Anyone who calls themselves a Democrat but won't vote for Obama because of race, they are racist

The Democratic party is the party that brought you the Civil Rights Act of the 60's, and if those people won't vote for a person solely based on race, then they are racist, and should get out of the party

For those Democrats who say they will vote for mccain over Obama, not because of race, but because of "issues", they should also considering moving to a different party, since obviously they have no understanding of the issues, If they cannot see the differences between EITHER Democratic candidate and mccain, either they are complete idiots, or are lying when they say they are Democrats

going to vote for McCain anyway. Either way, I won't miss any of them.

I capitalize the D with us, not so much for rethugs. Hey, it's a message board.

and it was too late for me to edit it

The only reason I used upper case characters was for emphasis, but since I left the NOT prefix off, that message is obviously not what I intended

I started this thread, so I hope you realize my position on the subject, and there should be no question who my candidate has been and is

Barrack Obama

if people realize that it is the media that is pushing this division more than anyone else

I personally don't believe it exists among Democrats

McCain v. Clinton GE but McCain in an Obama v. McCain matchup.

Whenever someone tells you they're trying to decide between Clinton or McCain it's a dead giveaway as to their motives.

And your point is well taken. Why would anyone who would vote for Hillary vote for mccain if she isn't the nominee?

The difference between either Democratic candidate verses mccain is so obvious, that those people have to be lying about ever being Hillary supporters

They're either Clinton supporters who happen to be racist or they support Clinton regardless of policy because she's the only white candidate left in the Dem primary.

If for nothing else than the position of the Democratic Candidates on civil rights verses mccain, who not only voted against a day honoring Martin Luther King, but also voted against Head Start

That so called stand for Clinton in WV and kentucky is just that, it is out and out racism that hides behind taking a stand for "the first woman president". Saying they will vote for mccain if hillary is not the nominee really says it loud and clear....they will not vot for an african american. They will vote repug before they vote for an african american...and these same poor excuse for americans and as democrats will not vote for Obama even if she is the VP choice.

because they don't want to see another neoliberal leading the party?

For those who won't vote for him because they believe he is a "neoliberal", then they obviously do not understand the differences between ANY of the DEMOCRATIC candidates verses mccain on the issues:

Iraq War
HealthCare
Medicare
Social Security
Jobs
Environment
GI BILL
etc. etc. etc.

vote for him because of race; I don't think there are many democrats, though.

I think that democrats who don't vote for him have other, more substantial reasons to withhold their vote.

And yes, I think he is a neoliberal. I think THAT'S the change he will be ushering into the party and the nation; not authentic change, but change nonetheless. Not a big change, either; just a small shift.

I don't like it. I'm not going to pretend to like it.

My views on Obama have nothing whatsoever to do with McCain.

If they believe they are better off than they were 8 years ago, if they believe that high energy and food prices are fine

then mccain will win, However, if they believe they are not better off than they were 8 years ago, then NO MATTER WHO the Democratic candidate is we will win

john mccain is a continuation of the bush policy, his voting record attests to that

I know you don't like it, and I don't like a lot about Senator Clinton, but from the beginning of this campaign, I had no question that I would vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is, and I agree with you that most Democrats will also

The issues are very clear, and on the top of the list is the Supreme Court. There is no way that Obama or Clinton would appoint justices like Scalia or Thomas

who is NOW happy with GWB's policies. That's a good campaign theme your talking up. I don't know if it's enough to overcome red voter's visceral antipathy to Democrats or not.

I don't like much about Senator Clinton, either, except that she's better on at least one of my top issues: education.

It really wouldn't have mattered which one of them won the nomination; I wouldn't be jumping for joy either way.

In November? I don't have to decide that now. I'll wait until after the convention, and then review my options.

Now they are tied in my mind. And I'll be happy when either one of them wins the nomination. Of course it will be Obama. And I'm pleased with that. He's shown himself to be very level headed.

will come together like there is no tomorrow.

They call racists, racists.

then they are racist and sexist, and have no place in the Democratic party in my view

It is every bit as bad, IMHO, to call a non-racist a 'racist,' as it is to actually be a racist.

If it is understandable why I will not vote for a racist, it should also be understandable why I won't support someone whose success is based on calling OTHER people racists.

Wrong is wrong.

"Well, gentleman...we have just lost the South for a generation"

This is the year we get it back.

We'll have a better idea of what's going on, and who is going to come back to the fold once we get the primary out of the way. At the moment, it's really hard to tell how much of this is legitimate, and how much of this is tampering by people who have no interest in either of our candidates.

first rec I've doled out in GD:P in many, many moons.