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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:23 PM
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SHOCK POLL - 5/21/08 SurveyUSA NC- Obama vs McCain McCain + 8. Clinton vs McCain Clinton + 6
Wow.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=89a1b144-de19-4715-bb6f-97b2e817a23b
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:24 PM
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1. why is it a shocker?
Either of them could beat McCain.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:24 PM
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2. Obama will whoop him.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:25 PM
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3. In North Carolina?
Really?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:27 PM
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8. The Obamites kept telling us that Obama would win North Carolina going away.
I guess not. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

For the record, neither of them will win North Carolina. But the mere thought that the Obamites thought he would win North Carolina was laughable from the beginning.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:25 PM
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4. Clinton v Obama... Obama + a majority of pledged delegates
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:27 PM
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7. (It hasn't been about "math" for 14 weeks.)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:26 PM
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5. lol
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6036372&mesg_id=6036372
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:26 PM
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6. if you believe that...
I have some land in NC to sell you.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:27 PM
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9. Some of the smarter Obamites are beginning to realize how badly they've fucked up.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:27 PM
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10. ITA
Seriously.

Buyer's remorse.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:28 PM
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12. lol
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6036372&mesg_id=6036372
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:28 PM
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11. I trust SUSA with NC because they were so very accurate in the primary.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:29 PM
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13. They picked the winner...
And depending which Mosteller model you want to use...

More accurate than Zogby. (Who got the spread right within a point.)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:30 PM
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14. Yup, Obama always underperforms in polls when the state has a large African American population
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Weary Traveler Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:31 PM
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15. Clinton beats McCain?
Clinton beats "war hero"? Stuf for 200 Alex. Are you serious? Too bad she did not even win the primary we held a few weeks ago. And I pity you for beliving this. And if you want to know how popular Clinton is, just ask Erskine Bowles.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:32 PM
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16. I don't know Survey USA has been pretty lousy lately
They were way off in both Indiana and NC and predicted a much larger win for Hill in PA than she got.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:34 PM
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17. SurveyUSA's final PA poll showed her winning by 6. She won by 9.2
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:36 PM
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18. Shock that this was a "shock". WTF?
Obama will destroy that old lifeless charisma lacking man.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:37 PM
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19. North Carolina?
Really?

He just won the primary there...and he loses by 8 to McCain?

That is WAY outside the MOE.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:42 PM
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20. Perhaps Clinton can beat McSame while Obama Can't. That's not the point.
Wise or not, the democrats have spoken and the nominee is Obama. After November, if we lose, we will have time to analyze why democrats nominated someone who could not win instead of someone who could.

But the question is not who can beat McCain (although it was a good question in the beginning). It is about who has the most votes and delegates. I no longer see that question as an open one.
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avenger64 Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:48 PM
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21. It's not shocking at all - Clinton is well-known to be the stronger ...
... candidate. But for some reason, THE SYSTEM wants Obama. The media has been carrying him on their shoulders for months, while hammering Clinton.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:49 PM
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22. More like a bullshit poll
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:53 PM
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23. This is screwy...
because in the GE map they have Obama and McCain within 2 or 3 points in NC and SC. Now this comes out and has McCain beating Obama by 8%? Their own polls are saying two different things. WTF?
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