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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:58 AM
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The GOP Is Using Overblown Sexism Charges Against Hillary To Divide Democrats
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:11 AM by cryingshame
and people reacting to the current stories printed, put on the tv, radio etc. are just feeding into the Republican attempt to drive a wedge into the Democratic party.

It is so obvious. The ONLY hope the GOP might have (besides vote fraud) is finding a wedge issue. To get a subset of Democrats to either vote GOP or stay home on Election Day.

And trying to peel off women from voting for Obama in the GE is their current ploy.

So all the DU'ers posting these stories are really just reacting to the GOP and helping feed this negative energy.

Yes, there was some sexism against Hillary by the Media. No, there wasn't any from the Obama campaign.

Yes, there was some racism against Obama by the Media. I won't bring up the issue of racism by the Hillary camp against Obama because that's not the issue I'm getting at.

What I am trying to highlight is that while the media did display some sexism, the charges are somewhat overblown and comparable to the racism Obama faced. And to claim Obama himself or his campaign engaged in sexism is just wrong.

There probably do exist some feminists who had a lot invested in seeing ANY woman in the WH no matter who that woman was.

Sadly, they are unable to see that their expressions of disappointment and frustration are currently being used by the GOP to portray some rift between Obama, the Democratic nominee, and women.

And Hillary's not conceding and shit-stirring surrogates simply delay the ability of her supporters to accept her loss and move on in a healthy manner.

Please consider the crop of stories now focusing on sexism as largely a part of the GOP effort to create a non-existent wedge between Democrats AND to create a media narrative that will help explain Vote Fraud when the GOP attempts it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:05 AM
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1. Begs the question, who is Ferraro really working for? nt
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sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:10 AM
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2. K&R
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:21 AM
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6. Isn't she is a commentator on Fox "News"? She is paid by them if she appears there. nt
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:21 AM by AlinPA
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:53 PM
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20. It never fails to amaze me how casually Obama supporters.....
....throw hardworking loyal Democrats under the bus.

Hate and anger have a way of poisoning a persons sense of judgment.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:58 PM
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21. Ferraro may be hardworking. But her rhetoric is divisive and hurts Democratic chances in November
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:51 PM
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22. Excuse me, but have you heard her lately, throwing Obama under
Edited on Tue May-20-08 02:52 PM by babylonsister
the bus for no apparent reason, claiming his whole campaign was maligning Clinton because of her gender? Get a grip, go watch an interview like I did this morning, and then tell me about 'hardworking Dems' in regards to Ferraro. She has her own agenda, and that has nothing to do with me. Methinks it's her judgment you should be questioning, not mine. :eyes:

Here, watch the mad woman in action:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=134921&mesg_id=134921
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:13 AM
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3. I support Obama but it is historically important for Hillary to continue
on to the campaign. She's toning down her campaign and giving her followers a chance to decompress. They need a space to mourn.

She must fight to the end and cover every campaign. It's really necessary for the next woman to run for President that she fight through the whole thing and make a great concession speech at the convention. She's laying down the ground work. This must happen. Other losing candidates in past elections went all the way. So should she. In fact, it is more important for us that she keeps her women supporters fired up and ready to go so that they all work really hard for Obama with minimal defections.

I wish people could understand the effect tokenism has had on us. We wouldn't get so wound up over things had there been 10 African Americans and 10 women running for President with these types of people running at ALL levels. We would have had a real farm team and the merits/demerits of each candidate would have been very clear.

It's OK to continue... she's preparing the transition to Obama.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:18 AM
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5. And MOST other candidates in past elections didn't go the whole way. I appreciate
the points you are making about the need for Hillary to continue.

However, a large part of that need was generated BY HILLARY HERSELF for her own selfish agenda.

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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:48 PM
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8. It's time to leave off on her motivations...
For whatever motivations, Hillary has tapped into the desires of many women, especially older women, to be validated and to feel that redress from the past 8 years of neglect will be given. During the past 8 years, there has been a huge amount of neglect of women's issues.

During the Bush administration, women have been the first out the door on the layoffs. They have been marginalized in the workforce. They have been forced into more child care roles as their husbands have had to work longer hours. The prospects for women over 40 are pretty bleak, unless you are in teaching or health care.

Hillary needs to refocus her supporters...help them to understand that going out and volunteering for Obama or, at least, NOW, is a better use of their time. It's not about Hillary any more; it's about her supporters and how we can best welcome them into the fold.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:30 PM
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15. OK, well, that's fair
If she's willing to tone down the anti-Obama, "everyone is sexist" rhetoric then it'll be fine for her to stay in until the convention and retire gracefully.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:14 AM
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4. I was with you up until this:
"Yes, there was some racism against Obama by the Media. I won't bring up the issue of racism by the Hillary camp against Obama because that's not the issue I'm getting at."

I've been saying for a long time that the GOP, through the media, has shaped this campaign. They got exactly what they wanted.

Your inability to look fairly at the situation just invalidates the whole post for me. That is the very blunt and honest truth. For me it just shuts down what might have been a good conversation. It brings it right back to the simplistic "Obama =good, Hillary=bad", and in that framework there is no room for discussion.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:52 PM
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10. The media can't invent statements
The statements were made and they come straight from the Clinton camp. How many times does it have to happen before you admit it's THEM. She can get on the teevee instantaneously to trash John Kerry, but she can't find a camera when she needs to stop the invasion??? Come on, step outside your comfort zone and see them for what they are.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:56 PM
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12. They can't invent statements, true,
but they can and do present them out of context. It happens all the time.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:11 PM
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14. How do you present "shuck and jive"
just a "hip cool black friend", "drug dealer", "kid", out of context? The Clintons said what they said. The worst that came out of the Obama camp was that Hillary is a monster, which isn't sexist at all, but Samantha Powers got fired for it anyway. The cries of sexism have been totally embarrassing to women, and Hillary's supporters will realize it eventually too.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:32 PM
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16. I agree with you that the Clinton campaign has been
a bad one, but the media take this stuff and run with it to garner ratings. It widens the divide.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:44 PM
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17. Better to ignore the racism, gotcha
What widens the divide is focusing on Wright and ignoring Hagee. Or pretending that two idiots yelling "iron my shirts" is the same thing as professional politicians using terms like "shuck and jive". The media lying to garner ratings is what widens the divide. The truth never does.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:23 AM
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7. Why not? Overblown charges of racism worked so well for them.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:51 PM
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9. All's fair in love and politics... my only question is how Dems are getting suckered
into this stuff... again.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:53 PM
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11. Hey, everyone knows that HRC is Clintonian Royalty FIRST and FOREMOST.
This dog won't hunt, i.e., charges of sexism. :eyes:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:57 PM
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13. It happens every primary season.
Sensationalism sells.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:44 PM
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18. Make that Hillary and the Repukes she is helping
are trying to use it as a classic GOP wedge issue. Hillary should be booted from the party for her latest stunt.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:45 PM
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19. Absolutely... perfect meme for the McCain-supporting MSM
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:34 PM
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23. so there wasn't any sexism from O people, but there was racism from hillary's people? i think you're
doing your own dividing right here.
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