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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:20 PM
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A brief little note from the exit polling.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 07:21 PM by Occam Bandage
About one in five whites said race played a role in choosing a candidate Tuesday — on par with results in several other Southern states. Nine in 10 of that group backed Clinton — the highest proportion yet among the 28 states where that question has been asked in exit polls.

Only three in 10 whites who said race was a factor said they would vote for Obama should he oppose McCain in November. Nearly four in 10 said they would back McCain, while the rest said they wouldn't vote.

Among whites who said race was not a factor in picking a candidate Tuesday, half said they would support Obama over McCain.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080520/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_exit_poll


Keep in mind these are only the figures for people willing to look a pollster in the eye and then mark down that yes, they voted on race.

You may now return to explaining how race was not a factor in KY and WV.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:22 PM
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1. Exactly. You can't claim it WASN'T "a factor"...
...two weeks after that "hardworking white Americans" speech. It WAS a factor, and this proves it.

Now we have to figure out what we should DO with those people....
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:24 PM
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2. I certainly wouldn't say it's the only factor at play here, but to claim it isn't (as some still do)
is simply dead wrong, and provably wrong. A fifth to a quarter of the Democratic electorate in Appalachia will reliably say that they aren't going to vote for the black man because he's black. These aren't the states Obama is going to be gunning for in the GE.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:28 PM
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4. It's not pretty. No one wants to call a large group of Dems racist off-hand...
...and yet they THEMSELVES overwhelmingly say that race has a lot to do with it. How can you defend that?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:33 PM
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9. Well, you don't defend that. Rather, you take offense at those who bring it up.
That's the way it goes, at least.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:29 PM
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5. What's more frightening is we all know that number is substantially higher.
There aren't that many people who will proudly admit they are prejudiced.

But it makes you wonder how many people answered "no" to the question of whether race was a factor when in actuality it WAS a huge factor.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:26 PM
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3. I calculated that 16% of all voters voted for Clinton, are white, and said that race was important.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:31 PM
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6. The question I wonder about is how many people lied?
There are plenty of people who are prejudiced who would never admit it to anyone.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:33 PM
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7. Which is a rather disturbing figure, and one that puts her Appalachian wins into context.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:33 PM
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8. but no one mentions the fact the Hillary would not WIN KY in Nov, nor would Obama
:grr:

She would NEED to, but he does not..
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:48 PM
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10. So can we conclude without being ridiculed now, that KY and WV are very racist states?!!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:50 PM
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11. One out of 5 white people admitting it is pretty stunning as it is.
And to anticipate the possible rebuttal from the ignoramus brigade, no, it's not the same thing when black voters say race is a factor.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:01 PM
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12. Stunning indeed. This is why Obama didn't bother campaigning in KY--it is not useful in the GE.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:03 PM
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14. It would have been worse than pointless for him to do it.
Had he expended energy and resources there, he still would have lost. Hell, if he did that and Hillary had dropped out last week he STILL would have lost WV and KY by a wide margin. It would have been a fool's errand.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:09 PM
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18. But he still outspent her by more than 2:1
in Kentucky. He's not getting much bang for his buck in PA, KY, WV, is he?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:11 PM
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19. And this exit poll explains why.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:12 PM
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20. Sure he is. He's forced her to spend all her money. She's in deep debt.
Mission accomplished. :evilgrin:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:02 PM
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13. There are days I wish people forgot the political correctness and called this
what it is

NAKED RACISM
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:04 PM
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15. That's what I'm calling it. nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:05 PM
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16. I'll call it that. Clinton's margin is the result of naked racism.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:05 PM
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17. Race is 2008's "Moral Values" exit poll question
What caca.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:12 PM
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21. Was gender and sexism a factor in these polls?
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