Who should Obama replace lost constituencies with?

On the one hand, Obama supporters continue to alienate and insult Clinton supporters and, on the other hand, Obama's nomination will finally remove the last racists from the Democratic Party.

Consider that blacks represent 10% of voters and young people another 10% (according to the US census) or, looked at another way, 20% of voters are liberal (according to Gallup).

On the other hand, 40% of voters (according to Gallup) identify as conservative.

How will Obama win the election? If Democratic racists don't vote for him and if Clinton supporters are rejected by Obama supporters, who should he woo to build a winning coalition? Or, another way of putting it, what should Obama do about those supporters who undermine his chances with their attacks on Clinton and her supporters? How does he convince his most passionate supporters that 75,000 people at a rally or big victories in caucuses have no relevance to his need for 64 million votes to win the General Election?

Got it. I suggest Tasmanians as a replacement for surburban racist republican white male voters who never vote democratic and most certainly won't vote for the black muslim terrrorist running for pretzledent to replace their beloved boosh.

yes, it's a *completely* one sided phenomenon....

Clinton does not need Obama supporters at this point because she has lost the nomination. On the other hand, Obama needs Clinton supporters because he'll be contesting the general election.

If hillary supporters don't see Obama as better choice then McCain then fuck them. If you think that a significant number of hillary supporters won't support Obama, you're delusional.

But, political campaigns understand that turnout is key. Unmotivated voters turn out in smaller numbers than motivated ones. If you think most voters are as involved and interested in politics as people who participate in DU are, then you're delusional.

is not going to happen. Maybe it should, but there is a subset of agent provocateur Clinton "supporters" who exist simply to make sure Obama supporters remain jerks. I am sure there is an equivalent group on the other side. I personally suspect some Repug interference on this part, but in any event, until these attacks are stopped, whoever is orchestrating it, there will be no peace.

And his supporters "alienate and insult" by supporting him. It was supposed to be over by February 5th!

You know, it's funny. I remember Clinton supporters saying that "Obama need to be able to stand up to our attacks. It makes him stronger. He should be thanking us".

And in this revisionist history, somehow WE were the ones going negative early and often. Somehow WE were the ones causing a "mysogynistic holocaust". Somehow WE deprived them of something she and they DESERVED.

Fact: Hillary and her supporters received no worse treatment than any other runner-up for the Democratic nomination. Period.

It's all a big ploy to evoke sympathy in more and more women, which has been their ace in the hole since Hillary's crying schick.

Really -- See this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6015716

Tesha

I know some. By and large, racists aren't cut out cartoon evil. They're mostly people who are misguided and uneducated- I don't mean formal education. There are degrees of racism.

How do you know if the numbers of voters that Obama has "lost" are even significant? Or as significant as the numbers McLame has lost? I heard this morning on NPR that 50% of conservatives may not vote for McLame. And Rasmussed has a new poll showing that Barr pulls in 6% of the vote, Nader 4% and with that scene, Obama wins over McLame by 43-38. Now, of course, things will change. This is all fluid and subject to change.

Most of his supporters are keenly aware that rallies are not indicative of vote totals. I know I am.

Obama will woo Clinton voters. Clinton will either be on the ticket or support him vigorously. Some racists will vote for Obama. Some won't. Most Clinton supporters will support Obama, some won't. The AA vote is much larger this year. The youth vote is larger. Independents still prefer Obama to McLame.

Obama ran a top notch campaign against the formidable Clinton. Why would you think he'd do anything less against the far less formidable McLame. And why did you not factor McLame's problems with his base into your OP?

he has lost some individuals within some demographic groups.

Your rhetoric is broken.

Between the Obama campaign and the DNC screw-ups the ranks of the Independents are over-flowing.

The unity among the party was very, very strong and about
a thousand Democrats were focused on kicking Republican
elephant in November.

Well, except for two women who protested Dr. Dean on
behalf of Hillary Clinton.

So 998 Democrats, and two Clinton supporters. All in all,
I think we'll do okay anyway.

Tesha

Democratic identification is at an all time high.

Also, independents lean democratic +5

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-voters-identify-as-republicans

Thanks for playing.

Thank you for alerting us to this concern.

this is just more alarmist bullshit from those who refuse to admit that their candidate was rejected.

keep it up.

whatever. license to behave badly, right?

Plus I'd like to see a FUCK of a lot more than "Hope and Change" and "I will work with the other side."

One is magical thinking, ant the other is naive.

That's my opinion: you don't have to spend time trying to refute it.

You can hate Obama if you want, but if you don't cast your vote with the intention of keeping McCain out of the White House, you're more of a fan of Hillary than a Democrat. This isn't American Idol. There's a whole lot more at stake. Both Democratic candidates have similar positions. McCain is the polar opposite. This is our last chance to take the country back.

But HOW?!


:rofl:

They fought on the Mexican side...

I think Hillary Clinton is going to be the Veep.

please.


BS post, nothing to see here.

another 4 years of a Republican presidency that they will put aside their doubts and vote for him anyway.

I truly do think that is his "strategy".

of winning in November.

"The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows Democrats leading in states with 200 Electoral Votes while the GOP has the advantage in states with 189. Rasmussen Markets data gives Democrats a 62.2 % chance of winning in November (results are updated on a 24/7 basis by market participants).

Rasmussen Reports believes the race is over and that Barack Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. We will stop tracking the Democratic race in the near future to focus exclusively on the Obama-McCain match."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

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Gallup: Key Clinton voters are shifting to Obama



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Real Clear Politics NATIONAL Average: Obama 50.8/Clinton 41.3

The nomination poll is an average of the latest polls from Gallup, Rasmussen, Quinnipiac, and ABC News/Wash Post

link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

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Real Clear Politics NATIONAL Average: Obama 47.0/McCain 43.6

The general election poll averages the latest polls from Gallup , Rasmussen, Quinnipiac,ABC News/Wash Post,POS/GQR and LA Times/Bloomberg

link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

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There are a number of factors that could set the stage for a big win for Sen. Obama and for the Democratic Party.

Among them:

1. Analyst predict that oil could very well reach $200 per barrel

over the next six months. link:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=armYFIWZS8V0&refer=home

There are many, many factors affecting the massive rise in oil price. It would not be a stretch to assign some of the responsibility to the policies of the Bush Administration.

But regardless whose fault this is, the consequences will reverberate throughout the entire world economy and the incumbent President of the United States and his Party will be held responsible in the eyes of many, many Americans.

There is no doubt that many, many Americans will associate John McCain with the problem. This has the potential to create for John McCain and the Republicans a political disaster this coming November.

2. And all of this aside, Rasmussen which has many times be criticized for having a Republican bias reports trending very favorable to the Democrats and very unfavorable to the Republicans. - link:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

"Rasmussen Markets data gives Democrats a 62.2% chance of winning in November (results are updated on a 24/7 basis by market participants)."

"Underlying this dismal outlook for the GOP is the fact that more and more people are considering themselves to be Democrats. In fact, the Democrats now have the largest partisan advantage over the Republicans since Rasmussen Reports began tracking this data on a monthly basis nearly six years ago. "see also this Rasmussen report on Party identity trending:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

3. And on top of everything else, along with a very low interest level as reflecting in very low primary participation, the Republicans are having a lot of trouble raising money for the Presidential campaigns:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php

4. President Bush Job Approval. Bush Job Approval Falls to Another All-Time Low: http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/pol...

"Sixty-five percent (65%) disapprove of the President’s Performance, up two points from a week ago." "Also in April, as the President’s Approval Rating slipped, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Democrats remained near the highest levels ever recorded by Rasmussen Reports."

5. Democrats Trusted More on All Ten Electoral Issues Tracked by Rasmussen Reports:

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues/trust_on_issues

"American voters now trust the Democrats on all ten key electoral issues tracked regularly by Rasmussen Reports. Last month, the GOP’s had an advantage on two issues.

Not surprisingly, the economy is still seen as the most important issue in this year’s presidential campaign--76% of voters say it is a Very Important issue. The Democrats now have a 14-point advantage over the Republicans on this issue, up from eight-points a month ago. Data from the Rasmussen Consumer Index shows that consumer confidence is currently hovering near record lows. Not only is confidence low, three-out-of-four Americans believe that economic conditions are getting worse.

Government Ethics and Corruption is a Very Important issue for 71% of Likely Voters. The Democrats have a huge advantage on this issue—45% now trust them while just 26% prefer the GOP. That lead has also widened since last month, when the Democrats had only a six-point advantage.

Perhaps the biggest surprise comes from the fact that Democrats are now trusted more when it comes to National Security and the War on Terror, an issue long considered a GOP stronghold. The latest polling, however, shows that 49% of voters now trust the Democrats more on this issue while 42% trust the Republicans more. This shift comes at the same time that confidence in the War on Terror has fallen significantly."

"He's inexperienced" didn't work.

"Plagiarism" didn't work.

"Rev. Wright" didn't work.

"He's black" didn't work.

"We're gonna stay home," isn't working.

Man, it must suck to be you.

A LOT more latte drinkers! And if they won't drink latte, force them to or else who needs 'em? - they are probably not Democrats anyway, and we should toss them all out!

I think we need a plank in the party platform saying we are opposed to the persecution of latte drinkers, too.

:rofl:

Sorry, I couldn't resist. I think the "latte liberal" uproar is silly.

The point you are making is excellent, but you are a little ahead of the times and people are not ready to look at this yet. Whether Obama wins or loses, this will have to be faced. Mentioning it now will reliably earn you a chorus of jeering and dismissive insults and hostility - as you can see.

However, Sen. Byrd will absolve Obama of all past sins so long
as his "rambunctiousness, and misdemeanorin' days is behind 'im."

They will then proceed to sing a duet of "You are my Sunshine".

:rofl: