't know if Rachel is as progressive...
but she certainly is not as batshit crazy as Randi Rhodes, that's for sure.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:17 AM
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13. not to mention that she's about 50x smarter
has actual organized thoughts and is educated.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:18 AM
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14. a Rhodes scholar....
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:08 AM
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32. To me she is not as entertaining as Randi
People turn on the radio to be entertained almost as much they turn it on to be informed.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:50 AM
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15. Rachel gives a much more intelligent analysis of topics.
She is really quite brilliant. She never screams into the microphone. I do like Randi too and I still listen to her on XM radio. But if I had to choose, Rachel is by far the better of the two. Randi can get a bit too mean spirited and I feel like that does not get us anywhere.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:54 AM
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16. Rachel is very bright
and a pleasure to listen to and look at.

Randi is a fucking whore (her own words)
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:14 AM
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22. Randi can be pretty vicious.
I don't go out of my way to listen to her. But I catch her every once in a while in the car. Rachel is becoming a rising star at MSNBC and NBC. I was really happy to see her this morning on The Today Show. I really have to admire someone with her educational background also.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:39 AM
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17. I doubt Randi has the activist past Rachel has.
Rachel was an activist for prisoners with AIDS in San Francisco.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:03 AM
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19. Let's put it this way
If Air America ever had a Noam Chomsky interview, you'd want either Thom Hartman or Rachel Maddow to be the interviewer.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:03 AM
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20. Wicked smart and progressive and quick and assertive.
She holds her own against the echo chamber on a regular basis.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:43 AM
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21. ....
Edited on Tue May-20-08 06:48 AM by ccharles000
How Progressive is Randi Rhodes when she calls Hillary a whore. I think Rachel Maddow is wonderful.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:22 AM
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23. Rachel is brilliant, funny, reasoned and even tempered.
She is a PhD and a Rhodes scholar. If you like Randi for her loud rants, then Rachel may not be your cup of tea, but if you enjoy watching a woman provide the mouth breathers on the MSNBC panels with total verbal smack downs, and they don't even understand what just happened to them, then Rachel is your lass. I absolutely love her. :hi:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:30 AM
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24. Rachel is brilliant!! A Fullbright scholar of political science...
I have a doctorate in political science but I most amazed at her depth of knowledge, intelligence and historical references.

You can't go wrong with Rach. Listen to her. She, Thom Hartman and Sam Seder are the only hosts keeping me subscribed to Air America.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:18 AM
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25. she's just as liberal but a lot nicer, IMHO
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:24 AM
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26. She is definitely more moderate
not that that's a bad thing but it explains why she's invited on MSM so often.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:35 AM
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28. All about style..
She's just calmer in making her points. As far as style and everything else goes, Rachel runs circles around all of them. Especially on MSNBC, her points are always right on the money, well thought out, and never in a ranting way. She is respectful while she throws the pundits on the mat, like Joe S., with a smile on her face. I don't know who could not absolutely admire her for her brilliance, principles, and style, except for Bill O. and his Fox family. I suspect she will be offered her own show soon. If MSNBC has half a brain, they will give her that weirdo David Gregory's time slot. :D
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:44 AM
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29. Rachel puts progressive principles into practice, Randi tramples those
principles with every caller she disrespects merely for not being an insider. Thats why I can't listen to her.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:56 AM
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30. No, If Maddow was a progressive, she would have kicked the shit out of Ferraro on Today this morning
Tell me Randi would have politely sat back and let Ferraro spout that crap.
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:05 AM
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31. Rachel is simply the best ...

and most intelligent progressive commentator/journalist I'm aware of. She's always on issue, defining and clarifying progressive issues in face of incessant right-wing bloviators.

I listen to her over the internet. I don't watch TV. Recently I was off internet for a couple weeks, visiting family, and the only "news" was via an always-on TV with CNN and etc. Home again I raced to the PC to stream Rachel. My lord, is she bright and beautiful. O8)
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