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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:38 PM
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She just lost and she's claiming the score is tied, and anybody that calls her on it is sexist.
Why is she going on with this if it isn't to ruin his chances.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:40 PM
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1. Pay off her debt.
She could care less about Obama. Its always been about her and her powah. Now it is her and her money.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 PM
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5. I agree on the power...
...money is not the Clinton's thing...but she does have to say this kind of @#$# if she wants to keep her donors and SD's on her side.

Bill just has to make a few speeches to recoup whatever they have loaned the campaign.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:45 PM
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9. That's sexist bullshit
I don't see anyone calling on Obama to spend his money foolishly and run up huge debts that outstrip his fundraising abilities.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:56 PM
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14. He's a man. He didn't do that.
:hide:
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:41 PM
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2. Because she wants a Democrat in the WH in 09
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:57 PM
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15. So thats why she is body checking him at every step?
Comeon MJ -- I know you see through this...
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:55 PM
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24. This is warm up for Nov. Obama is just getting a taste...
This will be good for him in November since the Republican onslaught will be merciless, cruel, unfair and much more convincing.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:55 PM
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23. "A Democrat" is correct. And only one apparently.
I remain optimistic she will come to the right conclusion in time.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:16 PM
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25. I don't percieve Obama
as an actual Democrat.

I percieve him to be an Obamacrat --along with the majority of his supporters.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:17 PM
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26. You're sad
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:21 PM
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30. wrong!
I'm Happy!

:bounce:
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:30 PM
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36. Sorry you feel that way.
Best of luck to you.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:19 PM
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28. Please please stop
It's time. It's got to stop now. Please.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:22 PM
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31. No.
On to Denver!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:23 PM
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33. You're not serious
It's got to stop. She lost. There's no benefit to her continuing.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:25 PM
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34. You don't mean that
It's time to go after McCain and get ready to change this country. Nothing good can come of dragging this out any longer.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:22 PM
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46. meant every word
If you really wanted to kick McCain's ass --you would join me.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:42 PM
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3. Wake up, she can still be the nominee. Where was the equivilant outrage when
Kennedy took it to the convention against Carter? He was down much further than Hillary.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 PM
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7. lmao..she ain't taking it to the convention..she's loss
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:46 PM
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11. What happened in 1980
Oh yeah we lost. Nice try
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:55 PM
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13. Yeah, should have picked Kennedy.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:57 PM
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16. Wrong time to be talking about
Uncle Ted.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:28 PM
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17. Best time, he is a great man.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:30 PM
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19. Yeah and we lost that year.
Kennedy was an idiot for doing that and so is Hillary.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:31 PM
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21. There was no Interwebs for Carter/Kennedy
No medium for the poutrage to really get going
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 PM
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4. and he's trying to ruin her chances, too
it's called a primary campaign. It's still going on. Cope.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 PM
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6. Did she cackle when she said it?
At this point isn't she obsolete? Only the die hards believe her crap anymore.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:44 PM
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8. There is NO other reason.
She's vile.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:45 PM
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10. Thank You Senator Clinton
You just stepped over the line yet again!

Everytime you do that Super Delegates endorse!
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:48 PM
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12. Maybe she continues..
to force the issue that she has "earned" the VP slot. Maybe that is all it is about.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:29 PM
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18. In All Fairness
She lost back in March.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:31 PM
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20. With four seconds left, down 30 points, she scored a basket.
She can't fucking do simple math!! I don't think she knows how to add and subtract simple numbers.
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:53 PM
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22. When all is said and done...
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:58 PM by liberalcommontater
Obama will probably be the nominee, he will probably win in Nov and Hillary will ask every single person who voted for her to vote for him. Some of us will look back on this and see that she ran for all she was worth. While there was any chance to pull out a win based on delegates, super delegates, the electoral map, the popular vote, whatever, she made a play for it. Why even run for president if you give up when you still have even a slim chance?

Relax.

I'm a Clinton supporter and I feel fine.

My mantra is Win In November.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:18 PM
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27. I dunno, this thread sounds sexist to me...I'm calling you on it!!!!
:sarcasm:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:20 PM
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29. She just won nearly a quarter million votes
and yes, the popular vote is tied. Get used to it.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:22 PM
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32. The numbers disagree with you!
Even if she wins ALL of the pledge delegates from here on out, she will still be behind in "democratically elected" delegates!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:28 PM
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35. Delegates are meaningless in the GE
Its the popular votes that count, unless you're planning to lose the GE?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:37 PM
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37. I think you need to retake the "electoral college" part of high school government class
It is NOT popular votes that count, but the electoral college votes that count! Some peoples' votes count more than others unfortunately in that measure... Now we can fix that later, but that is what counts.

And that isn't what is being discussed now. Obama now has the democratic vote majority for the party nomination. Deal with it!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:45 PM
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38. Obama is losing the electoral college vote
which, by the way, is based on the popular vote in a state, not on primary delegates or superdelegates.

Its a little more difficult to rig those and the GOP is waaay better at it than Obama.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:14 PM
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41. Then you need to retake the Primary vs. General election class...
We are talking about the Primary election now, NOT the General Election.

Obama and Clinton have NOT yet had any votes cast for them that has to do anything with the electoral college. That is later!

So, how would you count the "electoral college" votes for Puerto Rico in your world. Answer? You wouldn't. Their vote doesn't count in the general election!

So, tell me how whatever it is is "more difficult to rig"?

Actually the voters that Hillary's group wants to disenfranchise to steal the election (the caucus states) have the BEST system of voting to avoid it being "rigged"! NO voting machines at all!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:41 PM
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43. No, we're talking about the General Election
Because that is the election this year that matters most.

Obama supporters are losing credibility by pretending the GE doesn't exist or isn't imporant.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:59 PM
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49. I think it is YOU who are pretending to know what is going to happen in the GE...
People collectively all participate in a process to vote on who they feel is best equipped to run in that GE. That has happened, and most people feel Obama is that person. Whether Obama or Hillary is "better" in the GE is YOUR conjecture at this point. But most people WANT Obama to represent them and are willing to risk putting him in the GE to try and win it. I think most of us are aware of the stakes.

Putting someone in that is a Republican-Lite against our wishes just to "win" (whatever we get from that if this person works with corporations against our wishes) is like surrendering before one starts the race. That doesn't do anything for us!
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:16 PM
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42. Straws meet grasp (almost).
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:10 PM
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40. THIS ISN'T THE GE.
This is the primary, which is a race for DELEGATES.

And the popular vote doesn't count in the GE, either. Ask President Gore.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:06 PM
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39. And anybody who won't vote for
Obama is racist. So I'm told daily on DU.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:00 PM
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45. Wa Wa Wa
Playing the victim again. Why you get yourself a big cross and nail yourself up there. That'll show us all.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:30 PM
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48. I believe the OP was playing victim. So stuff it.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:28 PM
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47. It's embarrasing...
some of my male friends are starting to say things that I find offensive (There's no crying in politics, Of course she wants to change the rules, they get to do the easy push-ups too...etc, etc, ad nauseum), she is setting the women's movement back by insisting that everything isn't "fair", she's being picked on etc. I hate math too, but one thing is for sure, there are no grey areas.....
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