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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:52 PM
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The GE needs to start with DU
If Obama does lock up the pledged delegate count tonight, I implore DU to do the right thing and declare Obama the presumptive nominee, with all the trappings that come with that. Its time to unite around our Nominee and focus on McCain.

Please, lets end the charade IF Obama get the elected delegate majority.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:53 PM
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1. Skinner has already addressed this
you don't get your echo chamber yet.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:54 PM
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yea, lets really burn the party good so that there's no way we win in November
the 2012 Plan is Bullshit
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:01 PM
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11. If having an opponent
in the primary destroys his chance of winning in November, then he's not a very strong candidate.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:04 PM
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17. Having an opponent keep him from focusing on the GE while steady attacking destroys OUR chances in
November. Why can't you see that?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:14 PM
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20. because the logic could've been applied
as back as far as the first primaries.

It just doesn't fly - this is a primary campaign. He hasn't won yet. I understand that's frustrating for you, but that's how it works.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:23 PM
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24. Its like taking to a brick wall with you.
When one candidate can no longer win, then she is officially playing the role of a spoiler for the other side.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:24 PM
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25. Ah, I see the problem
You think Obama has the majority of all the delegates. That's your mistake - he doesn't.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:34 PM
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29. Did you support the DLC forcing an end to the 2004 primary in February?
I know a lot of the Hillary supporters (at least the ones with DLC leanings) were fine with the primary being called then. When Obama gets to 2025, I simply don't see any point in keeping up the pretense any longer.

Reality is that this was over in Wisconsin. But Hillary still had a path then, although an extremely narrow one. Once Obama reaches "The Number" Hillary either supports the nominee, or she hurts the party.

I know you don't want President McLoon.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:04 PM
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16. Are you afraid of a woman?
Me thinks so. Especially one with brass ones.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:05 PM
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18. What does this post even mean?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:30 PM
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34. It means she's insane.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:05 PM
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19. Brass ones!!1!?
That's terribly sexist.

:grr:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:17 PM
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32. Explain it to wolsh.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:53 PM
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2. we are
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6037633
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:54 PM
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3. No, you don't.
Isn't having about 75% of this forum (or more) enough for you?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:56 PM
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4. Nope, democratic underground is based on the principal that we don't eat our own
The cannibalism needs to stop.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:58 PM
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7. Then just sit back and let events unfold
It's eating your own to try and force a presumptive nominee so you don't have to listen to Hillary supporters.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:00 PM
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10. They have unfolded. If Obama locks up the pledged delegates, we have a presumptive nominee
and its time to start acting like it. Hillary should not hold the entire party hostage while McCain runs around on his free pass.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:03 PM
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13. No we don't
when he has the majority of ALL delegates, then we have a presumptive nominee. This "majority of the pledged delegates" is an entirely made up finish line you guys have concocted.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:04 PM
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15. I've been here since 2001 and it's never been as bad as it is now
And I think it's the bullying tactics of some Obama supporters that are making it this way. Declare him the nominee! Hillary must leave the party! Hillary's a traitor! When will DU declare Obama the nominee so that Hillary people will go away!

Some of us are a little frightened by this attempt to squelch dialogue.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:27 PM
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33. Amen. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:02 PM
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12. Then stop engaging in it!
Clinton is one of "our own". Stop trashing her.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:03 PM
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14. She's a disease to the party
She is no longer one of our own, she is one of her own and only cares about herself. that much is obvious.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:14 PM
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21. No, that's hyperpartisan nonsense
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:22 PM
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23. The hell it is.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:25 PM
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26. She's a good democrat
a good liberal - about as liberal as Obama is.

She's popular and half the party supports her. Your view is a fringe one.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:05 PM
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31. Good democrats do not race bait, good democrats do no cite karl Rove
Good democrats do no hurt their party. Clinton is guilty of doing all three.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:40 PM
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37. You So Silly.
:dunce:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:56 PM
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5. Can't lock up the count if she keeps changing the numbers..
2210? What happened to 2025? Oh yeah, she's losing.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:57 PM
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6. lol,you realize this is an internet forum ,right?
Nothing starts or ends here...let alone elections.I think you've elevated the importance of a website beyond reality.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:58 PM
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8. Yes, because if DU says so, it makes it so.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 07:59 PM by MethuenProgressive
:eyes:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:59 PM
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9. *giggles*
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:15 PM
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22. Let them hold to their fantasies until 2025.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:27 PM
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27. STOP...
JUST STOP.

Let this board discuss what people want to!!

I am an OBAMA supporter,but I will DAMNED if we don't allow Hillary supporters say their piece. DU is a DISCUSSION board. Knock it off!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:29 PM
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28. HAMMERTIME!
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:30 PM by Occam Bandage
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:35 PM
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30. uhh,,,funny?
I didn't laugh.

Grow the fuck up.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:32 PM
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35. I did. I thought it was kind of funny.
:silly:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:41 PM
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38. Oh C'mon, That Was TO Funny!
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:41 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
Seriously... Scan the thread and read it again. It's funny and you know it!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:39 PM
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36. So Adorable How You Think The Admins Care About Your Feeble Opinion As If You're Smarter Than They.
They know what they're doing, and they're right. In the meantime go outside and play ball, or manhunt, or kick the can or something. The GE fight is coming soon enough. And no; when it does it won't be because of your feeble and laughably arrogant wee little rant here.
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